yes but how long will QF last on this route once concessions & underwriting of flights ends ?


Then some smaller & cheaper operator will come & fill in.

Who's underwriting QFLink then? What concessions are there?

What's you authenticated source then?:confused:

BPA

There is a bit more to Skytrans' success at Toowoomba than major affiliation. Very poorly marketed, a lack of visibility in the community and by all accounts less than stellar performance.

Not being connected to one of the majors can work Rex is Australia's most profitable passenger airline |ETB Travel News Australia

However I do agree a tie-up with a major is a significant advantage in most markets.

hiwaytohell,

Agree about REX at the moment, however currently their only competition is Qlink, however as more ATRs arrive expansion into places such as Wagga, Dubbo and the like will happen and REX won't be able to compete against the big 2.

Regarding Skytrans performance, given the number of aircraft Jetgo have (including the ones on the way) there is no guarantee their performance will be any better.

Look back a few years when Tiger started. With their fleet of 5-6 aircraft they had trouble covering breakdowns and were always cancelling flights. Even Virgin has been caught short of aircraft and crews during major weather disrupts.

Country folk will only take so many delays/cancellations before they start looking for more reliable service.

just heard rumour that Jetgo are abandoning RPT plan.

Sorry BNEA320 far from the truth.... Another week or so will see company announcements.. Keep tuned

More like, " just made up rumour that Jetgo are abandoning RPT plan".

:rolleyes:

Saw them in Moresby on the 8th and Tokua on the 9th. Looked good.

BNEA320 when does your school holidays end?

wheredidwhogo: The king of the one liners!

great news, but hurry up (we know CASA are incredibly slow & inefficient-they are public servants)

we're on permanent holiday & you're paying for it !!!!!!!

Have they not just announced the route? Gladstone to Sydney the one that's been recently vacated by Qantaslink?

Ah no, just annoucing they are commencing negotiations.

On August 22:
JETGO's new 44 passenger 140LR awaits delivery in Republic Airlines facility in Louisville Kentucky. Expected to leave America at the end of the month the aircraft will be ferried back to Australia by the Company CEO Captain Jason Ryder and Head Of Training Captain Chad Tracy. This ferry flight unlike the others is expected to travel west and visit Alaska, Russia, Japan, Manilla, then Australia, where it will hopefully commence work in airline services.

And if not?

Mmmmmmmmm, I get nervous when sales and marketing doesn't keep up with the ops dept.

That's ops normal for any airline isn't it?

Fuel-Off :ok:

Nulli Secundus. You get nervous about what's written in the media?? You better not read these. You'll be very nervous. http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexfinnis/1...-hmn8?s=mobile . Dig a little deeper muscles. And stop shaking.

Sorry, lost me. How does a post on the Jetgo Facebook page constitute a media headline?
Very odd comment slim pickings.

I'll give you that Nulli Secondus. Didn't realise your grab was from their FB page. Regardless, the sentence that you refer to goes to the issuing of the revised AOC allowing RPT. Your propensity for negativity with all matters Jetgo easily explains your grab on that post. From MY observations they pay their bills, pay their staff, and intend to offer the the paying public another option. My support rests with any company having a go. Knock them as hard as your keyboard will allow. Find fault. Your stand point is gutless unlike the backers of Jetgo. Outside of the positive aspects of what the owners are hoping to achieve I truly hope they break some ground just to prove naysayers like you wrong.

Hang on a sec. What's with the personal attack?

By all means disagree with my view, identify my inaccuracies or refute my substantiations.

I have no problem with your views. Why not consider that an opinion expressed on how something is being handled does not equal a wish for failure or a desire to denigrate a person's character.

Nothing personal about it. I suspect your issue is with factual information.

Bizarre comment slim pickings...... 'dig a little deeper muscles', 'gutless', 'naysayer'.

Provided its not a personal attack, anybody should say what they think should be said. I think that's the idea here.

JetGo is still go!
 

C'mon boys, time out. Agree to disagree and move on. Cheers

I spoke to a solid source on Friday, JetGo is still 'go' and some of the delay on announcing firm routes etc is quite simply due to waiting on contracts to be sines off. For example if any of you have dealt with DTMR etc in relation to government contracts you will understand that the process is long and they announce the successful contractors name around the same time each year.
So in regards to JetGo they are still all systems go and have been very busily engaged with the behind the scenes component of setting up and operating a business. As cannot be denied, they have good aircraft and good financial backing with a bag full of contracts to be announced soon.

Safe flying

How many times have we heard that type of "wishful thinking" statement before !:E

The best "Wishful Thinking" would be that the naysayers and Tall-Poppy-Cutters would STFU and let a company get on with its business.

And Cactus is spot on, there are some serious things happening that the unwashed public doesn't know about yet.

God there's some aggressive people who work at this Jetgo place. Glad I'm not working with them. :rolleyes:

You had better get a good PR person because calling your customers "unwashed" doesn't bode too well. Better hope the press don't grab that or Ascend Charlie may turn into Descend Charlie

I always thought the term 'unwashed' referred to the common people or the public en masse. Nothing derogatory in it unless specifically used in that way which someone with an elitist view might take offence. I'd have thought the common people, indeed en masse, is exactly who Jetgo are hoping to attract to their services.

D:ok:

AC
 

How is anyone on this thread interfering with Jetgo going about it's business? I doubt their "customers or financiers" are here reading this thread and there is no reason why Jetgo need waste any of their time responding if they don't wish to, do you see J*, QF, VB here at all? So, maybe it's you who should STFU:mad:

Btw, are you management? If not htf would know "there are some serious things happening" and if you are, fo, and get on with your job!:ugh:

What's said here will make naught difference to Jetgo's doings.

You hit that right on the head.

But the "people who know better than JetGo management" keep popping up with derogatory comments about how they are doing things wrong.

If an aviation company can go from Startup and straight away be turning over some pretty darn impressive POSITIVE figures, they could be said to be doing the right thing. And no, I am not part of the company, but I wouldn't mind if they adopted me.:ok:

AC
 

Re your last para, maybe so. However lots of companies start out looking really good and fall flat on their face when reality comes knocking.

I'd say doing SYD to BOB (back of beyond)isn't going to be easy, regardless of how well they have planned this. RPT is going to be a different game to closed charter and with the mining boom looking like a balloon at a kids b/day party FIFO supported RPT may end up a bit iffy, imo.

I'd say your confusing those who are pointing out pitfalls as anti JG, I wouldn't agree, though none of us commenting here would have any real idea. But history would indicate it will be a pretty hard row and the odds would be against success. That aside I'm sure most wish them the best, especially coz knocking around in a 30+ seater jet sure beats the pants of doing the same in a TP.

So what's happening with Jetgo RPT services ?


No news for many weeks.


Issues with good ol CASA ?

Approved yesterday SYD-ROM with the 135's. No Gladstone? Hervey bay? No E140's?

They do have an E135KL, which I think is the technically correct name for the E140LR.

BNEA320... In this case we cannot speak more highly of the CASA team from the Sydney Region office that processed our RPT AOC upgrade. Whilst they were extremely thorough, they were fair, knowledgeable and thoroughly professional.

You are correct seneca. We hope to see them start arriving in Australia in December, unfortunately this is a little later than we would have liked, because Honeywell have been slow supplying the necessary boxes for the Australian required ADS-B upgrade.

For those interested in knowing what is involved these days in getting a new high capacity jet RPT AOC = a great team to work with + 2 years and 8 days of hard work!

Thank you to all that have supported us and even to those for the business advice.

so when do you start taking bookings ?


Surely 2 months out is about right time to start ?


& which reservations system are you using ?


Have heard that the big boys (CRS's/GDS's) are extremely expensive.

RMA should go live on Wednesday
There will also be some more announcements this week, but we would like to let the local councils release these.


VeRSE (Vedaleon) (QQ, ZL, FQ) is a Melbourne company set up by Mac Smith after Ansett collapsed. Basically it is the 2014 version of the Ansett Merlin system. Reliable, same time zone, nice people, and a local supplier. It might not have all the bells and whistles of some American systems, but it does not have the associate price tags, plus our data is stored on servers in Melbourne & Sydney... and the bonus is we can/have hired ex Ansett people proficient on the system (recently made redundant by another airline).

You heard correct. But we do not require that sort of volume. The GDS we use allows agents to book our inventory anyway.

JetGo Gladstone/Sydney article
 

A wee article below;

New airline considers Gladstone to Sydney route | Gladstone Observer

This would be a well supported service. Lots of LNG work happening in the region and there is a number of years work that lay ahead. I hope they commence operating, it would be an improvement over some of the current services, and it might help keep some of the other 'not so reputable' operators who operate old an inferior aircraft out of the region :ok:

didn't QF link just drop this recently using A Dash 8-400 ?


Hope Jetgo can make it work, but imagine with only approx. 36 seats cf. 74 ish on QF, that average fares maybe higher than QF.


Still faster I guess. As long as business types who aren't paying their own fares, it could work.

That they did...it'd have to be $300+ each way

Now eyeing ASX listing and codeshare with VA/QF?

Jetgo received their AOC from CASA yesterday for Jet RPT services, using Embraer EMB-135LR aircraft. The airlines first route will be Roma in Queensland direct to Sydney, eliminating the current need for a stop over and change of aircraft in Brisbane. Jetgo is also interested in the Gladstone to Sydney route now that Qantas Link have withdrawn their services. A promotional tour of Roma and Gladstone will be conducted on Friday 10th October 2014, where further announcements are expected.

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