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empire4 6th Dec 2012 18:04

Sunfish, I AGREE with you. I'm merely pointing out what happens. Scenario 1: AME who has been working 20 years installs a wheel, LAME not there to see the job done but certifies for the work anyone because he has formed "an opinion" of the said AME and thew work he carries out. LAME then certifies installation.

Do I agree with this, hell NO. Does it happen everyday, every airline around the world. Hell YES.

Could a competent AME ask me how much the torque is for something over the phone whilst I'm in the office? Yes, and I'm taking the risk doing it. Just like I have said previously, it is about calculated risk. It happens EVERY day, at every level from AME to LAME to Manager to CASA.

QF94 6th Dec 2012 20:37


QF94, the golden rule applies. How are you going to feel when some prick starts self justifying actions that grease the skids under you and your family's livelihood?
That's happening as we speak. If you think that the justification of individuals hasn't already started, then you're one poor misguided individual. This has nothing to do with doing O/T, but grubs hanging out of manager's offices, talking the talk and doing what grubs do in manager's offices.

Sunfish, for someone who refuses to fly QANTAS for the best part of 10 years because of a bad experience all those years ago, bags the hell out of us workers for having no "service standards", and then as a third party outsider nobody, tells me the "golden rule applies", you actually have no place to be giving anybody within QANTAS any form of advice.

I have said it before and say it again, the O/T is not an issue, other than a justification for the unions and some employees to protest a lost cause. Whether you're doing O/T or standing back with your arms folded and saying "No O/T", if you meet the criteria to go, you will go, despite all the rhetoric and justification of others to not do O/T.

Again, the shutting down of QANTAS in October 2011 was the shutting out of unions from QANTAS. Where was the union power then? It vapourised into thin air. Operational requirements override any bleating from anybody.

whatdouknow 6th Dec 2012 21:38

QF94... From what I understand a Union is only as strong as their members. Also some other Unions have officials that are way too close to the slimy managers that run the place. These management members are part of the team that is attacking the mere profession that most of my friends are so professional at their jobs.

Anyway, with the political environment at the moment and the lack of strength in FWA it will always be an uphill battle.

Jethro Gibbs 6th Dec 2012 21:53

Interesting that Qantas wants staff in BNE yet the HR department cant get off there backsides to get back to people who expressed an interest not a shock though this mob are hopeless .

buttmonkey1 6th Dec 2012 23:05

there will be positions a plenty at bnelmo, the demand did not
meet supply for syd vr's and the syd cr mitigation process is
beginning. get those eoi's for transfer to bne lmo in now,
several positions for b1 and b2 are up for grabs.

1me 7th Dec 2012 06:24

So QF94 what is the solution? What would you suggest that we do? Simply capitulate??

Syd eng 7th Dec 2012 07:01

Classic quote from a fellow syd eng last night. "I am going to ring Botany Council and report them for running a circus on site without a permit" so very true

Jethro Gibbs 7th Dec 2012 07:28



So QF94 what is the solution? What would you suggest that we do? Simply
capitulate??
Capitulate we already have you cant take any action 400 gone in MEL 100 at AVV another 260 to come and 200 odd from Sydney all of which barely lasted 1/2 a day the news

Talkwrench 7th Dec 2012 08:29


there will be positions a plenty at bnelmo, the demand did not
meet supply for syd vr's and the syd cr mitigation process is
beginning. get those eoi's for transfer to bne lmo in now,
several positions for b1 and b2 are up for grabs.
A rumour going around is that any redeployments into BNE will be into BNE Base (Heavy) Maintenance.
Any BNE LMO vacancies to be backfilled by current BNE Base Maintenance LAME's.

Any comment?

Short_Circuit 7th Dec 2012 08:37

Aren’t the positions in BNE heavy for AME positions only so if you are a LAME your licenses will not be recognised. :ouch:

Jethro Gibbs 7th Dec 2012 08:47



Aren’t the positions in BNE heavy for AME positions only
Yep 12 months only

boeingsgoing 7th Dec 2012 09:37

Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
 
The external recruitment drive is for ame's. The redundancy mitigation is a different story ie depends who wants to go from BNE BASE or LMO to who gets a job there. Like for like trades licences etc.

soldier of fortune 7th Dec 2012 10:12

To alaea fed sec

If we have an aircraft that sustains damage in an outer line station and requires an AOG team --are we allowed to work OT ?? To recover the aircraft

Arnold E 7th Dec 2012 10:57


Maybe Arnold E, your day has passed.
I'm not dead yet.

ALAEA Fed Sec 7th Dec 2012 11:20


To alaea fed sec

If we have an aircraft that sustains damage in an outer line station and requires an AOG team --are we allowed to work OT ?? To recover the aircraft
Well look at it this way. Qantas have too many Engineers, so much so that 204 of them from Syd are about to be sacked. If they really have too many Engineers they may as well send some of the extras to the outer line station to recover the aircraft. If they are overstaffed they wouldn't even need overtime for this.

AEROMEDIC 7th Dec 2012 22:59

Fed sec,

If AME recruitment for BNE goes ahead, can you check that the LAME/AME ratios will be compliant BEFORE the recruitment is completed?

It's a much harder exercise after the event if history is a guide.

Jethro Gibbs 7th Dec 2012 23:33


If AME
recruitment for BNE goes ahead, can you check that the LAME/AME ratios will be
compliant BEFORE the recruitment is Completed
.



AME recruitment It is already being advertised to general public by Qantas for the past week the labour hire joints are out & Qantas don't care what ALAEA , CASA , say or think about ratios or anything else they will do whatever they want .

boeingsgoing 8th Dec 2012 02:57

Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
 
Yes I agree if Avalon was allowed to run the way it was in the early days then obviously Casa don't care, and therefore why would the company care? Ratio of 15:1 there some shifts back then?


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