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heffy_inc 28th Sep 2011 10:09

Putty Cat is in CBR tonight, anyone know why? Weather diversion (MEL) or some variety of proving flight?

Turbine Overheat 28th Sep 2011 11:28

melbourne closed and then large delays
 
Chaos reigns as commuters race home during wild storms in Melbourne | Herald Sun
I'd suspect a weather diversion

PoppaJo 28th Sep 2011 13:44

Very big storms over Melbourne this arvo/evening.

Most went to CBR and I heard one was going back south to Tassie. One QF 767 went to AVV, SQ was holding for ages, not sure where they ended up.

Surprised the Tiger jet didn't go to AVV as they still have all their stuff there.

Sammetje 1st Oct 2011 09:55

Does anyone has some more information about the current hiring procedures?

How many people do they need, on what term and which base, etc

thanks in advance!

Icarus2001 1st Oct 2011 13:30

There IS only ONE base. Melbourne.

Given that their route structure is about 30% of what it was before the grounding it would be doubtful they will be hiring pilots anytime soon.

airdualbleedfault 2nd Oct 2011 11:04

Too many bad memories at AVV Poppa ;)

Sammetje 2nd Oct 2011 11:19

Icarus,

Can you explain me, for what all the agencies are hiring for Tiger in this case?

74world 3rd Oct 2011 01:44

TT
 
Agencies are recruiting for Tiger SINGAPORE (not OZ) :cool:

DeltaT 3rd Oct 2011 08:44

...FYI for a Singapore Licence conversion 500hrs on type is now required.

Icarus2001 3rd Oct 2011 10:26

Tiger Airways

Slasher 6th Oct 2011 12:07

Who the hell would ever want to work for that ratbag outfit?

Tiger airways crew may sue over unpaid wages.

porch monkey 7th Oct 2011 03:45

Guess they'd be the same kind of people I see lining up to fly with them still, Slash:ugh::ugh:

VBPCGUY 9th Oct 2011 12:09

Was told today that apparently Strategic have been bought out by SQ, and that Tiger will be rebranded Air Australia

Oxidant 9th Oct 2011 20:23


Was told today that apparently Strategic have been bought out by SQ, and that Tiger will be rebranded Air Australia
Now that would put the cat amongst the pigeons...

Icarus2001 10th Oct 2011 10:14


apparently Strategic have been bought out by SQ
Really?
What would SQ actually be buying? What assets do Strategic own? An AOC and some furniture. Isn't everything else leased?


Tiger will be rebranded Air Australia
Yeah that makes sense. Repaint the fleet, new uniforms, new marketing etc but at least they can say we were never grounded, not us, that was Tiger. They are burning cash as it is.

VBPCGUY 10th Oct 2011 21:34

I would think the aircraft leases would also have to be taken over by SQ also, anyway just what I was told the other day make of it what you will:cool:

1a sound asleep 12th Oct 2011 06:18

Tiger trying to be smart asses again and the ACCC jumped on them again


Corrective Notice
On 10 August 2011 Tiger Airways issued ‘An open letter to all Australians from the Tiger Airways team’. This letter included the statement ‘Since we haven’t been flying, our competitors have raised their fares by more than 30%’.

Following an investigation by the Australia Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), Tiger Airways acknowledges that it did not have a proper basis for which to make this statement and as such it may have contravened the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (CCA) by making a false or misleading representation.

Tiger Airways would like to retract this statement and apologises for its conduct.

boocs 12th Oct 2011 12:08

Anyone from CASA able to explain if/when Tiger will be able to expand their services beyond 22 per day? I'm sure some of the displaced QF pax would like another option for travelling during their disruptions.
Anyone... hello...???

b.

boocs 30th Oct 2011 02:48

And further to the above post, will Tiger now be allowed to increase their flights due to the grounding of QF or is CASA still saying "No, no, no... not yet"???
If ever there were a time when more a/c were needed Australia wide..... is now not that time???

b.

1a sound asleep 1st Nov 2011 08:09

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...143740480_n.jp

I have a feeling any hope of Red rat/Jetstar/Qantasia being a huge success have just been knocked on the head

I think SQ has learnt a lot about LCC in the past few years and I think scoot might just be what SQ is looking for

Watch out Alan Joyce. You have targets on you

Sunstar320 1st Nov 2011 10:56

Today is also a very important day for Tiger, in that Tony Davis finished his 7 years at the helm yesterday. Certainly did go out with a bang now didn't he...

Hopefully the company will head into a more positive direction, although the question remains if they can build their image back to what it was pre grounding (which was already ****ty). From observations to date, I don't believe it's possible, not for the next 5 years at least. The Tiger brand is well and truly burnt here, and they are going to need one he'll of a miracle to get things moving again.

I am still completely astounded how SIA let this carrier's management make the decisions they have been making over the past four years. What has been happening behind closed doors has just been astounding (god forbid the day the whole "show cause" reasons ever become exposed :eek:) They can't say they didn't see this coming. :mad:

DrPepz 1st Nov 2011 12:37

Sunstar: SIA took a very handsoff approach to Tiger. Chew Choon Seng, the previous SIA CEO from 2003 to 2010, didn't really care much about his airline. He only aimed to give his shareholders a S$1 dividend per year at least, which based on a share price of S$11 to S$16, is anywhere from 5 to 8%. Which is almost unheard of for any airline.

Under Chew Choon Seng's watch, SIA withdrew from many destinations, including Chicago, Las Vegas, Brussels, Darwin, Cairns, TPE-LAX, ICN-YVR among others. So long as he met his target of being able to give a S$1 dividend, he didn't care much for anything else.

SIA"s marketshare in SIN shrank from 50% to 35% during his term.

He also took a completely handsoff approach with Tiger. With an initial capital injection of $20 million, Tiger was worth about $800 million SGD at its max share price of $1.80. (It listed at $1.50 I think). Today it is 67 cents. As a financial investment, it paid off handsomely in 2010.

And I kid you not, SIA found out about Tiger's grounding from the evening news that Saturday evening.

So Now they have sent an EVP to go and manage it, and are wasting a lot of management time trying to clear up the mess Tony Davis and his team did.

Tony Davis scoots off (OH PUN!) to Europe with $12 million made from his IPO. Nice for him.

Turbine Overheat 1st Nov 2011 20:51

What is an EVP?

Whiskery 1st Nov 2011 21:00

Executive Vice President

otto the grot 1st Nov 2011 21:38

Tigers' recent woes are well and truely history with the travelling public. Reliability is up, planes are full and Davis is gone :D

It seems QANTAS is now the target for anyone who wants to have a go.

1a sound asleep 1st Nov 2011 22:49


Tigers' recent woes are well and truely history with the travelling public. Reliability is up, planes are full
I call bull**** on this.

otto the grot 1st Nov 2011 23:23

throw away line 1a.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and wait for a more well thought out response maybe with some support for your argument.

NIGELINOZ 1st Nov 2011 23:47

Very interesting analysis of the Scoot business case here-
SIA's long-haul low-cost subsidiary strategy to restore growth after a lost decade | CAPA
Cheers
N'oz

porch monkey 4th Nov 2011 03:07

Hey Otto, before you call for figures from others, how about you provide some to support your assertion?

PoppaJo 13th Nov 2011 08:51

Announcement between 8-9pm tomorrow with the last quarters loss and other announcements.

The loss is expected to be quite significant.

Sunstar320 14th Nov 2011 07:39

Press conference in Singapore in 30 mins.

boocs 14th Nov 2011 10:58

When is Tiger allowed to increase their frequencies/flights?? Any word from CASA??

b.

dl_88 15th Nov 2011 00:54

Tiger Airways announces net loss - Channel NewsAsia

Tiger's result that was announced

nobhead 15th Nov 2011 03:32

WHAT A CRAP OUTFIT HOW LONG WILL IT LAST?:cool:

joblogs 15th Nov 2011 05:08

nobhead your name says it all.

Expected a loss. If SIA puts that money into keeping them afloat dont think there going anywhere soon..

nobhead 15th Nov 2011 07:34

Hey jb dont get uptight just asking how long do you think sia will keep putting up the cash?, if it falls over ek need drivers! Dxb is nice this time of year.:{

AussieAviator 15th Nov 2011 18:25

Tiger Airways Australia incurred an operating loss of S$27.2 million for the quarter, with revenue falling to S$8.8 million from S$67.2 million a year earlier.

Wow! That's a large loss for only a QUARTER. Obviousally the grounding hurt alot more than expected, and with the rapid expansion of Air Australia offering full service and similar fares, the public may finish the Auz operation with their feet! I hope not, as Tiger definately kept fares low when they were flying at their peak.

ozbiggles 15th Nov 2011 22:50

Yep
Charging less than a cab fare to the airport or to park your car.
Great business models.
Think I will invest in the car park operator, offer a slab of concrete and make more money than an airline.

porch monkey 16th Nov 2011 03:18

Hey Aussie Aviator, I think there's something wrong with your maths. If Tiger make a loss at their price point, how on earth do you think Air Australia can make a profit by, as you call it, offering full service for similar fares? Especially given Air Australia don't have big brother to prop up the losses? Are you serious?

THRidle 16th Nov 2011 04:26

Air Australia ( or Strategic as it was ) used to be full service, they have now gone low coast.


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