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Old 22nd Feb 2024, 04:29
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So no actual increase of aircraft to Mainline but significant increases to both NAA and NJS…
XLR to be operated on more back of the clock routes so proportionally will require more crew per airframe.

Despite predictions of a doomed future at mainline the hiring of new recruits and promotions/conversions still running at full speed.
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The “new” A319 that network has might be scrapped shortly, they have figured out it’s clapped out and a complete piece of ****.

it’s not going anywhere but the junk yard.
Todays news suggests it’s expanding!
Four additional mid-life A319s have been purchased for Network Aviation and will be based in WA to help meet demand from the resources sector. These additional aircraft are expected to arrive progressively during calendar 2024, taking this fleet to nine.
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75 738s to go over 10 years so an order of 8 XLRs to replace a year’s worth of 738 retirement makes sense, if they’re just ordering a years worth of replacements at a time.
I do applaud your optimism, Dre.
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I do applaud your optimism, Dre.
Much like the optimism shown by the Executive Traveller team:

And with a total of 29 Airbus A220s on order, there’s the possibility that a large number of these jets will be flown by Qantas (rather than QantasLink) on short-range overseas route and in a second configuration”
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I do applaud your optimism, Dre.
especially on the back of delivery delays. They need airframes now
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I do applaud your optimism, Dre.
Optimism based on observations. Recruitment showing no signs of letting up and promotion/conversion training courses at record levels. They’re sending pilots to the four corners of the earth to be trained.

If there is some secret conspiracy to wind down mainline it’s isn’t apparent in those numbers.

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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 04:55
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Maybe you’re right, Dre. But nothing to be too happy about when their end game is still dissolve short haul between the subsids and turn QF into a long haul and medium haul airline only.

Those subsids don’t need more jets. How much more has network and NJS grown in the last five years, and planned to grow looking forward for the next five?

Much more than us.

Didn’t even put Alliance into that equation.
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Originally Posted by dr dre
Optimism based on observations. Recruitment showing no signs of letting up and promotion/conversion training courses at record levels. They’re sending pilots to the four corners of the earth to be trained.

If there is some secret conspiracy to wind down mainline it’s isn’t apparent in those numbers.
They’re not winding it down, they’re simply not expanding it at the rate that it would naturally expand if there were no cheaper options.

The new toy is flying MEL-BNE returns on its first day, a route that NJS has never done, 717s have been flying MEL-SYD all week…
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
They’re not winding it down, they’re simply not expanding it at the rate that it would naturally expand if there were no cheaper options.

The new toy is flying MEL-BNE returns on its first day, a route that NJS has never done, 717s have been flying MEL-SYD all week…
The new toy is doing MEL-BNE to parade it around and say “look, we bought a new aeroplane!”. I have no doubt when the XLR’s arrive they’ll be paraded around too.
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The new toy is doing MEL-BNE to parade it around and say “look, we bought a new aeroplane!”. I have no doubt when the XLR’s arrive they’ll be paraded around too.
No, it’s flying MEL - BNE because at those particular times the load suits a 140 seat aircraft rather than a 170 seat one. It’s been flying around showing off for 2 months now. Like it or not a subsidiary is now flying MEL-SYD and MEL-BNE as regular routes (to be fair to the Pilots it not their fault, from what I’ve heard they’d rather be doing ASP-DRW and CNS-AYQ).

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No, it’s flying MEL - BNE because at those particular times the load suits a 140 seat aircraft rather than a 170 seat one. It’s been flying around showing off for 2 months now. Like it or not a subsidiary is now flying MEL-SYD and MEL-BNE as regular routes (to be fair to the Pilots it not their fault, from what I’ve heard they rather be doing ASP-DRW and CNS-AYQ).
Yeah, looks like it's loaded in as a regular flier for the foreseeable future on the routes in the booking system, so don't think it's a case of just grandstanding a new plane.

In saying that, looks the B737 will take on all the Hobart stuff fairly soon, so its probably much of a muchness.
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 22:51
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Nothing like swapping a MEL-BNE for a MEL-HBA to improve your density!
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Nothing like an overnight in Slobart, talking to the local ladies!
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
No, it’s flying MEL - BNE because at those particular times the load suits a 140 seat aircraft rather than a 170 seat one. It’s been flying around showing off for 2 months now. Like it or not a subsidiary is now flying MEL-SYD and MEL-BNE as regular routes (to be fair to the Pilots it not their fault, from what I’ve heard they’d rather be doing ASP-DRW and CNS-AYQ).
It's a 737-400... remember them? I think they sat 140..
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Originally Posted by dejapoo
It's a 737-400... remember them? I think they sat 140..
Correct.

Operated by Mainline under the SH contract and we got paid the same whether we were strapped to a 140 seat jet or 170 seat jet.

If it’s OK for Mainline to operate the A321 at the same rate as the 737, then it’s equally OK for Mainline to fly the A220 at 737 rates.

Bring it in house Vanessa…if you’re serious about healing some wounds, that will go a long way!

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Old 24th Feb 2024, 05:12
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Originally Posted by Transition Layer
Correct.

Operated by Mainline under the SH contract and we got paid the same whether we were strapped to a 140 seat jet or 170 seat jet.

If it’s OK for Mainline to operate the A321 at the same rate as the 737, then it’s equally OK for Mainline to fly the A220 at 737 rates.

Bring it in house Vanessa…if you’re serious about healing some wounds, that will go a long way!
That ship has sailed.

The best you could hope for is a significant improvement to NJS’s agreement. Maybe then you’ll be willing/able to apply for a secondment and fly the 220 at the bottom of their seniority list.

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Old 24th Feb 2024, 05:28
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
That ship has sailed.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that
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A320 Flyer pour me a large Shandy and I'll need a lay down in the cott if this is true
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A320 Flyer pour me a large Shandy and I'll need a lay down in the cott if this is true
pass me your glass…..
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