QF A321XLR’s
 

35 x A321XLR’s to be announced as coming to Qantas Mainline on Thursday.

Taking the total order to 55 replacing roughly 75 B737’s in the long run.

Crewing numbers will be increased from what the 737 currently is: this is based on extended range flying with overnights chewing up crew numbers.

A319’s (ex network) rumoured to be switched across to Mainline if Network keep up these antics.

Replace high hour 737s with even higher hour bucket of sh*t a319s? Their contempt for the travelling public is limitless. If it’s an industrial tactic (my suspicion) to promise a shiny new jet to another AOC if NAA doesn’t fall in line, they have forgotten about the shiny and new parts that actually make it a threat.

From 75 B737s to 55 A321s and 29 A220s.

Well done Qantas Management for significantly reducing the cost base of the already profitable QF domestic.

E-Jets to pick up the ex Cobham 717 work.

An overall reduction of Australian Pilot terms and conditions. More QantasLINK Jet aircraft then Qantas.

Would anything less than 75 321 aircraft (IE replaced 1 for 1) be considered transfer of business?

Why the **** would NAA crews gives a flying toss at the A319 flying elsewhere. Let’s all go sign the dotted line right away coz we really want to fly the old old rust buckets. These aircraft are absolute pieces of rubbish, which makes sense if they are wanting mainline passengers to fly them.

They already have all other A320 Fam aircraft in the group on higher wages, what’s an extra A319.

So that the pilots with the higher base already deep into overtime can fly the premium passengers in the older aircraft?

The complete absurdity of it certainly gives it authenticity as being a company generated rumour. They are getting desperate if this is what their scare campaigns are starting to look like

Well, that made me laugh

Can’t come soon enough, sick of wedging myself into these f#$kn 737’s on 5 hour flights.

to be fair that sounds exactly like something Qantas IR would say, ‘if you don’t accept our **** offer we will transfer the planes to an airline with far greater costs!’ Only reply to that should be ‘go on then’.

I hope the A321XLR part is true, I just wonder how much back of the clock flying will be needed for 55 aircraft to require more pilots than the current 75x 737s? How much BoC flying does the 737 do now?

Did I miss something here ?

I thought the new CEO ( what ever her name is), said the things would be different. The whole board and management needs to go and fresh faces ( who understand airlines ) bought in.

Exactly! Until that happens there is no change.

VH is just an AJ puppet along with the board.

It’s gunna take some balls to turn it around.

Unfortunately the majority of the public still buy the QF spin.

AJ before the senate committee might just be the difference, however I think the chances of that are about the same as being able to ice skate across a frozen Sydney Harbour from the opera house to Manly!

All the DRW work, all the CNS work, all the BNE work. Do you really think an A220 would be flying MEL-LST or CBR-SYD long term? How often do you do a flight (assuming your 737) with less then 140 pax?

Virgin has become quite comfortable using its Perth -700s across many east coast routes, so QF will be no different.

A220 would do triangle off peak no doubt.

One would expect OOL, CNS, ADL, TSV will all be popular spots for the thing. The question is how far can they push the A220 around the network. Wouldn’t surprise me if 2xA220 flights are cheaper vs one mainline flight. Thats the subsidiary playbook in action.

I was actually referring to 717s flying for Cobham

The “new” A319 that network has might be scrapped shortly, they have figured out it’s clapped out and a complete piece of ****.

it’s not going anywhere but the junk yard.

Why would qantas use a321xlr's on short haul routes syd mel etc would be such a waste they would be ideally used for such as adl sin logically but what do we know

23 current B738s to be fitted with the new winglets - these would be the ones that would fly into next decade, so all up the mainline narrowbody numbers could be 55+23 = 78 around 2030. As the XLR would be doing more back of the clock ops then you would need more pilots per airframe than just pure domestic ops.

Wait and see what is ordered but potentially this could mean a jump in mainline SH crew numbers. They aren’t recruiting 200 pilots per year for nothing.