Network EBA
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From: GAFA
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From: Australia
Voting yes for anything less than Jetstar’s base salaries (available in the latest AFAP magazine emailed recently) would be an embarrassment….
Imagine pulling into Broome looking across at the 737 Captain parked next to you flying the same route (with less passengers on board) knowing they’re on $100k more than you. Time to stand up for your worth.
Imagine pulling into Broome looking across at the 737 Captain parked next to you flying the same route (with less passengers on board) knowing they’re on $100k more than you. Time to stand up for your worth.
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Voting yes for anything less than Jetstar’s base salaries (available in the latest AFAP magazine emailed recently) would be an embarrassment….
Imagine pulling into Broome looking across at the 737 Captain parked next to you flying the same route (with less passengers on board) knowing they’re on $100k more than you. Time to stand up for your worth.
Imagine pulling into Broome looking across at the 737 Captain parked next to you flying the same route (with less passengers on board) knowing they’re on $100k more than you. Time to stand up for your worth.
Joined: Aug 2014
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From: Australia
With Jetstar, Qantas Main line, Virgin Australia, Alliance, Cobham, Atlas, Kalita Air, Singapore, Cathay and Emirates all advertising for Pilots, Network management might be in for a shock next year.
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From: Melbourne, Australia
I’m sure many are looking at Atlas etc along with the Middle East
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From: NSW
There’s 13 x 28 day rosters in a year.
If for 11.5 of those you did 87 hours, you’d go close to hitting your 1000 hour annual limit. For the remaining 6 weeks you could take annual leave for which you would be paid your average hours, which would be 87.
87 x 13 = 1131
1131 x current year 4 hourly rate = $398k. Add allowances, super and training into that, and you’re over $400k.
All of that presupposes that there is additional flying to pick up AND that a pilot is motivated to chase those hours, but it can be done.
If for 11.5 of those you did 87 hours, you’d go close to hitting your 1000 hour annual limit. For the remaining 6 weeks you could take annual leave for which you would be paid your average hours, which would be 87.
87 x 13 = 1131
1131 x current year 4 hourly rate = $398k. Add allowances, super and training into that, and you’re over $400k.
All of that presupposes that there is additional flying to pick up AND that a pilot is motivated to chase those hours, but it can be done.
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From: Australia
$400K would be the extreme end, $300K would be more common.
Either way NAA/QF have been arrogant enough to manipulate the pilot bodies to accept this situation. Now is the time to reverse and correct this.
Either way NAA/QF have been arrogant enough to manipulate the pilot bodies to accept this situation. Now is the time to reverse and correct this.
Joined: Jan 2021
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From: Hotel Quarantine
With the new Jetstar EBA being approved the base pay rate for 320 FOs and CPTs will soon be 160k and 240k and substantially more when allowances are added.
How does this compare to the Network 320 drivers and is the company likely to match it?
How does this compare to the Network 320 drivers and is the company likely to match it?
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From: Brisvegas
In order to retain people long term they need to up the pay substantially, to a point where the lower cost model becomes unsustainable
Total crew costs are between 13-16% of operating costs. Not that significant but management can squeeze so they do. Hard to squeeze fuel sellers and airport fees.
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From: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea Australia
I have seen an end of year pay for $461K in 2018. But that was with additional duties to fill in the remaining days of the life that pilot does not have. Super, meals etc adds approx $50K to however many hours you can chase. But chasing hours≠a life.
I have never met an Australian pilot who didn’t deserve a life at least as good as our American cousins. We just, as a group, have to demand it. Hopefully the industrial laws will change soon so that there can be a future in aviation in this country.
I have never met an Australian pilot who didn’t deserve a life at least as good as our American cousins. We just, as a group, have to demand it. Hopefully the industrial laws will change soon so that there can be a future in aviation in this country.
Joined: Dec 2022
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From: Brisbane
Can anyone confirm that F100 FO's are on $107k AUD?, I see them advertising, if so what other allowances, duty pay etc / bonus do they get? I think the award is more? am I missing something?
Last edited by DC1996; 27th December 2022 at 08:23.
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From: Australia