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Old 29th Sep 2022, 15:38
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Originally Posted by nomilk
Ah right, and what is the reason that all other airlines have the same problems?

The real problem is that this forum became a forum of old men not understanding that they are on the way out and that the world will turn without them and their opinions quite happily.
As I said earlier should have asked their customers, there's one above who may not be an man.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 16:14
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HR dept now totally overrun , escape while you can !
Does that geezer in the tight skirt wear stockings or tights ?
I think a lot of people do actually care and it will impact business .It doesn’t really prove anything, might be good for a laugh to see them walking through some outstation terminals where folks have less enlightened views. Do they fly to Texas? as long as one is not walking with them.
For what its worth I don’t care , tried them once , barely adequate , they seemed to be going through an Essex girl flight attendant stage at the time. Perhaps this “ lets all dress up “ will improve service on board .
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 16:25
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Originally Posted by nomilk
Ah right, and what is the reason that all other airlines have the same problems?

The real problem is that this forum became a forum of old men not understanding that they are on the way out and that the world will turn without them and their opinions quite happily.
Steady on there snowflake, wouldn’t want you to melt.
You know what happens when you assume..

Virgin never was just another airline, they actively worked to be better. Now they are just like the rest and part of that problem is they are focused on things that the diversity and sensitivity manager thinks is important and aren’t focused on customer experience.
When you are as lousy as everyone else there’s no incentive to be loyal.
The few punters who really consider this focus important won’t help their bottom line, unless, of course, they can borrow the fare from mom and dad.

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Old 29th Sep 2022, 16:45
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The cabin crew can dress up like the Village People as far as I'm concerned. As long as they know their job and look professional, I don't care what uniform they have on. I have bigger things to worry about than what poorly paid flight attendants wear.

Old white guy.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Flying Binghi
Go Woke - Go Broke








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Can we have some examples of people going woke, then going broke?
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 18:12
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Originally Posted by anson harris
Can we have some examples of people going woke, then going broke?
Not going broke but the plan backfired spectacularly

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....oing-woke/amp/


This university accused a local business of racism and lost big time.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/09/08/us/oberlin-bakery-lawsuit.amp.html



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Old 29th Sep 2022, 18:56
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Can we have some examples of people going woke, then going broke?
Take alook at Disney and Facebook shares, plus certain main media outfits in the States for starters.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:17
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as the 'none woke' are prone to state ' facts don't care about feelings ' ... the problem here is that those caliming to be none woke rarely have a grasp of the facts and are going by feelings, which have time and again been shown to the 'absurd' and 'not worthy of respect in a democratic society'

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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:19
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Originally Posted by anson harris
Can we have some examples of people going woke, then going broke?

well Brid's eye frozen foods found that removing their association with a website which has become a hang out for transphobes improved sales, ditto the number of current accounts that Halifiax had after the hoo-haa over the fact their latest staff name badges have optional pronouns on them
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 19:33
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Originally Posted by anson harris
Can we have some examples of people going woke, then going broke?
Look up Gillette


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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:04
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Originally Posted by Zeta_Reticuli
your new Id should be "Stockholm Syndrome"
I don't even work for Virgin oz or atlantic. I couldn't care less about what other people are wearing. Why does it bother you?
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:07
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
I don't even work for Virgin oz or atlantic. I couldn't care less about what other people are wearing. Why does it bother you?
I wonder how many male pilots would feel comfortable spending their day in a cockpit with another bloke wearing a skirt, blouse and stockings etc.?
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Confusious
I wonder how many male pilots would feel comfortable spending their day in a cockpit with another bloke wearing a skirt, blouse and stockings etc.?
I have shared the cockpit with a person who has fully transitioned to female. It's really not an issue unless you are the problem.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Confusious
I wonder how many male pilots would feel comfortable spending their day in a cockpit with another bloke wearing a skirt, blouse and stockings etc.?
Why would it make them feel uncomfortable?
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Climb150
I have shared the cockpit with a person who has fully transitioned to female. It's really not an issue unless you are the problem.
Well done.
Originally Posted by Ladloy
Why would it make them feel uncomfortable?
It was a question, not a statement.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 20:39
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It’s disappointing yet somewhat unsurprising to see the outdated views of many of the above posters on this thread. Why on earth does it upset you?
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 21:09
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Originally Posted by GGR155
Shame. I always enjoyed flying Virgin. No more of that nonsense for me.
Indeed. Checking the uniform and inclusivity policy is the first thing I do before booking a ticket. Trumps considerations of price, timings and route every time.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 22:08
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Originally Posted by Climb150
I have shared the cockpit with a person who has fully transitioned to female. It's really not an issue unless you are the problem.

how can you change your sex though? I thought sex and gender were seperate things.
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 22:31
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Forcing an opinion from the minority to the majority is just plain wrong.

VA can kiss my a$& goodbye.

many other airline options like SQ/EK etc etc
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Old 29th Sep 2022, 22:32
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Forcing an opinion from the minority to the majority is just plain wrong.

VA can kiss my a$$ goodbye.

many other airline options like SQ/EK etc etc
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