How much would a strike cost network aviation?
It will result in xx millions of extra wages a year why would Alan ever agree to that?
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Given recent history if NAA pilots threatened PIA that involved work stoppages, not only could the flying be covered by other parts of the group relatively easily (at least in the short term), one might find that Joyce decides to apply to terminate the EA.
A negotiated outcome is almost always the better outcome.
A negotiated outcome is almost always the better outcome.
Profit is irrelevant. Jetstar pulls in 400m (well did) and they didn’t want to even give pilots 5 cents.
It’s like they forecast and plan (over plan might I add) margins in this company but don’t allocate for wage growth. When the good people then go asking for a decent wage, they get told no because our margin aspirations are now not achievable, putting managers targets out of reach hence no bonus for them. They have some crazy 24% margin aspiration at Jetstar. Employees are paying for that might I add. They will say we can’t get to those levels of profitability if we need to pay our employees more than bare minimum. Well that will bite them on the ar$e in the future when people leave for better jobs somewhere else.
Unfortunately pilots will be held by the balls for the next few years but don’t forget those billion dollar profit days will be back, don’t sign your life away forever and ever.
It’s like they forecast and plan (over plan might I add) margins in this company but don’t allocate for wage growth. When the good people then go asking for a decent wage, they get told no because our margin aspirations are now not achievable, putting managers targets out of reach hence no bonus for them. They have some crazy 24% margin aspiration at Jetstar. Employees are paying for that might I add. They will say we can’t get to those levels of profitability if we need to pay our employees more than bare minimum. Well that will bite them on the ar$e in the future when people leave for better jobs somewhere else.
Unfortunately pilots will be held by the balls for the next few years but don’t forget those billion dollar profit days will be back, don’t sign your life away forever and ever.
You guys are all funny, talking about strikes and stuff. Just a reminder that our EBA, which is expired by MORE than the CC eba that was cancelled by AJ, is over due by going on 18 months and RH has not even managed one meeting! All meetings have been cancelled by management. Do not underestimate how low a priority our EBA is, its not even a thing in the office that is considered. They DONT care. Soooo many other disasters to deal with.
IF you want something to happen you need to talk to your union. But it will take a massive shift in pilot mentality to actually have the will to make the demand. Most FO’s are drooling over a command and wouldn’t even write a safety report if they thought it meant compromising THEIR command. It’s been the same forever.
PS, if you’re not in a union you really don’t deserve an opinion…
IF you want something to happen you need to talk to your union. But it will take a massive shift in pilot mentality to actually have the will to make the demand. Most FO’s are drooling over a command and wouldn’t even write a safety report if they thought it meant compromising THEIR command. It’s been the same forever.
PS, if you’re not in a union you really don’t deserve an opinion…
It is curious to me that EBA negotiations are being treated with such a low priority when, within 6-12 months, there will be the highest demand on air travel in history. That’s world wide. You would think management would be rushing to throw a few dollars and a few lifestyle choices our way, and get an agreement squared away before we gain any bargaining power.
It makes me wonder what they know that we don’t, or if they only have one playbook. Are they hoping to use this as a catalyst for lobbying the government to let cheap labour in from overseas or something like that.
It makes me wonder what they know that we don’t, or if they only have one playbook. Are they hoping to use this as a catalyst for lobbying the government to let cheap labour in from overseas or something like that.
Are they hoping to use this as a catalyst for lobbying the government to let cheap labour in from overseas or something like that.
From which country is this flood of foreign labour, qualified pilots with experience, coming?
From which country is this flood of foreign labour, qualified pilots with experience, coming?
Not if airlines keep getting their way and keep screwing T&C down. Australia is quickly becoming a complete shitshow. A couple decades of stagnant wage growth and a fair work commission giving away free kicks to any corporation who asks means Oz is not the lucky country anymore.
Not if airlines keep getting their way and keep screwing T&C down. Australia is quickly becoming a complete shitshow. A couple decades of stagnant wage growth and a fair work commission giving away free kicks to any corporation who asks means Oz is not the lucky country anymore.
