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How much would a strike cost network aviation?

Old 19th Jan 2022, 06:58
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How much would a strike cost network aviation?

With eroding conditions for cabin and flight crew such as roster protections and an eba up for negotionations. How much could a strike cost NAA with charter penalties etc.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 08:06
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I dare say NAA would cross hire Alliance or Skippers to fill the void caused by any strikes. They both have extra capacity, especially the latter having lost some major F100 contracts recently.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 08:09
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They will go to any lengths. Don’t put it past them they would even bring over Jetstar Kiwi drivers on a temp secondment if they needed to (payrise, sunshine, more hours..).
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 08:26
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Don’t put it past them they would even bring over Jetstar Kiwi drivers on a temp secondment if they needed to (payrise, sunshine, more hours..).
Chairman MaoGowan might have something to say about that.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 11:51
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Chairman MaoGowan might have something to say about that.
Not to mention Queen Jacinda of the South - she’d never allow them back home
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 20:34
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I doubt this would happen regardless. People wouldn't want to risk their jobs in this economy- understandingly so.

There are plenty of 250 hr cadets to swoop in and save the day afterall.

Gotta be able to have those top dogs get their bonus' right?
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 06:39
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Out of curiosity, how much roughly would say a NWK 320 FO make for the FY compared to a QF 73 FO after allowances etc (assuming pre covid levels of flying)
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 07:04
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1 View Post
Out of curiosity, how much roughly would say a NWK 320 FO make for the FY compared to a QF 73 FO after allowances etc (assuming pre covid levels of flying)
The flying and lifestyle are completely different. It wouldn't be fair to compare.
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 07:09
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1 View Post
Out of curiosity, how much roughly would say a NWK 320 FO make for the FY compared to a QF 73 FO after allowances etc (assuming pre covid levels of flying)
Pre COVID? Forget the lifestyle, a QF FO would easily exceed double the Network FO, about 230% actually
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 07:28
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Pre COVID? Forget the lifestyle, a QF FO would easily exceed double the Network FO, about 230% actually
Again, not really fair to say. Not all QF 737 FOs were earning $240k +
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 07:35
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Is the current lifestyle written into the Network contracts or are you just saying that based on current flying rosters, because if its not in the contract, its not comparable at all. If its not in the contract one day you might find yourself with less lifestyle rostering than the QF alternative, why, because they can. Unless they have a scope clause mother could just roster you to do the flying that QF pilots can't because of EBA restraints.
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 07:57
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Network Aviation F/O Base - $107k

QF Short Haul F/O Base - $141k

So yes, a significant difference, especially when factoring in overtime and nights away from home. Maybe not so significant depending on how you value time spent at home.
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Originally Posted by Brakerider View Post
Network Aviation F/O Base - $107k

QF Short Haul F/O Base - $141k

So yes, a significant difference, especially when factoring in overtime and nights away from home. Maybe not so significant depending on how you value time spent at home.
Especially factoring in the number of hours included in the base pay before overtime kicks in.
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Old 20th Jan 2022, 14:19
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Originally Posted by 43Inches View Post
Is the current lifestyle written into the Network contracts or are you just saying that based on current flying rosters, because if its not in the contract, its not comparable at all. If its not in the contract one day you might find yourself with less lifestyle rostering than the QF alternative, why, because they can. Unless they have a scope clause mother could just roster you to do the flying that QF pilots can't because of EBA restraints.
Bingo!... Demisters provide a clear view however, so many elect to accept a foggy vision.
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Old 22nd Jan 2022, 15:30
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That's quoting an F100 FO base @ NAA. 320 base is around $120k
Yeah 120k base for the 320 and nothing more because there are no allowances on top of that…
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 10:02
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They have Productivity, don't they?
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 11:50
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In the past Mining companies have paid for charter aircraft to be sitting on standby if a work stoppage was likely by someone. Can't see why that won't happen again.
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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 23:55
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Strike? Crew are scared of Ops and say yes to every request,duty change and extensions. Crew won't even enforce what little protections are current. The change to the JQ EBA should be welcomed when it comes.
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Nice one, Shandy.
For NAA to simply duplicate whatever EBA Jetstar comes out with makes a lot of sense.
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