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Old 3rd Jan 2022, 10:58
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They think Pfizer and Moderna aren’t FDA approved…they say cominarty and spikevax have been approved, but Americans don’t get those (they are identical). I know when I got Pfizer here it was labeled as cominarty (the fda approved version according to ‘them’)
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 00:07
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Because they’re all part of the deep-state conspiracy, and if you go anywhere near them, you’ll be implanted with a 5G tracking device which they’ll use to do, well, something or other.
What really makes me wonder is that there are actually people who really believe that! And they are capable of both breeding and voting.

I don't know which scares me the most!
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 00:37
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Got sent sent this link today. Airline Pilots Fight For Safety
I can say for certainty at least one of those "incidents" was blown out of proportion, was minor, related to pre existing conditions and happened months after that person was vaccinated.

We all know how close a community aviation is so surely we can identify most of these "incidents" and see if that list is accurate or not. We also know how aviation workers love gossip and rumours. Funny I haven't been hearing of all these brain aneurysms, heart attacks, defibrillations, chronic health conditions and deaths that have supposedly plagued the industry in the last few months. No one I know has had long term issues from any jab.

But of course those affected by those "incidents" have been coerced into silence, the "deep state" and "big pharma" will get them if they speak out. It's only these far right religious inspired conspiracy sites which somehow are able to get the truth, which is funny because almost all pilots I know stay clear of such groups generally.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 03:06
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Will be interesting to see how the FAA responds to this

According to the letter signers, which include attorneys and medical doctors, the airline industry is operating in violation of Title 14 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, and related federal rules, which prohibit pilots from flying with non-FDA approved agents in their bodies, such as the Covid-10 vaccines, if those substances put the general public at risk for serious injury or death. The writers distinguish between FDA-approved vaccines and those that are actually being used to reduce the danger of Covid-19.


https://mustreadalaska.com/faa-warne...aa-violations/
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 03:42
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Originally Posted by ThunderstormFactory
They think Pfizer and Moderna aren’t FDA approved…they say cominarty and spikevax have been approved, but Americans don’t get those (they are identical). I know when I got Pfizer here it was labeled as cominarty (the fda approved version according to ‘them’)
Because pfizer is the name of the company that make it. cominarty is its actual product name. Like boeing is the company name and 737 is the product
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 06:04
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I don't get why so many are against Pfizer, after all it's the same drug company that brought us Viagra. They've been looking after pilots interests for years!
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Jock p
Will be interesting to see how the FAA responds to this

According to the letter signers, which include attorneys and medical doctors, the airline industry is operating in violation of Title 14 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, and related federal rules, which prohibit pilots from flying with non-FDA approved agents in their bodies, such as the Covid-10 vaccines, if those substances put the general public at risk for serious injury or death. The writers distinguish between FDA-approved vaccines and those that are actually being used to reduce the danger of Covid-19.


https://mustreadalaska.com/faa-warne...aa-violations/
In the same way as NASA responds to people writing in with their new theories of perpetual motion machines, a quick glance over, an observation that it's a load of poorly thought through gibberish, a form letter reply and stifled giggles through the office.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 09:06
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According to the letter signers, which include attorneys and medical doctors, the airline industry is operating in violation of Title 14 of the Federal Aviation Regulations, and related federal rules, which prohibit pilots from flying with non-FDA approved agents in their bodies, such as the Covid-10 vaccines, if those substances put the general public at risk for serious injury or death. The writers distinguish between FDA-approved vaccines and those that are actually being used to reduce the danger of Covid-19.
First the FAA will ask what is a Covid-10 vaccine, 2nd anyone taking that will probably be grounded as injecting fictitious or imaginary drugs is probably a sign of mental illness. Actually I doubt the FAA will go any further than glance at this rubbish as vaccine safety with regard to aviating was ascertained over a year ago. As with all other BS in this pandemic the evidence is really out there, I mean so many pilots have collapsed and died and planes are obviously falling from the sky in enormous numbers, or is the deep state hiding the burning wrecks as well?

I really want to find this place they hide everything, from 1000s of captured aliens and spaceships, to various ships, MH 370, Elvis and Harold Holt (probably still in the Russian submarine), the shooter on the grassy knoll, the control center for all the false flag activities to stage 911, the stage set for the lunar landings, Justin Biebers talent, Amelia Earhart and her B18, Hitlers ball that hung on the wall, The Grail, the world weather control LASER weapon, the mini/invisible nuclear powerplants that run each mile of maglev track and last of all Trumps tax returns for the last 20 years and so many other things that I have missed....Oh I forgot the 5 star day spa where Bin Laden, Saddam and Ghadaffi have been hanging out since their fake deaths. Oh and I couldn't miss Freddy Valentich who's now on the run from his thirteenth engagement.

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Old 5th Jan 2022, 09:12
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Well the FAA specifically authorises Covid Vaccines for use with applicable stand downs so I don’t really see the argument. https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/pilots-...ne-appropriate
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 21:29
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I am pissed off at the hours I have wasted on CRM and HF crap.
This thread is the greatest example of groupthink I have seen.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 22:01
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In your case, yes, wasted hours. There is no point being awash in data contrary to your preconceived notions and ignoring it all.
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Old 6th Jan 2022, 01:07
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
First the FAA will ask what is a Covid-10 vaccine, 2nd anyone taking that will probably be grounded as injecting fictitious or imaginary drugs is probably a sign of mental illness. Actually I doubt the FAA will go any further than glance at this rubbish as vaccine safety with regard to aviating was ascertained over a year ago. As with all other BS in this pandemic the evidence is really out there, I mean so many pilots have collapsed and died and planes are obviously falling from the sky in enormous numbers, or is the deep state hiding the burning wrecks as well?

I really want to find this place they hide everything, from 1000s of captured aliens and spaceships, to various ships, MH 370, Elvis and Harold Holt (probably still in the Russian submarine), the shooter on the grassy knoll, the control center for all the false flag activities to stage 911, the stage set for the lunar landings, Justin Biebers talent, Amelia Earhart and her B18, Hitlers ball that hung on the wall, The Grail, the world weather control LASER weapon, the mini/invisible nuclear powerplants that run each mile of maglev track and last of all Trumps tax returns for the last 20 years and so many other things that I have missed....Oh I forgot the 5 star day spa where Bin Laden, Saddam and Ghadaffi have been hanging out since their fake deaths. Oh and I couldn't miss Freddy Valentich who's now on the run from his thirteenth engagement.
I just need to point out.. Harold Holt was taken by a Chinese sub.. everyone knows that.
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This is one of my favourite examples of Aussie humour, intended or not.
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Old 6th Jan 2022, 04:32
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I didn't think there were too many knuckle-draggers like Sagan left in the industry. Obviously I was wrong !
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 02:09
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THANKS "Mick'....#26....BEST and 'most sensible' post thus far.....
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p.s. Keep it up Mick....
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 06:16
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THANKS "Mick'....#26....BEST and 'most sensible' post thus far.....
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p.s. Keep it up Mick....
Remember, if Pfizer can raise the dead, it can save the living...
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 07:22
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Blimey Mick, all Pfizer have raised is massive revenue for their shareholders. Their vaccine is a total failure and a dud. Blind Freddie himself can even see that. The vaxed get and spread covid everywhere. Can't you read and interpret the news? Streth, we been shafted right royally. Look at the insane queues for testing, do you reckon they are all unvaxed? I doubt it very much. I would go so far as to say 99.9% have taken the vaccine in good faith. What a total let down. What a joke.
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 08:05
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Blimey Mick, all Pfizer have raised is massive revenue for their shareholders. Their vaccine is a total failure and a dud. Blind Freddie himself can even see that. The vaxed get and spread covid everywhere. Can't you read and interpret the news? Streth, we been shafted right royally. Look at the insane queues for testing, do you reckon they are all unvaxed? I doubt it very much. I would go so far as to say 99.9% have taken the vaccine in good faith. What a total let down. What a joke.
You do know we don't care about spread anymore because everyone is vaxxed? The numbers are high because everyone is out doing what they want and catching it, without the vaccinations the hospitals would be stuffed with patients at 100 times the rate, like what happened in Melbourne last year when you had a a 3-4% chance of dying from covid. Now its less than 1% and dropping, hmm wonder why that is, maybe it's because everyone is vaccinated....

As for making money, when you offer cutting edge technologies en-masse first to the world and only a few can do it, you make billions, Microsoft did it with computing, Ford did it with mass production, Apple did it with stupid people and many other things like Tesla is doing now as well.
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 08:27
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Indeed 43, but we were hyped up so much. Remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve? Then 70% vaxed would give us herd immunity. Remember that line? Then we had to take the jab to protect the old and vulnerable but taking it offers them nothing at all Nada, zip.. Remember that coercion? We would be free to travel again. Blah Blah Blah. Empty promises all of them. Then we lost so many health workers who refused the jab that we have to shorten the isolation for the overworked sods who remain. How is a positive covid but vaxed worker better than a negative unvaxed worker?

We been led up the garden path for a product that promised so much but delivers very little. You can excuse it all you like. Some of us remember yesterday's hype though. You might say it has saved us from dying but many would argue. In the healthy population with a BMI less than that of a sloth, the survival rate is more like 99.9%

You can wax lyrical all you like but the old axiom, "you can't polish a turd" still springs to mind.
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Old 7th Jan 2022, 08:47
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I remember a crying polli saying no kids will live in poverty by xxx as well and many other statements from govs about many things. Inevitably the pollis are all sales reps selling ideas and notions to the masses, small bits of what they say get done, other stuff is just fairy land. If you get hung up on everything they say and don't look at whats actually happening then you get lost in the words. A virus does not play games, make promises or have rules, it does what it does, we react to it, pollis will say things to make it look like they are on top of it and we have answers. Saying that its some made up way of controlling us is just thinking like swimming through thick mud, rather look at what is happening globally and just relax and understand nature is just kicking us in the balls for a few years.

In the healthy population with a BMI less than that of a sloth, the survival rate is more like 99.9%
As has been said before a society is judged by how it looks after the sick and old, all you are saying is that you would fit in better with a horde of mongols in the middle ages than in modern society. A certain party in the 1930s also believed that it was better to just let the aged, disabled, sick and inferior just die as they were a burden to the rest of them.
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