Project Winton- Airbus
Originally Posted by SHVC
That was not my point. My point is old, set in their way 73 drivers will find it hard to adjust. Not all 73 skips have flown an Airbus.
Jeez, every pilot at some point has never flown an Airbus. Are we perhaps making too much of a big deal about it?
Originally Posted by theheadmaster
You do realise Qantas mainline have been flying Airbus A330s since around 2002, and before that flew the ex-Australian Airlines A300? Boeing to Airbus and vice-versa is not a new thing at all for mainline.
Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat
Would this be the same 330s that Qantas had to retrofit the exterior light switches to work in reverse because Qantas pilots couldn't cope? :P
Originally Posted by SHVC
That was not my point. My point is old, set in their way 73 drivers will find it hard to adjust. Not all 73 skips have flown an Airbus.
Here’s a prediction, as the latest 738s are younger than the youngest 330s the 737 will be around longer than the 330, which will probably be gone by decade’s end.
Originally Posted by SHVC
it will be interesting seeing how the 10+ yr 73 skippers adjust to Airbus philosophy.
Originally Posted by SHVC
That was not my point. My point is old, set in their way 73 drivers will find it hard to adjust. Not all 73 skips have flown an Airbus.
Is it true that Qantas doesn’t read the FMA out loud? That’s very against Airbus philosophy.
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Originally Posted by BuzzBox
This former Boeing captain converted to Airbus after almost 20 years on various Boeing types. The mindset is somewhat different, but it's certainly not hard to adjust. It's just another bloody aeroplane!
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Is it true that Qantas doesn’t read the FMA out loud? That’s very against Airbus philosophy.[/QUOTE] Morno
Morno….I don’t know where you get your information or you just make SH…t up
Qantas has always read out the FMA on their Airbus fleets….
Morno….I don’t know where you get your information or you just make SH…t up
Qantas has always read out the FMA on their Airbus fleets….
Originally Posted by morno
Is it true that Qantas doesn’t read the FMA out loud? That’s very against Airbus philosophy.
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The C-Series/A220 is great for the customer. Big windows, quiet, and the widest middle seat in the sky - even a window in the lavs.
Going to be a good move to have that one in the fleet.
Going to be a good move to have that one in the fleet.
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How about we return to the topic of this thread…..
Project ‘Winton’ QF Domestic B737 replacement
lets discuss;
Will the current establishment of QF Shorthaul crews fly them?
QF SHEBA, what changes will be sought?
There’s a lot of hulls potentially to be ordered, what’s it going to take to keep the majority of them in mainline? Or has AJ diluted the group so far and wide that it’s going to be dog eat dog and a whole new low in terms and conditions?
Your thoughts everyone?
Project ‘Winton’ QF Domestic B737 replacement
lets discuss;
Will the current establishment of QF Shorthaul crews fly them?
QF SHEBA, what changes will be sought?
There’s a lot of hulls potentially to be ordered, what’s it going to take to keep the majority of them in mainline? Or has AJ diluted the group so far and wide that it’s going to be dog eat dog and a whole new low in terms and conditions?
Your thoughts everyone?
Originally Posted by Rantallion
How about we return to the topic of this thread…..
Project ‘Winton’ QF Domestic B737 replacement
lets discuss;
Will the current establishment of QF Shorthaul crews fly them?
QF SHEBA, what changes will be sought?
There’s a lot of hulls potentially to be ordered, what’s it going to take to keep the majority of them in mainline? Or has AJ diluted the group so far and wide that it’s going to be dog eat dog and a whole new low in terms and conditions?
Your thoughts everyone?
Project ‘Winton’ QF Domestic B737 replacement
lets discuss;
Will the current establishment of QF Shorthaul crews fly them?
QF SHEBA, what changes will be sought?
There’s a lot of hulls potentially to be ordered, what’s it going to take to keep the majority of them in mainline? Or has AJ diluted the group so far and wide that it’s going to be dog eat dog and a whole new low in terms and conditions?
Your thoughts everyone?
There’s no real indication why the 321XLR wouldn’t be flown by the pilots currently flying the aircraft they’re replacing. The routes currently flown by some 738s but also some 330s regionally.
Yes naturally it would fall to a SH arrangement, even if some say the replacement of the 330s means it should be flown under LH conditions.
Will efficiencies be sought to the SH in the next negotiations to confirm this? Probably, as what were wanted with the LH EBAs before the 787 and A350 were ordered.
Any subsequent contract probably wouldn’t be too bad, lots of worrying about the 787 and 350 conditions but in reality they both turned out to be pretty good deals.
No one seems to think the A220 will be flown by anyone but the outfit that currently flies the type they’re replacing - the 717.
Last edited by dr dre; 17th Dec 2021 at 05:24.
It’s a true multi crew aircraft. it will be interesting seeing how the 10+ yr 73 skippers adjust to Airbus philosophy. Or QF will try and Boeingise it and change everything to re-invent the wheel.
That was not my point. My point is old, set in their way 73 drivers will find it hard to adjust. Not all 73 skips have flown an Airbus.
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Originally Posted by morno
Is it true that Qantas doesn’t read the FMA out loud? That’s very against Airbus philosophy.
Apart from the Taxi/landing light switches being backward QF Airbus ops are otherwise all but identical to Airbus SOPs.
The introduction of EFIS back in the late 1980s was a problem for older pilots who were used to stream driven gauges. Together with fly by wire, it proved too much for a few who couldn't hack the transition.
These days, everyone is used to glass cockpits so it's basically ECAM handling and the flight control systems together with the Airbus philosophy that needs to be learnt. The bus has lots of built in protections if you get things wrong and I would say that going from Airbus to Boeing and losing much of the safety net would be quite challenging as well.
These days, everyone is used to glass cockpits so it's basically ECAM handling and the flight control systems together with the Airbus philosophy that needs to be learnt. The bus has lots of built in protections if you get things wrong and I would say that going from Airbus to Boeing and losing much of the safety net would be quite challenging as well.
Originally Posted by krismiler
The bus has lots of built in protections if you get things wrong and I would say that going from Airbus to Boeing and losing much of the safety net would be quite challenging as well.
