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Old 9th Aug 2021, 16:21
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Originally Posted by SierraZuluGolf
We are so soft. Sorry everyone.
Are they? Or are you just unrealistic?
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 19:13
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Unrealistic. Nope.

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Old 9th Aug 2021, 21:14
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The majority of your fellow Virgin pilots disagree. You will have to come to terms with that.
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 22:28
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Nope I donít.
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Old 9th Aug 2021, 22:55
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I think you might have to as the only choice you have is either operate under the new EBA or resign.
That choice is yours!
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 00:14
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I think you might have to as the only choice you have is either operate under the new EBA or resign.
That choice is yours!
Not exactly,

I am an Army of One (merged)

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Old 10th Aug 2021, 00:42
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Exactly Gordon. Exactly. What an own goal we have kicked. We have negotiated a pay cut. While having already negotiated a pay cut. Brilliant!
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 00:52
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If I am wrong so be it. I wish the best to us all. Letís see what happens in 2 years time. Cheers.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 01:30
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Originally Posted by SierraZuluGolf
Exactly Gordon. Exactly. What an own goal we have kicked. We have negotiated a pay cut. While having already negotiated a pay cut. Brilliant!
Do you expect to be paid 70 hours worth a roster whilst this month probably flying 20 hours if you are lucky?

Have you expected full pay the past 18 months with a company in administration and hardly any flying?
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 01:47
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No I donít. Never said that. Never expected it.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 01:47
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Originally Posted by murder most fowl
Do you expect to be paid 70 hours worth a roster whilst this month probably flying 20 hours if you are lucky?

Have you expected full pay the past 18 months with a company in administration and hardly any flying?
How long do you think we are going to be flying 20 hours? It seems a bit obtuse to let a horses arse agreement through to cover the pandemic. Now youíve given it up, it will take decades to get back to where we were.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 01:55
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So if we'll be back up and running at 75 plus hours a roster real soon, hasn't it been shown you'll earn the same money as previous?

Doesn't matter who owns VA, under time was always going to be an issue as were drafts.

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Old 10th Aug 2021, 01:59
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 02:11
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Convenient they announce today a further reduction in flying hours, the day after the crap EBA is announced.. seriously.
Would the vote have been the same if this was announced on Friday ??
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 03:07
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Originally Posted by Tubman601
Convenient they announce today a further reduction in flying hours, the day after the crap EBA is announced.. seriously.
Would the vote have been the same if this was announced on Friday ??
Very good question. It certainly would have affected the vote. Whether it would have been enough to change the outcome, who knows. Too late now. Definitely would have been the reason for the delayed communication though.

I am not sure why everyone acts surprised? VA and now Bain have always been like this. If you are not happy (and I am not) then as posted, be an army of 1 and make it known.

Email the Chief Pilot or Senior Base and let them know. CC in the CEO and COO. We achieve nothing on here.

In saying that, I voted yes. I didnt like it one bit, but was trying to be pragmatic about the whole situation. Will I regret it? Maybe.

I hope it doesnt affect the camaraderie in the flight deck. In some cases, that is all we have.

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Old 10th Aug 2021, 10:13
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Reduction in flying hours? Lol your living on cloud nine if you think the next 4 months will be nothing but standown, No one is flying and lockdowns will be more common than a beer at the local bowls club. The Scomo induced recession is about to begin, we are 5-6 months behind the rest of the OECD with vaccinations, and while everyone else starts to open up we sit paralysed. Itís actually comical how pathetic we have done. Enjoy stagnation, it might start to improve after Christmas at best.
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Old 10th Aug 2021, 10:23
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Open your eyes sheeple!! The NSW outbreak was orchestrated by Bain to make sure they got their way with the VA pilots!!! Follow the money. It was cargo pilots based in USA, where Bain is based, that infected the limo driver. It worked perfectly in Bainís favour and now they get to stand everyone down after they got what they wanted!!!!!
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 06:14
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Originally Posted by Angle of Attack
Reduction in flying hours? Lol your living on cloud nine if you think the next 4 months will be nothing but standown, No one is flying and lockdowns will be more common than a beer at the local bowls club. The Scomo induced recession is about to begin, we are 5-6 months behind the rest of the OECD with vaccinations, and while everyone else starts to open up we sit paralysed. Itís actually comical how pathetic we have done. Enjoy stagnation, it might start to improve after Christmas at best.
And these idiots in Government have plucked a vaccination figure of 70 or 80% out of their asses. What about Ďdeltaí? What about the next variant? Everyone gets the shot and then 6 months later it doesnít work on the new variant and we are back to square one - lockdowns. This crap doesnít have an end date, yet. The protests will grow louder as more and more people lose their livelihoods, their futures, and their material things. Eventually the Government and all of the melodramatic scaredy cats will have to realise that it kills less than 1% of those it infects, just like flu season. And 80% of the deaths are people over 80, morbidly obese or have other underlying factors.

We are going to start 2022 with this same BS going on. FFS, give people until Dec 31 to get the shot if they want it, after that life returns to effing normal. You catch it, so what. Stay in bed 2 weeks and act responsibly. You choose to roll the dice and not have the shot, well stiff shit. You are responsible for yourself.

Destroying economies is not the answer. Not one politician has lost their job, been stood down, has lost their primary income or lost their home throughout this. Why is that? These slimeballs need to feel the pain that the rest of the country is going through. I hope the protests get bigger because there is strength in numbers. Only the general population has the numbers to end this lunacy and shake these assholes out of their ivory towers. Enough is enough.









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Old 11th Aug 2021, 09:07
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And these idiots in Government have plucked a vaccination figure of 70 or 80% out of their asses. What about Ďdeltaí? What about the next variant? Everyone gets the shot and then 6 months later it doesnít work on the new variant and we are back to square one - lockdowns. This crap doesnít have an end date, yet. The protests will grow louder as more and more people lose their livelihoods, their futures, and their material things. Eventually the Government and all of the melodramatic scaredy cats will have to realise that it kills less than 1% of those it infects, just like flu season. And 80% of the deaths are people over 80, morbidly obese or have other underlying factors.

We are going to start 2022 with this same BS going on. FFS, give people until Dec 31 to get the shot if they want it, after that life returns to effing normal. You catch it, so what. Stay in bed 2 weeks and act responsibly. You choose to roll the dice and not have the shot, well stiff shit. You are responsible for yourself.

Destroying economies is not the answer. Not one politician has lost their job, been stood down, has lost their primary income or lost their home throughout this. Why is that? These slimeballs need to feel the pain that the rest of the country is going through. I hope the protests get bigger because there is strength in numbers. Only the general population has the numbers to end this lunacy and shake these assholes out of their ivory towers. Enough is enough.
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Old 11th Aug 2021, 23:41
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Originally Posted by turbantime
Open your eyes sheeple!! The NSW outbreak was orchestrated by Bain to make sure they got their way with the VA pilots!!! Follow the money. It was cargo pilots based in USA, where Bain is based, that infected the limo driver. It worked perfectly in Bainís favour and now they get to stand everyone down after they got what they wanted!!!!!

errr ummmm, 🤔
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