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Old 24th Jun 2022, 21:36
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Rex signing a deal with multiple travel agency’s. A 10 yr deal with flight centre ensuring Rex will be flight centers partner of choice. Surely this should prop up the 73 loads, Rex seem confident it will anyway. .

“The agreements are expected to result in a more than doubling of Rex’s annual domestic jet revenues in FY2023 compared to its current annualized domestic jet revenues with no increase in fleet size. Revenue on its regional revenue is also expected to be improved”.
This deal along with some decent customer service may just be the turning point. If passengers are treated properly & the network is good the punters may just vote with their feet.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 00:46
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“The agreements are expected to result in a more than doubling of Rex’s annual domestic jet revenues in FY2023 compared to its current annualized domestic jet revenues with no increase in fleet size. Revenue on its regional revenue is also expected to be improved”.
Doubling of revenue with no increase in fleet size - to me that would suggest just how much hurt the jet operation was facing over the last 12-18 months.

Does this also seem to suggest that Rex’s 737 fleet is unlikely to grow significantly now?
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 01:07
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Finally they are getting their ducks in a row. QF has infuriated enough people to fill every Rex jet. If Rex can deliver an actual premium product they can secure real market share. Earlier in this thread I scoffed at Rex's chances, but I wasn’t expecting such wholesale incompetence from Qantas.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 01:48
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To right punters could very well be handed to to them on a platter.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 02:27
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Does anyone have any idea on the stats of people who would be booking domestic flights with a travel agent? As a percentage of total bookings, it’s hard thinking that the number would be too high.

The other issue with the travel agents using Rex is their quite limited schedule and network.

And whilst QFs current treatment of customers really is missing the mark - it’s unlikely that this will be the case over the medium term. Qantas has significant brand loyalty (ask VA and JB) and frequent flyer program not matched by any of its competitors.

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Old 25th Jun 2022, 04:29
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Doubling the revenue? What from 30 to 60 bodies. What about the other 120?

I wouldn’t get too excited.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 04:49
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Finally they are getting their ducks in a row. QF has infuriated enough people to fill every Rex jet. If Rex can deliver an actual premium product they can secure real market share. Earlier in this thread I scoffed at Rex's chances, but I wasn’t expecting such wholesale incompetence from Qantas.
Joyce has achieved his wet dream.. Qantas is now a ULCC that charges very high fares. If Rex can cash in on this and deliver a good product., they should be on a winner.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 05:07
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Does anyone have any idea on the stats of people who would be booking domestic flights with a travel agent? As a percentage of total bookings, it’s hard thinking that the number would be too high.
Pre-pandemic, around 10 percent of domestic bookings went through agents. Apparently that increased during the pandemic but the data underpinning that is scrappy, based on reported intentions rather than actual booking numbers. It wouldn't be a significant percentage.

Rex are not going to double pax bookings off the back of the agency deal - that's pie in sky. Notably the announcement did nothing to their share price.

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Old 25th Jun 2022, 06:34
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Originally Posted by MickG0105
Pre-pandemic, around 10 percent of domestic bookings went through agents. Apparently that increased during the pandemic but the data underpinning that is scrappy, based on reported intentions rather than actual booking numbers. It wouldn't be a significant percentage.

Rex are not going to double pax bookings off the back of the agency deal - that's pie in sky. Notably the announcement did nothing to their share price.
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Well maybe they will manage to double their bookings. As someone mentioned that will still leave 66% of the plane empty. I thought that Flight Centre did a lot of bookings pre covid. I think people would be more likely to book overseas trips with them and may get sold Rex connections as a result. Still no Rex advertising though.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 08:01
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They don’t have to advertise, QF is getting enough bad PR and ruining themself that ppl just search other carriers and Rex would pop up.
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You know they are a business with no idea, when after 3pm today, all Jets bar one are parked and finished for the day. The one day you can charge whatever the hell you want for a seat and people will buy. Passengers would sell one's soul to get a seat this weekend. Gold Coast and Cairns no seats until mid next week on some routes.

Heck you could make a business this weekend just off picking up cancelled pax from the others!
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 10:01
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What were the loads today Poppa?
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 10:44
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All players full today including Rex. I heard some flying via NZ to get to a domestic location this weekend, indicates how tight seats are this school holidays kickoff.
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Australopithecus
Well maybe they will manage to double their bookings. As someone mentioned that will still leave 66% of the plane empty. I thought that Flight Centre did a lot of bookings pre covid. I think people would be more likely to book overseas trips with them and may get sold Rex connections as a result. Still no Rex advertising though.
Flight Centre is also Corporate Traveller which does a lot of business booking under contract
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Old 25th Jun 2022, 12:48
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Flight Centre is also Corporate Traveller which does a lot of business booking under contract
Rex runs just four flights a weekday between Sydney and Melbourne; the first doesn't depart until 7am, the next is at 10am then a seven hour hiatus till the 5pm then the last at 8pm. They're not going to be picking up corporate travellers with a threadbare schedule like that.
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Old 27th Jun 2022, 10:54
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JS in the Australian again having a whinge, wanting NSW to re regulate regional routes. Rex must really be struggling if he spending all this energy hating on QF.
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Good luck to the Saab drivers tomorrow.
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Old 13th Jul 2022, 02:47
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Just looking through some curfew dispensation reports, noticed a couple of REX flights
27 Feb ZL390 SYD-BNE 156 on board
18 March ZL6437 MEL-SYD 147 on board
18 March ZL6437 Coffs-SYD 27 on board SAAB

These don't reflect the single digit to low double digit loads being touted about on here, yes it's just 2 flights, but from what's being posted regularly you would be under the impression that REX are struggling to get to 1/4 full on every flight

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/si...ort_3_2022.pdf
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Just looking through some curfew dispensation reports, noticed a couple of REX flights
27 Feb ZL390 SYD-BNE 156 on board
18 March ZL6437 MEL-SYD 147 on board
18 March ZL6437 Coffs-SYD 27 on board SAAB

These don't reflect the single digit to low double digit loads being touted about on here, yes it's just 2 flights, but from what's being posted regularly you would be under the impression that REX are struggling to get to 1/4 full on every flight

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/si...ort_3_2022.pdf
They are doing better- seem to have decent oads Friday-Monday.
Given they have a decent product on proven markets against competitors who are pizzing their customers off, they've got a shot.
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