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Old 18th Aug 2021, 23:55
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Vaccination rates to reach 95%???

Just looking at reported vaccination rates, more than 95% in the 70+ age group in the ACT have received at least one dose (83+% Australia wide).

95% of ACT 70+ year olds should be double-dosed by mid-November.

Ever the optimist, why can’t all age groups reach a 95% vaccination rate?

Supply & the ability to deliver being the main limitations ... assuming we can get past ‘vaccine hesitancy’
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:04
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Much easier to prove, to persuade a person in the age range that gets hit by 20-50% mortality rates that vaccinating is in their interest. As you can see reading back the main issue is the younger folk believing it's like the flu, until they get it and then somehow changing their tune, add to that some well placed conspiracies and bad media.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:05
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Originally Posted by layman
Just looking at reported vaccination rates, more than 95% in the 70+ age group in the ACT have received at least one dose (83+% Australia wide).

95% of ACT 70+ year olds should be double-dosed by mid-November.

Ever the optimist, why can’t all age groups reach a 95% vaccination rate?

Supply & the ability to deliver being the main limitations ... assuming we can get past ‘vaccine hesitancy’
a large cohort who do not want to get vaccinated are females of childbearing age. And more generally the young who the virus doesn’t effect as much as the elderly. While the overall US % was nearing 70% fully vaccinated, the younger age group was only 44%. And remember their experience has been a hell of a lot worse than ours in terms of deaths per million. So as our actions are heavily shaped by our own lived experience, it may be even more difficult to get our younger age groups up to the required 70% , 80%+
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
and done a wonderful smear job on AstraZeneca purely for political purposes. She and her health nutter knew full well the weakness of the federal libs especially Morrison was the lack of Pfizer. But there was plenty of AstraZeneca. So we get the chook making up bull**** stories so she can get Pfizer and the quack doing a hatchet job on AstraZeneca not once but twice. Keeping Queensland safe. I think not.
anyone who thinks the lockdowns are about anything but the politics needs to buy some magic beans next time they’re at the market. Listen to Chairman Dan, McGoose and Queen P at their pressers, and listen to how many times they reference NSW - over and over again. They see the lack of Pfizer and situation in NSW as political capital and hammer it every day. That’s why you’re locked dow or locked up.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:33
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Originally Posted by minigundiplomat
anyone who thinks the lockdowns are about anything but the politics needs to buy some magic beans next time they’re at the market. Listen to Chairman Dan, McGoose and Queen P at their pressers, and listen to how many times they reference NSW - over and over again. They see the lack of Pfizer and situation in NSW as political capital and hammer it every day. That’s why you’re locked dow or locked up.
Maybe if Gladys didn't play politics to begin with we wouldn't be in this mess. Now we've spread delta across to NZ. It's easy to reference NSW when they have single-handedly ****** two nations.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:33
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So accept the virus has a greater impact on different age groups and target appropriately.

70+...95% 60-70...80% 40-60...66% below 40...50%....................or similar.

Hopefully the targets would be well exceeded, the minority who choose not to/desire not to be vaccinated should be of no concern.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 00:58
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Maybe if Gladys didn't play politics to begin with we wouldn't be in this mess. Now we've spread delta across to NZ. It's easy to reference NSW when they have single-handedly ****** two nations.
NZ cases are an issue for NZ quarantine, unless NSW is launching infected bodies over by catapult.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:02
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681 in SYD today...
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:07
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681 in SYD today...
Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:14
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Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
The writing has been on the wall for a good month now.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:16
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Thats the trigger for WA. I feel sorry for people from WA currently in NSW. They may not get home for months.
You lot voted for him. Overwhelmingly. You reap what you sow...
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:21
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Devil

you have more hope getting to WA via India, they refuse to book locals into Hotel Quarantine even at your own expense .
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:34
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Originally Posted by Agent_86
681 in SYD today...
21 in AKL as at 1300NZST
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:36
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21 in AKL as at 1300NZST

that escalated quickly.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:38
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that escalated quickly.
And likely to be more during the day
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:43
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Originally Posted by Chris2303
21 in AKL as at 1300NZST
Originating from Sydney. Onya Gladys …. Gold Standard… we do it differently in NSW.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 01:54
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Can't blame Gladys for that one...They haven't had travel from Sydney since 22 June, IIRC.

You're better off asking how it got out out of quarantine. Or else, you should really lay the blame at the feet of the guilty party - those bloody Indians who came up with the Delta variant.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 02:01
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Can't blame Gladys for that one...They haven't had travel from Sydney since 22 June, IIRC.

You're better off asking how it got out out of quarantine. Or else, you should really lay the blame at the feet of the guilty party - those bloody Indians who came up with the Delta variant.
ok… but it’s from Sydney


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...modelling-says
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 02:09
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Maybe if Gladys didn't play politics to begin with we wouldn't be in this mess. Now we've spread delta across to NZ. It's easy to reference NSW when they have single-handedly ****** two nations.
​​​​​​https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...5d24bfa57fa17c

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0210609-p57zae

Short memories. We’ve had plenty of Victorians fleeing Chairman Dan’s gold standard, spreading COVID as they go. Up here in Cairns, we can tell when Victorian’s are 3 days into lockdown by the sudden influx of Victoria - The Lockdown State plates as victorians flee.
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Old 19th Aug 2021, 02:16
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Why try and ignore facts and change history.

One Victorian spread it to one NSW at the start. Victoria then beat it, NSW played politics, played with fire and the fire got loose. No one else is playing politics with this, the comments coming from other leaders is frustration that NSW screwed the pooch and now it's rife everywhere. Since then large numbers of people that have visited NSW or from there have traveled interstate with it and spread it in numbers that grow rapidly, including NZ.

This outbreak is squarely on the NSW gov and Gladys and her team, remember that at the polling booth.

It is possible to beat it when numbers are low, Melbourne proved that. Wait too long while numbers simmer, well then it's chasing your tail like Sydney is doing right now.

Had NSW done what everyone else had done instead of trying to prove some misguided contact tracing worked and just locked down hard we could be having this conversation in a pub anywhere in Australia.
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