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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 01:37
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It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 02:04
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Originally Posted by machtuk
Guys there are many who don't subscribe to the indoctrinated fear prolific poster merchants in here so you are not alone, they just don't spend their entire lives as Govt soldiers:-)
When the draconian laws of the criminals in charge ramp up to the point where food parcels will be delivered then the push back will explode!
It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital. God only knows what has been going on in Oz and NZ. The world is opening up and in NSW, they’re shooting dogs, gassing kids and firing a ton rounds at tax payers. Sure, maybe there was a case for restrictions when Covid was new and unknown, but that point of reasonable as was passed long ago.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 02:17
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It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!
Scotty forgot to order enough vaccines, that's all there is to say about it. The states are paying for the federal government's failings.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 02:21
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It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!
Yeah! but then the rest of the world is vaccinated, we are not, apparently it wasn't a race according to Slomo. Doing our best to catch up.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 02:55
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
Scotty forgot to order enough vaccines, that's all there is to say about it. The states are paying for the federal government's failings.
and for their own politics. Like Queensland. And their big scare campaign on AstraZeneca. Knowing full well it was Morrison’s weak point. Utterly f cking disgraceful.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:16
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Originally Posted by Al R
It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital. God only knows what has been going on in Oz and NZ. The world is opening up and in NSW, they’re shooting dogs, gassing kids and firing a ton rounds at tax payers. Sure, maybe there was a case for restrictions when Covid was new and unknown, but that point of reasonable as was passed long ago.
Well said but it's way too late for common sense now like other countries, we have too many power trip lunatics in control being manipulated by un-elected bureaucrats behind the scenes, essentially we are F**ked!
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:19
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and for their own politics. Like Queensland. And their big scare campaign on AstraZeneca. Knowing full well it was Morrison’s weak point. Utterly f cking disgraceful.
it could have been prevented if the federal government didn't handball responsibility to the states from the start. He and Hunt could have continued the narrative but instead when the AZ reports started to come out they hid away. It's just like when NSW started to fall, Scomo didn't speak publicly for five whole days but was happy to get in front of the mic in May when Melbourne went into lockdown. All of it is bull**** politics.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:35
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It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital.
Correct for 1 year ago, unfortunately that info is not correct anymore, the rate of those in ICU during delta is up to 25% under 40s. I know personally 3 families in the US that have had their under 5 year old in ICU for up to a week, not just for observation. Severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, they have to be sedated and put on fluids as they refuse to eat, drink or even talk, that is how covid affects them. These were completely healthy active toddlers. BTW something not mentioned here is that Delta does have different symptoms to Alpha strain.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 03:49
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 04:00
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Hahaaar! now that's a gold standard
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 04:03
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Hahaaar! now that's a gold standard
One thing NSW has achieved in glorious fashion is having relegated "gold standard" now to a symbol of overconfidence and pride before the fall.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 10:42
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Spoken like a true chinese national beating to a different drum.
Another bizarre post. I don't have any idea what you are on about.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 10:44
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Another bizarre post. I don't have any idea what you are on about.
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 11:28
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Hmm. The fatality rate published by Public Health England for those under fifty shows that more youngsters die if they’re vaccinated than if they’re not. “Vaccine passports” are now dead in the water, especially with a population already irate with the government and a squeamish Johnson.
Not sure what you mean by youngsters, no vaccines are approved for under 12 yet in the UK or USA, and not expected for another 4-6 months.

As for higher mortality of vaccinated we covered that way back 100 posts ago, that's just skewed data as the vaccine does give many people total immunity, the few that get severe breakthrough have a higher rate only. The UK study also found that some of the Unvaxed were on their second go at covid, ie had been reinfected, so had some immunity. There is no doubt that vaccination was proved to be 80-97% effective and preventing, and reducing symptoms and death rate.

Also be very careful when reading data out of context, as in what level of vaccination did they have, the Israeli study on Pfizer had people that only had one shot at the start, so vaccinated was from 1 shot to two shots and minimum 2 weeks post full vaccination. It was quite clear in the Israeli study that within 2 weeks of the first shot the infection rate was similar to unvaxed and by 45 days, or complete vaccination + 2 weeks the vaccinated cohort virtually had no infection and similar drop in hospitalisation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55718553

Covid passes seem far from dead, only news about them at the moment is Boris stuffed up some legislation with regard to forcing nightclubs to only allow vaccinated patrons in. Otherwise their use for travel and other things is ongoing. Otherwise you will need a NHS Covid pass to go clubbing from September.

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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 12:55
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it could have been prevented if the federal government didn't handball responsibility to the states from the start.
Better brush on the Australian Constitution.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 16:24
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown
this absolute stroker doesn’t even know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. Doubtful he,or she, could contribute anything of any use to the thread.
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 18:18
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I think the reinfection rate was only like 4% of cases.
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Old 24th Aug 2021, 01:06
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Only 753 cases today
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Old 24th Aug 2021, 02:00
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown
To the contrary:

I outlined early, Australia's COVID response being a civil defence failure and a template for coercion or defeat at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. This all exacerbated by foolish State parochialism's who seem to weigh up the economic benefits of a vassal state status with the CCP versus a federated Australia.

COVID is round one with the CCP. Round two will likely be a weakened Australian economy and a deteriorating strategic outlook.

Get vaccinated and hide under your bed.
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Old 24th Aug 2021, 02:20
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
To the contrary:

I outlined early, Australia's COVID response being a civil defence failure and a template for coercion or defeat at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. This all exacerbated by foolish State parochialism's who seem to weigh up the economic benefits of a vassal state status with the CCP versus a federated Australia.

COVID is round one with the CCP. Round two will likely be a weakened Australian economy and a deteriorating strategic outlook.
Then if I have made an unfair accusation then I apologise, the thread indeed the site is hijacked by call centre commies with the sole purpose to spread misinformation, divide and collapse our democracy. If that where to happen they will say, see democracy doesn't work, you need our peace keeping forces. not likely to happen I know but that's what they do.

Round two as you describe it would just mean back to how it was 20 years ago before china opened it's population to the world. Not ideal but not catastrophic either.
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