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Old 19th Nov 2021, 22:09
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
OK we get it, you don't like ScoMo, fair enough.

Please don't continue to flog a dead horse - does nothing for the horse and makes the flogger appear unbalanced and unworthy.

Next year you get to express your displeasure at the ballot box - look forward to that time and when it comes let it rip!
But please, you just keep on flogging Palaszcuk, McGowan and West Australians to your tiny mind's content.
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Old 19th Nov 2021, 22:24
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
But please, you just keep on flogging Palaszcuk, McGowan and West Australians to your tiny mind's content.
And when was the last time I said anything about those you mentioned?

I've given up, MM and the chook can play their own games in their own way and I'm happy to look on with mild amusement tinged with occasional incredulity.

Cheers.
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Old 20th Nov 2021, 13:27
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Originally Posted by galdian View Post
OK we get it, you don't like ScoMo, fair enough.

Please don't continue to flog a dead horse - does nothing for the horse and makes the flogger appear unbalanced and unworthy.

Next year you get to express your displeasure at the ballot box - look forward to that time and when it comes let it rip!
just balancing the unbalanced forum that is PPRuNe.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 21:39
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Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 22:21
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Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 22:29
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.
More importantly, is whoever named this new strain a futurama fan? Or simply coincidence.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 22:48
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
Well, here we again! Omnicron much more transmissible than Delta and vaccines only 30% affective against it.
considering Pfizer themselves just said that they wonít know how effective the vaccine is for two weeks, care to share your source for the 30%?
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 22:50
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.
Maybe have a look at Botswana where it was first discovered on 11 November & the crisis there.

Remember what AID's stands for?

https://www.avert.org/professionals/...-0GytjFIxp3hkc
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 23:03
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it was on the news, however they may have made a mistake as it has 50 mutations with 30 new spike proteins

AIDS- Aviation induced divorce syndrome!
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 23:12
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The only evidence that is coming from Omnicron so far is that it is reinfecting previously infected individuals, which would suggest it could reduce vaccine effectiveness as well. Just another lesson to be learned from letting the virus spreads leads to mutations that eventually overcome human defenses, hopefully its less severe, rather than worse.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 23:24
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Major humanitarian crisis about to unfold in Africa. Not even a quarter fully vaccinated.
Much lower death rate from COVID in Africa (except South Africa) compared to other regions throughout the pandemic thus far. Could be from a number of reasons but most likely due to very young population demographics.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 23:57
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I would say the average Africans immune system is armed to the teeth from exposure to everything. There's also the lower age and higher fitness of the general population as well. Not so many fat, diabetic couch surfers in most of Africa, where in SA its closer to 'western' lifestyles. They also are very in-tune with epidemics and avoiding getting sick, you wont see many of them laughing at the spread of sickness like in the west.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 23:59
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Standby for the imminent closure of our international border.......and I so advise!! (there goes the holidays).
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 00:14
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I doubt they will close it straight away, they may restrict travel inbound from certain countries.

They will watch it keenly tho to see the spread.
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 00:52
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Originally Posted by SHVC View Post
I doubt they will close it straight away, they may restrict travel inbound from certain countries.

They will watch it keenly tho to see the spread.
Already happening:

Federal government to announce changes to quarantine for South African arrivals

The variant has been detected in or from people whoíve been to Egypt, Israel, Hong Kong, Belgium. Itís too late to contain out of Africa.

But thereís some preliminary statements from SA that itís not causing too much severe illness and vaccines are still keeping people mostly out of hospital, so caution and a bit of calmness needed.

Already vaccine manufacturers have stated they can tailor booster shots specific to the variant, so no doubt this will trigger anti vaxxers to claim the variant was created by big pharma all along......
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 02:37
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mRNA booster vaccines can be tweaked as such to cater for new variants so shouldnít be a disaster in the West. No doubt they are already working on it.

2022/2023 was always going to be a case of cat and mouse with variants and outbreaks. We need to sort of cycle out of the exit phase with numerous bumps along the way. It will die off eventually......

If itís going to trigger a firm border again, Keep the nations border shut to protect the state borders. We cannot go back to what we are now getting out of. I can see some states shutting off to the world again.

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Old 27th Nov 2021, 02:43
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Originally Posted by dr dre View Post
But thereís some preliminary statements from SA that itís not causing too much severe illness and vaccines are still keeping people mostly out of hospital, so caution and a bit of calmness needed.

Already vaccine manufacturers have stated they can tailor booster shots specific to the variant, so no doubt this will trigger anti vaxxers to claim the variant was created by big pharma all along......
Fingers crossed! Unfortunately caution and calmness donít get clicks! Just saw the Greg Hunt press conference and some questions from the media present suggested he wasnít going far enough - one of them asked about future lockdowns etc. FFS! The parasitic media has a lot to answer for in how this pandemic has unfolded.
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 02:47
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
If itís going to trigger a firm border again, Keep the nations border shut to protect the state borders. We cannot go back to what we are now getting out of. I can see some states shutting off to the world again.
Waste of time if itís more contagious than Delta. We couldnít contain that in hotel quarantine. No chance of containing this. Quarantine camps? Probably, but Howard Springs is still the only dedicated facility.

Definite chance state borders may close again, or stay closed, if Omicron is found in Vic and NSW in the next couple of weeks until more is known.

Moderna has issued press releases indicating theyíre already working on an Omicron specific booster. Pfizer and Moderna indicating 100 days to have new variant specific vaccines to market.

Antivirals should be here soon and as they target a different area they should still be effective.
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 02:49
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At least keep Vic and NSW open to each other. Highly likely by the looks of things, the others well we sort of know what they will do.
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Old 27th Nov 2021, 03:04
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Iím betting that WA will not open its borders any time soon.
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