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Old 21st Apr 2023, 03:46
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ASX releases are your friend.

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Old 21st Apr 2023, 06:23
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So i guess the darwin singapore qantas-alliancelink is not going ahead then? or is the regional airline still going to become there next new international airline
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Old 21st Apr 2023, 22:57
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Bit rich QF now trying to desperately cite Rex’ support on the deal as why it should be approved.

Rex as per usual, are only supporting it because that is what works for itself. They don’t give a rats about anyone but Rex, nothing to do with what works for consumers, it’s what works for its rocky balance sheet. An opportunity to pick up some Virgin work if approved sounds about right.
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Old 22nd Apr 2023, 02:55
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DRW-SIN won't go ahead in an E jet (at this stage), but likely to be an A220 route...when NJS become capable of international ops, consistently upgrading FOs or just being able to attract crew. It's possible mainline SH gets some A220-500s, but that model is so far over the horizon that the ore containing the raw materials for the first airframe hasn't even been dug up yet.
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Old 22nd Apr 2023, 03:11
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Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima
DRW-SIN won't go ahead in an E jet (at this stage), but likely to be an A220 route...when NJS become capable of international ops, consistently upgrading FOs or just being able to attract crew. It's possible mainline SH gets some A220-500s, but that model is so far over the horizon that the ore containing the raw materials for the first airframe hasn't even been dug up yet.
The A220-500 is not even 'a thing'. It's a thought piece stemming from some airlines indicating a desire for an even larger version of the -300.

Airbus have have clearly said they have no intention of seriously looking at it until the existing 220 programme is far more mature.

I can't see why a potential -500 would go to SH anyway. AJ (and hopefully the entire culture) will be long gone when that day arrives, but it's looking more and more like the SH of today is the NJS of tomorrow.
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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 00:35
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Qantas (NJS) A220 patterns shared by Network Planning:

MEL - DRW - SIN - DRW - MEL
BNE - DRW - SIN - DRW - BNE
MEL - BNE - PER - BNE - MEL
BNE - NAN - BNE
MEL - NAN - MEL
MEL - CNS - PER - CNS - MEL

*Not before northern winter 2024 so subject to change.
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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 07:17
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Originally Posted by Lapon
it's looking more and more like the SH of today is the NJS of tomorrow.
That’s right Lapon.

SH looks like a shrinking entity, not enough A321 orders and with no A330 replacement in sight it looks like a narrow body future for a good chunk of the A330 domestic and international flying.

There will be no place to go for current mainline pilots.

Meanwhile the rocket scientists that engineered the crappy NJS agreement are scrambling to fix their greedy screw-up with foreign pilots.

So why can’t AIPA see this?
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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 07:49
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Originally Posted by Jack D. Ripper
That’s right Lapon.

SH looks like a shrinking entity, not enough A321 orders and with no A330 replacement in sight it looks like a narrow body future for a good chunk of the A330 domestic and international flying.

There will be no place to go for current mainline pilots.
As the other thread has identified, with the published training vacancies and residuals for the next training year, mainline is going full steam ahead. There'll probably be over 150 new SH pilots (a quarter of the establishment) trained over the next FY. And apparently this next FY is the lowest amount of training they'll be doing in a FY out of the next 4 years, so it's all planned to be bigger from now on. None of the planned training over the next 12 months accounts for any of the upcoming A321 or A350 training required.

I think it's an increase from 2000 total flight crew in 2022 to roughly 2700 crew in 2027, so much for a "shrinking entity".....

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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 11:25
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Qantas (NJS) A220 patterns shared by Network Planning:

MEL - DRW - SIN - DRW - MEL
BNE - DRW - SIN - DRW - BNE
MEL - BNE - PER - BNE - MEL
BNE - NAN - BNE
MEL - NAN - MEL
MEL - CNS - PER - CNS - MEL
Looks as made up as your training vacancies post on another thread.
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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 11:35
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
Qantas (NJS) A220 patterns shared by Network Planning:

MEL - DRW - SIN - DRW - MEL
BNE - DRW - SIN - DRW - BNE
MEL - BNE - PER - BNE - MEL
BNE - NAN - BNE
MEL - NAN - MEL
MEL - CNS - PER - CNS - MEL

*Not before northern winter 2024 so subject to change.
You're going to be busy on your home flight simulator with that schedule . Do you use real world ATC too?
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Old 23rd Apr 2023, 23:52
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Originally Posted by ShandywithSugar
You're going to be busy on your home flight simulator with that schedule . Do you use real world ATC too?
These are Aircraft Patterns champ. The aircraft will not necessarily fly the whole pattern in 1 day and the crew obviously won’t. The aircraft will overnight (I assume in PER/CNS/DRW).

Where do you think they are going to park 15 A220s in MEL every night?
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Old 24th Apr 2023, 00:56
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Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
These are Aircraft Patterns champ. The aircraft will not necessarily fly the whole pattern in 1 day and the crew obviously won’t. The aircraft will overnight (I assume in PER/CNS/DRW).

Where do you think they are going to park 15 A220s in MEL every night?
The same place they park 20 B717s now.
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The same place they park 20 B717s now.
and the 9 (so far) extra?
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Old 25th Apr 2023, 01:26
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So why can’t AIPA see this?

Finally . . . . A post referencing AIPA (ideally QF management would also be included) as to the demise of the current SH flying.

A top down view would surely prove more productive than the current references to the different alias’s and crew groups forced to operate under the different T&C’s imposed by the employers ?

ONLY that will ultimately fix the current mess that is the QF group domestic situation.
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Old 25th Apr 2023, 01:41
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and the 9 (so far) extra?
FY29 a lifetime in Aviation.
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Old 25th Apr 2023, 05:04
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So why can’t AIPA see this?

Finally . . . . A post referencing AIPA (ideally QF management would also be included) as to the demise of the current SH flying.
Whilst these topics are all important, it’d be nice to say “Finally……A post referencing Alliance.” Given the title of the thread and all.
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 00:23
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Double Trouble fight flight on Alliance!

Picked this up on one of my feeds. Sounds like an interesting flight not.....did it even make Aussie news or did I miss it?

https://viewfromthewing.com/two-sets...he-same-plane/

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Did the F/A forget to do a ‘Welcome to Country’?
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Old 5th May 2023, 07:14
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Woops https://www.accc.gov.au/media-releas...arter-alliance

no more VA flights
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Originally Posted by markis10

yeah. No more co tendering on fifo. Which is currently a few flights out of Perth. This is completely irrelevant to any east coast flying.
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