I demand to be an Airline Pilot - Tell em they're dreaming
The industry makes you feel so sick that you spend your days posting on an online pilot forum...
Don't attack me. The OP essentially made a thread saying 'Don't do it, think about your future'. Is it a crime to post something supporting their sentiment?
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Not the aviation industry, just the airline industry. This might be a pilot forum but its not all pilots are airline pilots.
Don't attack me. The OP essentially made a thread saying 'Don't do it, think about your future'. Is it a crime to post something supporting their sentiment?
Don't attack me. The OP essentially made a thread saying 'Don't do it, think about your future'. Is it a crime to post something supporting their sentiment?
but each to their own
And so these schools can remain busy not just during this current period and into the future let's end this ridiculous campaign by some against foreign pilots learning to fly in Australia and "taking our jobs" or "stealing our airports". China will be the one getting their economy back on track soonest, therefore will need more pilots the soonest. The training of foreign students will probably have to take a more important role in the future to keep Australian aviation alive and a great proportion of those will come from China. So let's end the nationalistic nonsense.
im not attacking you, just pointing out the irony that someone who claims to hate the idea of monotonous airline flying finds the time to post 63 times since February last year on a website designed for the discussion of that exact topic.
but each to their own
but each to their own
And so these schools can remain busy not just during this current period and into the future let's end this ridiculous campaign by some against foreign pilots learning to fly in Australia and "taking our jobs" or "stealing our airports". China will be the one getting their economy back on track soonest, therefore will need more pilots the soonest. The training of foreign students will probably have to take a more important role in the future to keep Australian aviation alive and a great proportion of those will come from China. So let's end the nationalistic nonsense.
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Not everybody who gets a CPL wants to go Airline flying, there's a more interesting/rewarding career if your not after the bars, hat and being called Captain.
Ultimately though the cost of training is going to have to go down if they expect anyone with half a brain to become a pilot these days.
Some stay with the smaller operators because of location, ie Regional Areas. I know a CFI who has held the same job for the last few decades. They don’t have mega mortgages or traffic to deal with. But they love their job. They only get 60 grand a year.
Here’s a tip, don’t go into Aviation soon as school ends. Get a job in a trade, IT, medical, whatever, just not Aviation. For the next decade set yourself up, buy the nice car, the investment property, build savings, and even hold a Private license as a hobby. Save for the CPL. This is what I did. My first paid flying job came mid 30s. I also found I progressed quicker than others. I’m not sure if it was age or life experience.
Here’s a tip, don’t go into Aviation soon as school ends. Get a job in a trade, IT, medical, whatever, just not Aviation. For the next decade set yourself up, buy the nice car, the investment property, build savings, and even hold a Private license as a hobby. Save for the CPL. This is what I did. My first paid flying job came mid 30s. I also found I progressed quicker than others. I’m not sure if it was age or life experience.
Well, maybe we should screw all this physical/social distancing stuff and really get this boomer doomer off the ground!!!
This will at least let those Millenials get those Airline jobs, and those disgruntled Gen Xers their commands.
If nothing else, this thread is a great example of why you shouldn’t drink and prune, you farkin muppets.
j3
This will at least let those Millenials get those Airline jobs, and those disgruntled Gen Xers their commands.
If nothing else, this thread is a great example of why you shouldn’t drink and prune, you farkin muppets.
j3
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Some stay with the smaller operators because of location, ie Regional Areas. I know a CFI who has held the same job for the last few decades. They don’t have mega mortgages or traffic to deal with. But they love their job. They only get 60 grand a year.
Here’s a tip, don’t go into Aviation soon as school ends. Get a job in a trade, IT, medical, whatever, just not Aviation. For the next decade set yourself up, buy the nice car, the investment property, build savings, and even hold a Private license as a hobby. Save for the CPL. This is what I did. My first paid flying job came mid 30s. I also found I progressed quicker than others. I’m not sure if it was age or life experience.
Here’s a tip, don’t go into Aviation soon as school ends. Get a job in a trade, IT, medical, whatever, just not Aviation. For the next decade set yourself up, buy the nice car, the investment property, build savings, and even hold a Private license as a hobby. Save for the CPL. This is what I did. My first paid flying job came mid 30s. I also found I progressed quicker than others. I’m not sure if it was age or life experience.
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I'm not sure that really hold true anymore. Everyone I have ever worked with who tried that is no longer flying professionally or moved into an airline. Ultimately there are few career flying opportunities outside of airlines in Australia. Sure you can travel the world continually chasing GA jobs, but ultimately that gets tiring or you get married and the wife just wants to settle down. I don't think that the whole FIFO pilot gig to some third world country is all that appealing over a long period of time either. Most domestic airlines or regionals have you home enough to make it pretty enticing to most people, assuming you can make the grade.
George, I wasn't saying being a Captain wasn't the job for you, go your hardest if that's what floats your boat. I was saying it's not everybody's dream job..
It doesn't appeal to me, that's not why I learned to fly.
Sounds like your describing an International airline pilot, how many of those do you know who are still on their first wives? Or third wife for that matter?
George, I wasn't saying being a Captain wasn't the job for you, go your hardest if that's what floats your boat. I was saying it's not everybody's dream job..
It doesn't appeal to me, that's not why I learned to fly.
George, I wasn't saying being a Captain wasn't the job for you, go your hardest if that's what floats your boat. I was saying it's not everybody's dream job..
It doesn't appeal to me, that's not why I learned to fly.
Realistically in Australia where are the long term jobs outside of an Airline? RFDS would be one. There are a few private jets around but not many. Maybe a CFI if you like instructing, but that's about it. There is very little charter or specialist flying that would actually pay the bills over a 20+ year period. Now the next question is, would you spend 100K to ultimately become a CFI or B200 Pilot?
For those saying pursue another career that's great however you may never be an airline Captain anywhere if you wait to your mid 30's to get flying. Even LCC are looking at 10+ years to command. Not to mention getting yourself into the airline in the first instance.
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Knowing what I know now about the life of an airline pilot would I choose to follow that career?, the pay is good, the status is high but it’s anti social and rigidly controlled by regulations, what I do love is recreational flying, the freedom and the variety and I can make money in other ways.
If I did have my time again I would probably try to join the forces as a helicopter pilot, much more satisfaction and you do get to actually fly the machine most of the time. Although pay is modest, I’m sure it would suit me better. I do have a friend who is lead pilot for a medivac outfit he has a big turnover of pilots and can’t find IFR rotary pilots
If I did have my time again I would probably try to join the forces as a helicopter pilot, much more satisfaction and you do get to actually fly the machine most of the time. Although pay is modest, I’m sure it would suit me better. I do have a friend who is lead pilot for a medivac outfit he has a big turnover of pilots and can’t find IFR rotary pilots
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Nev, yes there are limited choices GA, Aeromedical, corporate, AG or Fire are some of the few that you can make a career. Agreed they won't make the money there used to be in airlines. I have never had a desire to get a job with airlines. I have had a 40 year career in Ag and on fire work, enjoyed it immensely. 100% hands on, never switched on an autopilot. I learned to fly to fly an aircraft, not to sit there for 95% of the time while the autopilot does the work. I put job satisfaction of AG flying above making double the money in an airline job, after 40 years I still enjoy every hour I fly. I will repeat, not everybody thinks working for an airline is the dream job.
A cold beer in a dodgy bar on the other side of the country or the other side of the world, is one of the things I’ll enjoy that little bit more once this is all over and we’re back to work
