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Old 24th Apr 2020, 10:50
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No tug required........with enough people!

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Old 24th Apr 2020, 11:38
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iflylofd,

There is a difference, QF is in a legal Dispute with PER Airport, and quite possibly could manage to the make good the disputed ammount should a judgement direct, whereas VA is looking less likely by the day to pay any outstanding debt whatsoever.

Don’t blame PER Airport Admin, blame the VA Management of past. 😢
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 12:05
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Perth airport are in dispute with Qantas over unpaid fee's, haven't seen any Caterpillars parked in front of or behind any of their tails have you?
Perhaps because QF are not in administration with debts of MORE THAN $7 billion.
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 12:35
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Add to the list WHO and pharmaceutical companies. They are married together. Drugs are designed to maintain your illness. If they were designed to cure you they would all go broke.
i.e. drugs suppress your immune system your saviour to defeating all bad bacteria and viruses. If people realised this the
only reason you would need to go to hospital is for lacerations and broken bones. Your body heals the rest. Why are we the sickest species still on this planet? Pets are our 2nd sickest because we feed them tin and packaged food.
The healthiest is our wild animals. When was the last time a giraffe, hippo, tiger, or lion ate junk food and dropped in to the local chemist to lower their high blood pressure or cholesterol.
They use the planet resources to have a healthy life so should we. Sorry getting angry frustrated back to saving an airline which we will.
https://youtu.be/h2RlQc-clck

Well this just came out 24 hours after my post BS hey goto 7.45 their's your typhoid fixed.
You know that 99.9% of all species that have ever existed have gone extinct, right?

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Old 24th Apr 2020, 13:49
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How’s B Rayner going to keep current and get over to Bne to grease his pole now ?
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 16:55
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I hope Perth airport desists by Anzac day morning. Their behaviour is the type that brings on a bankruptcy. It also suggests QF dirty tricks to me. If Virgin were flying to Perth, they won’t from now on.
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 20:16
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A silly move by Perth Airport.

Let's say I own an airline (I'm not that stupid) and I want to fly to Perth, but I've seen Perth airport do something stupid with a JCB to another airline's airplane for reasons best known to themselves.

I'd be saying stuff this, they can obviously do without me.
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 20:49
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
I hope Perth airport desists by Anzac day morning. Their behaviour is the type that brings on a bankruptcy. It also suggests QF dirty tricks to me. If Virgin were flying to Perth, they won’t from now on.
Im sure you would love that to be true, but seriously....

’hey Perth airport, it’s Alan. Good thanks. Hey can you go and park some stuff around some VA planes that they aren’t using? Yes yes I know we’ve been in court for years over unpaid fees, all good though, just go and block a few unused aircraft for me will ya? BTW I’m just going to release a statement saying what a bunch of knobs you are too OK?’
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 20:58
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Airports have form on this. Even Australian airports. Remember the QF 737 held hostage at Cant-berra a few years ago?
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 21:53
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
It also suggests QF dirty tricks to me.
Of course it does.
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 22:18
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I have no evidence for my assertion about QF dirty tricks. However the action is stupid on Four levels.

1. The aircraft are not required by Virgin ATM. The aircraft can sit and rot for all the administration cares. They are also blocking at least one gate. I would imagine terminal access is also closed.

2. Perth Airport is not going to improve its position as a creditor by this action. The aircraft are probably not owned by the airline so blackmailing is unlikely to succeed.

3. Virgin may not provide further services to WA as a result.

4. The action sends a powerful signal to the general public that Perth Airport does not expect Virgin to survive.


Why would anyone do something so stupid? My guess is they got a “confidential” tip that VB was going under. Who would say such a thing? Who benefits?
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 22:24
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It is clear that the bulldozer driver didn’t read the memo correctly.
The genius parked it in front of an aircraft in long term storage! It’s not going anywhere with all the tape on it.

Nice stunt - clearly the Perth airport PR hamster wheel is in full swing........ and the media bought it (again).
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 22:53
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Link to Deloitte's page on the matter/Administration: www.deloitte.com/au/virgin

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Old 24th Apr 2020, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
I have no evidence for my assertion about QF dirty tricks. However the action is stupid on Four levels.

1. The aircraft are not required by Virgin ATM. The aircraft can sit and rot for all the administration cares. They are also blocking at least one gate. I would imagine terminal access is also closed.

2. Perth Airport is not going to improve its position as a creditor by this action. The aircraft are probably not owned by the airline so blackmailing is unlikely to succeed.

3. Virgin may not provide further services to WA as a result.

4. The action sends a powerful signal to the general public that Perth Airport does not expect Virgin to survive.


Why would anyone do something so stupid? My guess is they got a “confidential” tip that VB was going under. Who would say such a thing? Who benefits?
I don't think point 3 would be entirely correct. If W.A need more services, anyone that can provide them will. It is unfortunate but PH do have the upper hand here, VA need a place to operate out of and I don't see any major player near PH airport.

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Old 24th Apr 2020, 23:02
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post

Why would anyone do something so stupid? My guess is they got a “confidential” tip that VB was going under.
Or maybe they just follow the news and noticed that Virgin have gone into administration with debts of around $7 billion? I completely agree with your points 1-4, though.
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Old 24th Apr 2020, 23:59
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No need to fabricate “ dirty trick “ conspiracy theories.
I remember when Compass went bust. First to know were the refuelers who started demanding cash.
Then followed the yellow sticker on the nose-gear putting a lien on the aircraft.
Perth Airport has a history of clumsy disputes with tenants.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 00:29
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
I hope Perth airport desists by Anzac day morning. Their behaviour is the type that brings on a bankruptcy. It also suggests QF dirty tricks to me. If Virgin were flying to Perth, they won’t from now on.
Except, Qantas has already come out against Perth Airport's tactics.

'Even by Perth Airport’s standards, this is extraordinary behaviour,' Qantas said in a statement on Friday.

'Protecting your interests is one thing but parking a bulldozer in front of an aircraft while saying you’re "working to secure an agreement’ is ridiculous.

'It’s no way to treat a customer of 20 years. This kind of action is deeply worrying for all users of Perth Airport.'
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 00:36
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Put on a shuttle Bus & fly to Busselton until they pull their heads in!
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 01:30
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
It also suggests QF dirty tricks to me.
I have no evidence for my assertion about QF dirty tricks.
Your escalating, absurd, vitriolic rants against Qantas are getting out of hand Sunfish. You might feel like a very clever industry observer but your posts relating to QF have more in common with a lunatic yelling at the sky.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 02:20
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Kevin Brown Pert Airport CEO must go

Originally Posted by regional_flyer View Post
Except, Qantas has already come out against Perth Airport's tactics.

'Even by Perth Airport’s standards, this is extraordinary behaviour,' Qantas said in a statement on Friday.

'Protecting your interests is one thing but parking a bulldozer in front of an aircraft while saying you’re "working to secure an agreement’ is ridiculous.

'It’s no way to treat a customer of 20 years. This kind of action is deeply worrying for all users of Perth Airport.'
If the Perth Airport Board had any decency, which is unlikely, they would punt the bald foolish Scottish CEO effective immediately. Why? Well apart from the obvious - he is a ****** and an antognist with no thought about others, it doesn’t well serve the reputation of Perth airport in general or Western Australia. The weakling used his lapdog Deb Blaskett to do the dirty work too. As much as I despise Joyce, I hope QF stretch out their fees and charges payments to the Perth airport corporation for as long as possible!
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