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It certainly seems legal under workplace discrimination legislation.
The following are protected attributes:
race
colour
sex
sexual orientation
age
physical or mental disability
marital status
family or carer's responsibilities
pregnancy
religion
political opinion
national extraction
social origin
colour
sex
sexual orientation
age
physical or mental disability
marital status
family or carer's responsibilities
pregnancy
religion
political opinion
national extraction
social origin
Neither for that matter is "nepotism".
Even if the Company went so far as to send a letter stating "Sorry, we are not considering internal applicants at this time", I suspect that would be perfectly legal.
Employment based purely on merit is generally regarded as a good thing, yes (the "fair go" principle). But as far as I know, the private sector has no legal obligation provided they comply with the discrimination legislation.
The public sector is different. They have their own rules.
Yeah I'm with you Derfred, still not convinced it would be illegal (if it's even happening) and statements like "I'm right but can't be bothered proving it" don't cut it for me.
Especially as we are not talking about an employer refusing an employee a transfer/promotion but simply delaying said transfer/promotion to a point in time that would not unduly damage the business's operation. I'd be stunned if the law would force an employer to take that imposition because an employee didn't want to have to wait.
Especially as we are not talking about an employer refusing an employee a transfer/promotion but simply delaying said transfer/promotion to a point in time that would not unduly damage the business's operation. I'd be stunned if the law would force an employer to take that imposition because an employee didn't want to have to wait.
Perhaps it's because they don't want "the Jetstar mentality polluting the Qantas culture"
Ok I am joking slightly as it's rumoured that that was what AJ said in the beginning of Jetstar, but it does has some truism to it.
Perhaps some of the applicants weren't what QF were looking for. Hell there are more than a few QF pilots Qantas they wish they didn't take.
Perhaps some applicants they deemed weren't suited to the time as being a SO. Especially since history shows Qantas usually hangs the SO out to dry in a incident.
Perhaps there were just other applicants higher up the waitlist especially considering the number that applied.
Either way, Qantas is a good job, but it's not the end of the world if you don't make it and there is no saying one won't in years to come. There has always been people who don't get in who we all believe should. The system is not perfect. The grass may be pretty green here right now, but the possibility of another drought? Well it is summer after all
Ok I am joking slightly as it's rumoured that that was what AJ said in the beginning of Jetstar, but it does has some truism to it.
Perhaps some of the applicants weren't what QF were looking for. Hell there are more than a few QF pilots Qantas they wish they didn't take.
Perhaps some applicants they deemed weren't suited to the time as being a SO. Especially since history shows Qantas usually hangs the SO out to dry in a incident.
Perhaps there were just other applicants higher up the waitlist especially considering the number that applied.
Either way, Qantas is a good job, but it's not the end of the world if you don't make it and there is no saying one won't in years to come. There has always been people who don't get in who we all believe should. The system is not perfect. The grass may be pretty green here right now, but the possibility of another drought? Well it is summer after all
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Derfred has part of it, the more relevant section might be S342 Adverse Action. But you would need
to speak with your favorite bush lawyer. This sort of IR behavior would be hard to prove ...
Fair Work Act
Meaning of Adverse Action
- a prospective employer against a prospective
employee
the prospective employer:
(a) refuses to employ the prospective employee;
or
(b) discriminates against the prospective employee in the terms or conditions on which the prospective employer offers to employ the prospective employee.
to speak with your favorite bush lawyer. This sort of IR behavior would be hard to prove ...
Fair Work Act
Meaning of Adverse Action
- a prospective employer against a prospective
employee
the prospective employer:
(a) refuses to employ the prospective employee;
or
(b) discriminates against the prospective employee in the terms or conditions on which the prospective employer offers to employ the prospective employee.
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Especially since history shows Qantas usually hangs the SO out to dry in a incident.
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Especially since history shows Qantas usually hangs the SO out to dry in a incident.
They do? Which incidents were they?
Especially since history shows Qantas usually hangs the SO out to dry in a incident.
They do? Which incidents were they?
Perth -JNB 747 air turn back due to the E1/2 manuals not being loaded. SO lost staff travel rights (not sure what else), Capt/FO - nothing. SO quit and left for CX.
That's 2 straight off the bat. There are more.
QF1 - "If the SO had done his job it would never have occurred." Quote unquote from a Mahogany Roader.
Perth -JNB 747 air turn back due to the E1/2 manuals not being loaded. SO lost staff travel rights (not sure what else), Capt/FO - nothing. SO quit and left for CX.
That's 2 straight off the bat. There are more.
Perth -JNB 747 air turn back due to the E1/2 manuals not being loaded. SO lost staff travel rights (not sure what else), Capt/FO - nothing. SO quit and left for CX.
That's 2 straight off the bat. There are more.
It does not matter WHY an employer may want this, that is their prerogative.
Of course not. That is not what I said and you know that. My point was if an employer wants a female or male that is who they will employ. No law can and will stop that, it merely wastes everyone's time. McGrath you seem to type angry. Are you saying an employer cannot decide to employ a male or female at their choice?
Here is an example. I went for dinner in the CBD on Saturday night to a Malaysian restaurant. I counted five floor staff and at least four in the open kitchen. How many do you think were of anglo-saxon extraction and how many asian? Zero anglo. Try explaining that if someone brought a case.
There are rights under Australian law but they only mean anything if you can exercise them.
Here is an example. I went for dinner in the CBD on Saturday night to a Malaysian restaurant. I counted five floor staff and at least four in the open kitchen. How many do you think were of anglo-saxon extraction and how many asian? Zero anglo. Try explaining that if someone brought a case.
There are rights under Australian law but they only mean anything if you can exercise them.
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Happy new year all!
Does anyone know whether the HR department is back in the office and working through the current applicants?
I know the email sent in December said they'd be shutting down for dec and Jan, but I find that difficult to believe given the volume of work they said was coming in at the assessment day.
I know many folk who are keen to know if they will be progressing or offered a position..
Good luck all!
Does anyone know whether the HR department is back in the office and working through the current applicants?
I know the email sent in December said they'd be shutting down for dec and Jan, but I find that difficult to believe given the volume of work they said was coming in at the assessment day.
I know many folk who are keen to know if they will be progressing or offered a position..
Good luck all!
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Well I guess guess i shouldnt expect the HR team to be trawling a pilot forum looking for the chance to give us some inside goss. Worth the try!
Happy waiting everyone. I hope it's good news whenever it comes!
Happy waiting everyone. I hope it's good news whenever it comes!
Email says congrats you've been successful and you're on active hold. Active hold generally means you've got the job but not a start date for whatever reason.
But saying that, everyone knows someone with an active hold horror story so eventual start date not actually guaranteed.
But saying that, everyone knows someone with an active hold horror story so eventual start date not actually guaranteed.
Intake would be a start date
Nice to see the new faces around.
Nice to see the new faces around.
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Does anyone know the number of SO that Qantas are hiring this year?
Any idea on how many assessment days are being held in Feb? The FQA has not been updated since Nov.
Any idea on how many assessment days are being held in Feb? The FQA has not been updated since Nov.