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Old 16th Sep 2017, 04:19   #1001 (permalink)
 
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A timely warning

I have it from a very good source that the Human Refuse (HR) department, or do they call themselves Total Arseholes (TA) these days? I can't keep up. Have their spies out.

As I alluded to before, the "knowledge is power" wankers see this thread as an erosion of their power base. They are actively following this thread in order to punish anyone seen using this thread as an information source.

If you do post here, ensure you're not giving away anything that can give away your identity. Innocent questions from those with interviews or hoping for them could see your application binned thanks to the spiteful attitudes of these pin headed bureaucrats.

If you have an interview, don't give away the date. Change your profile email address to an anonymous one. Use a VPN.

You shouldn't have to, as seeking information from any resource should be seen as a positive, but not when you're dealing with these human skid marks.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 08:19   #1002 (permalink)
 
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So members of the recruitment team are logging on to prune, doing IP traces, matching email addresses with all candidates in order to catch out a few that might ask a question on here, then ruling them out of contention?

Did you get knocked back?
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 08:23   #1003 (permalink)
 
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What a load of g%$bage
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:01   #1005 (permalink)
 
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I have it from a very good source that the Human Refuse (HR) department... Have their spies out.
If a non-participant may add a comment, there's every reason to believe that airline HR departments DO monitor social media. It's a new era, privacy is an illusion and there's an excellent chance that airline HR departments monitor popular sites like Facebook, PPRuNe, etc. There is a HUGE supply of pilots ( Up Here and Down There) and HR folks are looking for ways to cull the herd.

You probably won't want to read all of it but this thread was started by a guy with VERY close ties to Delta HR and likely knows what he's talking about. DL is hiring by the thousands...and is still thinning the herd for the slightest misstep no matter where they can find it. At least read the last 5 pages or so with reference to people's reactions on DL's pilot employment Facebook page and Derg's comments thereon.

It's a new world, folks. Don't help them stop you before you even get started:

https://forums.jetcareers.com/thread...1-2017.252866/

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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:17   #1006 (permalink)
 
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So members of the recruitment team are logging on to prune, doing IP traces, matching email addresses with all candidates in order to catch out a few that might ask a question on here, then ruling them out of contention?
That's exactly what they're doing.

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Did you get knocked back?
No. I'm a current Qantas pilot. Just trying to look after those trying to get past the gate keepers.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:17   #1007 (permalink)
 
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What a load of g%$bage
If you say so.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:18   #1008 (permalink)
 
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Then don't. Go ahead and see what happens. Don't say you weren't warned.
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 11:22   #1009 (permalink)
 
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No. I'm a current Qantas pilot.
Maybe best not to keep calling QF HR arseholes and wankers on social media, if you want to remain one?
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Old 16th Sep 2017, 12:30   #1010 (permalink)
 
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QF HR are the finest of individuals who are constantly overlooked in both the New Years' and Queen's Birthday honours lists. Their tireless devotion to duty is often under-appreciated by the common QF pilot.

I, however, would like to personally thank all the brave women and women who work in HR, who toil endlessly to keep the QF machine rolling smoothly forward.

If they were to use these forums to fast track my 330 FO slot, then who could blame them...

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Old 17th Sep 2017, 05:41   #1011 (permalink)
 
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IsDon No doubt these management people would have a list of university degrees longer than your arm - you know, the really useful ones, so the end result is they would battle to organise a chook raffle.
But they are the smartest people in the room. So get with the program.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 05:32   #1012 (permalink)
 
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Guys I got through the QF process really easily and started with them about a month ago. PM me if anyone has any questions about the interview process and also starting out with them. Happy to help.
It would help if you turned on your PM.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 05:58   #1013 (permalink)
 
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[QUOTE][/There is a HUGE supply of pilots ( Up Here and Down There)QUOTE]

If you care to check out Boeing, Airbus and CAE the world is going to require 620,000 flight crew by the year 2030.

The Co-pilots required by 2027 have not yet started to learn to fly.

Good luck to the `clerks' in HR with the search and or culling.
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 10:37   #1014 (permalink)
 
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The Qantas CP has been accessing PPRuNe through his PA since 2002 as far as I am aware so any potential candidates would do well to heed the words of IsDon. The co-pilots of 2027 won't be starting flying until 2025 on cadet courses, thats how HR will get around the problem. Lots of glossy PR about how great it is to fly 1000 hours a year and see the world (they won't mention that it will be from the inside of a hotel room on your 36 hour layover).
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 22:18   #1015 (permalink)
 
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Lots of glossy PR about how great it is to fly 1000 hours a year and see the world (they won't mention that it will be from the inside of a hotel room on your 36 hour layover).
36 hrs? That will be called an 'extended layover' by then.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 01:41   #1016 (permalink)
 
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767 isnt glass?

Probably had nothing to do with most likely they were just unlucky with the HR crap shoot. As you said already working at a major and accepted by another - all signs point to a meddling department.
Plus no recruitment dept is perfect. Good luck to em
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 02:22   #1017 (permalink)
 
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IsDon is correct, however ALL HR departments and recruitment consultants these days are doing the same thing - they want to build your "social media/internet profile" and they use every tool they can to do this. There are also a host of new start up companies that specialise in trawling through the internet looking for your traces. They trawl through stuff like linked-in etc.

Examples of what not to do:

Have a pornographic email address.

Post anything to a website that could be regarded by ANYONE as extremist or bizarre (I once inherited an employee whose hobby was morris dancing seriously).

Let your hair down on your facebook page about what you did last night.

Post any opinion that could characterise you as angry, unbalanced, depressed, fixated or aggrieved.

Post anything that is not politically correct starting with admitting to not voting yes to SSM, being skeptical about climate change or confessing you think Pauline Hanson is sexy.

Trash your current or former employer on any website.

Please note that HR do not have a sense of humour. Please note that your mildly ingenious method of hiding your identity will not work either.

Ideally your profile should show absolute loyalty to you former employers, plain vanilla political and social attitudes, charity, chastity, prudence and similar virtues.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 04:18   #1018 (permalink)
 
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At this point I don't give a flying f&ck whether HR reads my social media or what they think of it.
I have had a gut full of their BS.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 05:38   #1019 (permalink)
 
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... that could characterise you as angry, unbalanced, depressed, fixated or aggrieved.
Yep, wait until you're halfway across the Pacific before unleashing that stuff.

I read that someone is suggesting a "rainbow roo" pin that staff can wear at work...
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 05:43   #1020 (permalink)
 
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Id wear one, just to wind up the old farts and riffraaf
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