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Old 12th Feb 2019, 06:22
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If you haven't already started with QF then I agree you have missed the boat.

Thats not saying you won't get a start date, but you have for sure missed the seniority train. Expect a long career as FO.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 06:45
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I think you mean...

Originally Posted by rep View Post
If you haven't already started with QF then I agree you have missed the boat.

Thats not saying you won't get a start date, but you have for sure missed the seniority train. Expect a long career as FO SO.


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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:14
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Originally Posted by Slezy9 View Post
I think you mean...
Actually I didn't.

Join now and your ~400 behind since recruitment started in 2016.

SO time will most likely drop as huge amount of guys retire, but you can expect a long time as FO because there is literally 400 new joiners in front of you.

If you don't like SO, you can still get Perth 737 F/O in the first month subject to training availability.

If you are still looking to join QF, I would be praying for more 787 orders.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:36
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Originally Posted by rep View Post

SO time will most likely drop as huge amount of guys retire, but you can expect a long time as FO
That doesn't make sense? Why would time as a SO differ from time as an FO due retirements?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:19
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
That doesn't make sense? Why would time as a SO differ from time as an FO due retirements?
Because there is 400 new joiners in front of you who will sit on command?
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 21:43
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Rep is correct on this one, join now and you will have an extended career as an FO, join in 6 months or later expect to be an SO for an extended period. Those not at the start of a hiring boom are always disadvantaged here, and the start has definitely gone.

There is no pilot shortage at Qantas mainline, and there never will be. There is a training glut, the system here takes a ridiculous time to train or upgrade, its not that the training is more intense or safer than other airlines itís just the mainline way , especially in long haul. This takes pilots out of the system for long periods so there is a perceived shortage. When the training slows and it will, hiring will slow dramatically as well, to the point of stagnation again.

Its a great place to work and itís fantastic seeing new faces but if you are expecting quick progression through the ranks you need to expect to be dissapointed.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 00:23
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Lest we forget that a large number in Mainline are 50+. In 15 years they will all be gone. If you consider that amount of time to be a long time then you have a point but if we assume that project sunrise goes ahead at some point and ultra long flying becomes standard then QF like everywhere else is going to have a major problem.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 01:08
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There are a lot of high paying jobs at qantas that don’t require the left seat.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 02:53
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Originally Posted by MACH082 View Post
There are a lot of high paying jobs at qantas that donít require the left seat.
of course there are, but they require the seniority of some left hand seats..or higher! And that what itís all about here , seniority., which if you are joining from now on you donít have much of.

Im not saying itís a bad place to get stuck in the right hand seat , it isnít. You just need to be prepared for the fact that there is a good chance it will be longer than you think. This place is notorious for stopping recruiting and expansion at any sign of a hiccup or share price fluctuation, itís as though group management are adverse to expansion in mainline, but thatís a topic thatís been done to death here. Project Sunrise I donít see as expansion, it will be point to point but codesharing more ports that are used as stopovers.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 02:25
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Can anyone shed light on if start dates are based on how well you did in the interview/sim etc or are they based on when you were placed on the hold file? Hearing conflicting stories...
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 22:31
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When I went through the process (many years ago), applicants were placed on the hold file in the order of their scores achieved during the testing/interview process and each course was selected from the top of the list.

These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 22:39
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It also depends if youíre an internal or external applicant. For internal applicants once you are on the hold file itís up the your respective group company to advise a release date to Qantas.
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 00:19
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing View Post
These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence.
By the looks of the last few intakes, the pool of "certain profile groups" is dry
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 03:21
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing View Post
When I went through the process (many years ago), applicants were placed on the hold file in the order of their scores achieved during the testing/interview process and each course was selected from the top of the list.

These days, the process is controlled by HR and we know that they are selecting applicants from certain profile groups out of the usual ranking sequence.
Thanks for the feedback! So from what you're saying, the chances of myself starting on the same course as the people I interviewed with is quite remote/anyone's guess as it's based on our individual profile assessment?
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 04:12
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Yes, AFAIK. The person with more up to date knowledge of how the system is working is Keg - he might provide some input when he gets some time.
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