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Qantas non-stop PER to LHR?

Old 11th Dec 2016, 08:04
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It will be interesting to see what will be set up for a diversion point at LHR for what ever reason. Does the 789 have sufficient capacity for a flight that long and have 30mins plus holding fuel?
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 08:16
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"It will be interesting to see what will be set up for a diversion point at LHR for what ever reason. Does the 789 have sufficient capacity for a flight that long and have 30mins plus holding fuel?"

You wouldn't announce / pursue it if it didnt work right?

And I'm with RodH. no way I'll be on it!!....especially in Y .... I far prefer to drift on up to SE Asia on an enjoyable day flight, and hit Europe from there, similarly, coming home, break it up nice and easy, midday to midnight(ish) flight back to East Coast.....and go to bed.....For us, same reason as no flying between Rast coast and Dubai...
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 08:38
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And why would you want to be on it Fliegenmong from where you reside ? But for people in the western two thirds of the continent it makes eminent sense.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 09:32
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Well....uh yeah...exactly....why would I want to be on it!....No idea what PER connections are to SIN, for say example....but if I were in PER, I'd rather go to SIN and connect from there.....Bypass the 'Disneyland on steroids' that is Dubai, and make the major East / West journey from SE Asia!...come back & break the trip again...recover in SE Asia (East / West Time zone issue) and head back south 'Down Under' in a leisurley manner......but that is just me...
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 09:34
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Originally Posted by logansi View Post
There is talk that it will run with a Melbourne tag on, operating MEL-PER-LHR-PER-MEL any idea if there is truth to this?
One of the versions I've heard is that when we get enough aeroplanes (4-5 I think) they'll actually operate LHR- PER- MEL- DFW and then back the other way. Obviously different flight numbers for the DFW stuff.

Whether it's true? Time will tell.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 10:25
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 10:55
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Great news for PER based pilots.
Once PER-LHR is up and established there will definitely be a basing there.
MEL base to do LAX first then DFW after LHR. Prob MEL base to start then PER to take over in time.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 11:22
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Presumably the QF 787 will be CatIIIC landing limits, so weather only a problem in a minority of flights.
Also many close alternates Lhr. From the initial approach heights a diversion to Gwk Stn Lut about the same fuel. All Cat III ILS
In my airline at Lhr with good actual weather and both rwys in use, with no ATC delays, we were allowed to plan the alternate side rwy a as our as the diversion, and commit when TOD.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 20:43
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It is perhaps an insight that by-passing Dubai is important. Given the hastily concocted EK alliance, it is interesting to look through Qantas' annual reports and not see any revenue impact of the alliance..At least for Qantas!

What is interesting is that two private (near in the case of Qantas) monopolies do not bear the cost of a commercial transaction, as always, despite privatisation, the tax payer is on the hook. We shall see if the purported 'commercial benefits' materialise.

Thanks TL, these days flying is observed, and could think of nothing worse than no night credits and ultra long range flying. Each to their own!
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 22:15
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Tuck Mach, after post, after post, after post, of...
And there ladies and gentlemen is the reality: Qantas float their idea of 'could' and 'may' promising everything, but committing nothing...

Spin over substance and they were rightly called on it.
the reality is Perth airport called Qantas spin on their assertions and ultimately in the world of business 'may' 'could' and other hollow phrases do not cut it.
The original thread regarding Perth London was my focus and the spin associated with a thought bubble
...how about a gracious, "I guess I was wrong"?
It was more than a thought bubble. The terminal access arrangement was negotiated successfully and they even got the state government to kick in a few bob to help make it a reality.

Given your forensic analysis of all the errors of Qantas over the last decade, perhaps you could also acknowledge your own error.
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 22:24
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Beer Baron,
You may have heard that old saying...
"Don't count your chickens before they've hatched."
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Old 11th Dec 2016, 23:35
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QF9 MEL/DXB/LHR to be axed in favour of PER/LHR. 380's to be deployed elsewhere.
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 00:08
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Originally Posted by Bad Adventures View Post
QF9 MEL/DXB/LHR to be axed in favour of PER/LHR. 380's to be deployed elsewhere.
Victorville?
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 00:23
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Originally Posted by Bad Adventures View Post
QF9 MEL/DXB/LHR to be axed in favour of PER/LHR. 380's to be deployed elsewhere.
MEL-SIN-LHR

Pleasepleasepleaseplease....
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 00:47
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^^^ FRA

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Old 12th Dec 2016, 00:54
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380's to be deployed elsewhere.
Australia-China/Japan/Singapore. The growth is in Asia. 500 pax and <10hrs flying, ideal for the 380.
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 02:22
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In my airline at Lhr with good actual weather and both rwys in use, with no ATC delays...
How often does that happen?
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 02:24
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Nice of the gov't to use public monies to get this one off the ground. Will Qantas pay it back through their profits?
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 03:01
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The way QF and the media are spinning this "game changer" today is way over the top, you'd think QF were launching a space shuttle !!
It's a bog-standard 787 Alan (and a pretty cramped one in Y-class), and it's arriving years after your competitors already have hundreds of them in service.
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Old 12th Dec 2016, 03:15
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Originally Posted by ruprecht View Post
MEL-SIN-LHR

Pleasepleasepleaseplease....
I think MEL-SIN-LHR by A-380 is ideal from customer point of view.
MEL-PER-LHR is better than via Middle East.
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