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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 11:33
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Originally Posted by mohikan
going_up is not "the first Australian pilot to get an E3 visa". There was a QF captain on LOA in the early 'thousands who lived and worked in Alaska on one. I am aware of at least one other also from my time contracting in Europe.

In addition, the only reason Australian pilots are being hired for regional operations is to keep US pilot wages depressed post the introduction of the "1500 hour rule" after Colgan air.

You are effectively scabbing on US pilots. Kid yourself otherwise.

Lastly, the carriers that going_up and others are holding up as shining lights of model employers are notorious for exploiting pilots, pushing safety and maintenance standards, having wafer thin operational resilience and generally operating an negative and toxic business model for the enrichment of executives at the expense of staff. No different to anywhere else.

There is currently massive influence operation by regional airline sponsored lobbyists going on aimed at the US congress at present to get the "1500 hour rule" rescinded.

If that happens, Skywest and others will drop going_up and all other E3s like third grade French.

By all means take whats on offer, listen to going_up and others who are lining their pockets with commissions at your expense, but be in no doubt whats actually going on here and above all have a plan for when the merry go around stops.

How many E3 australian pilots are members of US ALPA I wonder ?
You've made a lot of good and accurate observations especially in regards to going_up. And I know that he's primary motivation is lining his pockets and narcissistic tendencies. But in all of he's posts they've been 98% accurate to what I also know.
You are also right the merry go around will stop one day. However I don't see it happening for a few years yet so I'm going to enjoy the ride while I still can. Having a great time earning decent money. Getting valuable 20+ tonne jet time actually hand flying approaches if I want. Not sitting in the back of a QF or CX plane getting cruise relief time going to LHR or HKG.
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Originally Posted by 02041402
What he said
What he said x2. One of the great things about the USA is that the lack of constant negativity and putting others down (d*ck waving) that goes on at so many places in Australia.
You don't even need a referral to get into skywest anymore so I dont know what you guys are going on about referral bonuses for. The guy is offering to help, like everything take his advice on board then do your own research and make your own decision. Skywest is a good option but so are other places (except Mesa). Or, you can continue waiting on the Qlink call that never comes or hope
the guy that thinks you need 3000 hours and a shuttle endorsement to fly a c404 makes an exception for you.

If you are switched on, prepared to learn and be humbled come to the USA, get some free jet time flying into places like LAX, SFO, Chicago etc with some great crews. That first CATII to mins in Chicago onto a contaminated runway, navigating the craziness that is O'Hare ground during a snow storm will open your eyes. There is a big world outside of Australia and they do aviation so much better.
Oh and free staff travel (F. R. E. E)!! In Y within the USA is not bad either.
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 18:16
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Originally Posted by mohikan
going_up is not "the first Australian pilot to get an E3 visa". There was a QF captain on LOA in the early 'thousands who lived and worked in Alaska on one. I am aware of at least one other also from my time contracting in Europe.

In addition, the only reason Australian pilots are being hired for regional operations is to keep US pilot wages depressed post the introduction of the "1500 hour rule" after Colgan air.

You are effectively scabbing on US pilots. Kid yourself otherwise.

Lastly, the carriers that going_up and others are holding up as shining lights of model employers are notorious for exploiting pilots, pushing safety and maintenance standards, having wafer thin operational resilience and generally operating an negative and toxic business model for the enrichment of executives at the expense of staff. No different to anywhere else.

There is currently massive influence operation by regional airline sponsored lobbyists going on aimed at the US congress at present to get the "1500 hour rule" rescinded.

If that happens, Skywest and others will drop going_up and all other E3s like third grade French.

By all means take whats on offer, listen to going_up and others who are lining their pockets with commissions at your expense, but be in no doubt whats actually going on here and above all have a plan for when the merry go around stops.

How many E3 australian pilots are members of US ALPA I wonder ?
I was in the US on a E3 visa working as an instructor prior to joining Skywest! Read the post! I was he first AIRLINE PILOT E3 visa holder! People who can read between the lines are looking at you with smiles. You are loosing credibility with each post.
If you apply directly, I don't get a cent. If you are happy for me to refer you, then contact me directly. I'm not taking money for any applicants! If they allow me to refer them, the airline gives me $1,250! Not he applicant.
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 18:40
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Originally Posted by mohikan
You are effectively scabbing on US pilots. Kid yourself otherwise.
Really? It's certainly not how the tens, perhaps hundreds of US pilots I've worked and flown with in the last 10 months perceive us Aussies working here. I, and I'm sure other Australian pilots also, have been made to feel very welcome on the flightdeck by US pilots, who are either company Captains in the left seat or the occasional Capt or FO from the majors who jumpseat on our flights. They make us feel very much at home.

As mentioned above, it's a great experience for anyone considering making the move; brand new aircraft (if you're on the E175 fleet), a range of weather to deal with from CAT2 ILS (which all FO's at SkyWest are certified to do), snow and deicing procedures in the winter, convective TS activity in the summer, international flying to Vancouver, Edmonton in Canada, and Guanajuato in Mexico and the opportunity to fly in to the world's busiest airports like Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco and Atlanta. It sure beats instructing circuits in a 152 at Moorrabbin or Bankstown.
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 21:22
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Originally Posted by 02041402
You've made a lot of good and accurate observations especially in regards to going_up. And I know that he's primary motivation is lining his pockets and narcissistic tendencies. But in all of he's posts they've been 98% accurate to what I also know.
You are also right the merry go around will stop one day. However I don't see it happening for a few years yet so I'm going to enjoy the ride while I still can. Having a great time earning decent money. Getting valuable 20+ tonne jet time actually hand flying approaches if I want. Not sitting in the back of a QF or CX plane getting cruise relief time going to LHR or HKG.
I would suggest you reconsidering your post with regards to me lining my pockets with a mere $1,250 bonus without knowing a single thing about me. Consider yourself lucky that someone like me open the doors for Aussies in the regional world, and let me tell you, it wasn't me basically applying and them saying yes. Pretty much everyone would not have a bar of me!

I dislike those who are so quick to shoot me down when I have helped so many come across to Skywest before we opened it to mainstream recruitment! So these guys that are applying and sending me loads of emails asking for advice, what should I do? Just stop relying for the sake of all these negative Aussies online? Nah! I think I will continue to be the guy that Skywest based their decision on to open the E3 doors publicly.

I have done all the ground work on this, started this whole damn thing, and I would be damned if I sit by and watch a fellow pilot put me down without any justification! I have only referred on guy from online out of over 20 that have contacted me. Why so little? Because I actually care!

As you would have no doubt seen, this whole putting down fellow pilots does not really exist here in the US, let alone at Skywest. I would appreciate if you keep your negative view to a minimum, especially ones that are unjustified.

The great thing is that all the guys emailing me don't actually post here. I must say that the positive response from Aussie pilots with great attitudes has been overwhelming. Thanks again to all those considering Skywest. As I said, I do not mind if you are with other regionals and have questions. I know that other regionals are still very much learning as they go.
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Originally Posted by going_up
I would suggest you reconsidering your post with regards to me lining my pockets with a mere $1,250 bonus without knowing a single thing about me. Consider yourself lucky that someone like me open the doors for Aussies in the regional world, and let me tell you, it wasn't me basically applying and them saying yes. Pretty much everyone would not have a bar of me!

I dislike those who are so quick to shoot me down when I have helped so many come across to Skywest before we opened it to mainstream recruitment! So these guys that are applying and sending me loads of emails asking for advice, what should I do? Just stop relying for the sake of all these negative Aussies online? Nah! I think I will continue to be the guy that Skywest based their decision on to open the E3 doors publicly.

I have done all the ground work on this, started this whole damn thing, and I would be damned if I sit by and watch a fellow pilot put me down without any justification! I have only referred on guy from online out of over 20 that have contacted me. Why so little? Because I actually care!

As you would have no doubt seen, this whole putting down fellow pilots does not really exist here in the US, let alone at Skywest. I would appreciate if you keep your negative view to a minimum, especially ones that are unjustified.

The great thing is that all the guys emailing me don't actually post here. I must say that the positive response from Aussie pilots with great attitudes has been overwhelming. Thanks again to all those considering Skywest. As I said, I do not mind if you are with other regionals and have questions. I know that other regionals are still very much learning as they go.
You're not the first Aussie pilot to fly in the US on an E3. Get your head out of your ass, otherwise I agree with most of your other points
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Originally Posted by havick
You're not the first Aussie pilot to fly in the US on an E3. Get your head out of your ass, otherwise I agree with most of your other points
Havick, you guys are killing me. How many times do I need to say this. The first E3 airline pilot. Not just pilot, just a 121, RPT, airline, whatever you ant to call it, I was the first to set up this E3 pilot stream for AIRLINESSSSSSS!!!!!

I know of a guy who worked in FL as a flight instructor few the great part of a decade, well before I even knew about the E3!

I would appreciate and look forward to your reply! AIRLINE E3 pilot!!!!

How would I know this? When I first started applying more than 2 years ago, all of them had no idea about the E3, thought it was the H1B1 and showed me the cold shoulder!

I would really like to see your reply considering "I have my head up my ass"

I am sorry to be blunt, I am just tired of being attacked here!
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 22:52
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Apart from stoking your ego, does it really matter?
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 23:01
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere
Apart from stoking your ego, does it really matter?
Well, I initially stated this as a sign of my background into the E3 visa stream, I attempted to present myself as an individual you know the ins and outs of the E3 visa stream with 121 carriers in the United States.
When you attempt to offer help and your creditably is under attack, those who are genuine usually fire back at the individuals spouting negative comments about what you are attempting to do. Those that are called out as frauds, tend to keep quiet as they don't have anything to back themselves up.

So in short, yes! It does matter when people are making negative statements about me that are clearly unjust.

How does this inflate my ego? Because I put in the leg work? If it was an ego thing, why the hell am I offering assistance without any return? Why would I make such statements?

I'll tell you why! So those looking for assistance know where to go. I am not the be all and in all. We have many pilots here that could help you. I am just offering my assistance and I get the typical Australian forum treatment?

What is your reply?
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Originally Posted by going_up
Well, I initially stated this as a sign of my background into the E3 visa stream, I attempted to present myself as an individual you know the ins and outs of the E3 visa stream with 121 carriers in the United States.
When you attempt to offer help and your creditably is under attack, those who are genuine usually fire back at the individuals spouting negative comments about what you are attempting to do. Those that are called out as frauds, tend to keep quiet as they don't have anything to back themselves up.

So in short, yes! It does matter when people are making negative statements about me that are clearly unjust.

How does this inflate my ego? Because I put in the leg work? If it was an ego thing, why the hell am I offering assistance without any return? Why would I make such statements?

I'll tell you why! So those looking for assistance know where to go. I am not the be all and in all. We have many pilots here that could help you. I am just offering my assistance and I get the typical Australian forum treatment?

What is your reply?
I personally know of three E3's flying 121 Airlines that were here long before you.

It's not a negative statement about you, it's simply pointing out you weren't the first, and wing be the last. The only person that seems to be making a big deal about allegedly being the first is you.

Not that it matters, who really gives a toss but you?

Facts is E3's will continue to be hired. Everyone is welcome.
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As much as I enjoy reading the back of forths here ..... I would love to hear some more experiences of the E3 visa interview. Documents provided and how everyone who is lucky enough to be over there found it. Anymore information I am sure would be greatly appreciated by any who might be considering
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Hi everyone,

I have been watching the thread closely, reading all the comments, good, bad and indifferent.

I am about to leave the country and begin flying as an F/O with Skywest. I am not going to get into a debate over pay, conditions or anything else. I will address that quickly now, far as the pay, I have worked hard here in the Australia GA scene and I am in a financial position to be ale to support myself and my partner for the length of my initial Visa. The conditions in America have been assessed and from speaking to multiple people actually over there flying, it is worth the jump over to the US to experience something different. A career in aviation can take you anywhere, why restrict yourself to Australia.

I will just simply make note of a few reasons why I have opted to take up that role over a position here with a regional airline.

Mainly, it was the speed in which Skywest moved with that were the key decision points for me. Here is a timeline comparison between Skywest and the Australian Regional.

Aus Regional
Initial Application - 28/11/2016
Application Inquiry - 1/2/2017
Second Application - 20/2/2017
Interview Invite - 21/3/2017
Interview - 21/4/2017
Successful Interview Notification - 8/5/2017
Hold File Review - 24/8/2017

So thats, 9 months, 6 days without any insight to whether or not I will be actually be starting there.

Enter Skywest.

Skywest (USA)
Initial Application - 6/6/2017
Interview Invite - 7/6/2017
Interview - 13/6/2017 Interview was debriefed and was told I would be recommended for employment.
Job offer - 17/6/2017 I could pick my own start date as soon as 17/7/2017. I opted for 16/9/2017 to give me time to organise my Visa and security checks etc.

So, thats 11 days from initial contact to job offer in hand. There was a lot of small steps that needed to happen between receiving the job offer and now but the airline made it simple and straight forward with constant communication. This whole time, no contact from the Australian Regional.

When it comes down to it, that is the reason I have opted for to try Skywest. From the very beginning I have felt that my experience level and skills have been appreciated and they have made me feel welcome.

Now, yes, some of you may be right, it may all be an act, it may be the worst decision ever. But when you think about it, the worst case scenario is if I don't like it, I return with a +30 tonne jet type rating, experience in that jet with airline operations, I have travelled the US and I can say, at least I tried it. It will be hard work and it will be overwhelming at times.

The adventure is worth the risk I think and as Amelia Earhart once said "the adventure is worthwhile in itself."
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Originally Posted by havick
I personally know of three E3's flying 121 Airlines that were here long before you.

It's not a negative statement about you, it's simply pointing out you weren't the first, and wing be the last. The only person that seems to be making a big deal about allegedly being the first is you.

Not that it matters, who really gives a toss but you?

Facts is E3's will continue to be hired. Everyone is welcome.
Agree'd regarding E3's are coming and welcomed by multiple companies. Why do I give a toss? Because you're full of it and you're attempting to make my statements appear untrue!

At the end of the day, this forum is for those wanting help from those who are willing to offer it. You do not know anyone who was here in the 121 world on the E3 prior to me. Fact! I strongly attest this because I am straight shooter and don't BS! You yourself and many others have stated that they agree with my posts and that what I am saying regarding this visa stream is all correct! What advantage does it have by me being the first? Nothing! What? Pat on the back and a attaboy? I am simply defending this as I have not once lied or BS'd here! But I must say that it is somewhat interesting to see how many people are "attempting" to make me appear as a liar yet luckily enough, the average Australian pilot is smart enough to read between the lines of your BS. I can justify and back up everything I state! Let's see if you can do the same!

What carrier did these so called three E3's join prior to me? And since you are so confident, approximate hire dates! Because you obviously know my hire date because they joined prior to me! Wait, no you don't! Those 3 E3 pilots must all be captains now since they joined before me? Right?

I hate the fact that you are making me look so damn negative! FFS! I'm just here to offer and hand! This is the first time I've use a forum and now I understand why mates told me to stay away!

But hey, way to go! This forum is to answer questions and get in contact with those who can assist others. It's not about me consistently attempting to defend the FACTS!
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HR Interviewer to candidate.... So tell me about a time u had conflict and what was the outcome?
Candidate.... there was this other pilot on pprune who was saying things that sounded a bit arrogant so I bereated and belittled him until he was so upset that he didn't want to talk to me anymore.
HR Interviewer to candidate..... So is this indicative of how you conduct yourself towards another pilot in the cockpit if they were to say something that sounded arrogant?
Candidate.... Don't be ridiculous, of course not.
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It seems to be misunderstood that referral bonuses come from the airline, so why not share the love? Either someone gets it or no one does.

It's a good way to help out the person who helps you.
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Can anyone say, the requirements for A320 / A321 is increasing or no?
as is it worth to get a rating for a Cadet??
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Well done Aus_Phenom100. Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by solomanflyer
Can anyone say, the requirements for A320 / A321 is increasing or no?
as is it worth to get a rating for a Cadet??
As for the A320 operators, I am not aware of any E3 holders getting a shot at anything above the regional level in the US. There are jobs, but all prefer 121 time from within the US. So in the future once E3's try to break into the next level? Possibly. I won't say it's impossible, as people once told me that when I was applying to regionals, and here we are.

Aus_Phenom109, awesome to see. Credit where credit is due. Skywest' HR has got this thing down pat. The good thing is that they have all gone thru specific training and understand the E3. Skywest does have a great name and reputation. They tend to be proactive in their approach, hence being the first airline here with an E3 visa stream/pathway.

Congrats on the new job! Are you on the CRJ or ERJ fleet? Ground school is fast paced compared to what we are use but home, but the instructors hold extra classes if needed. I recommend getting into a study group with say two or three others. You can kind of lean on each other for help and allocate sections of the homework to complete and then get together to share and educate others in your group on the homework sections you competed. This is encouraged and you will be briefed about this method of study once you start ground school. It's an exciting road ahead! I'm sure you will love it! I've found it to be rewarding both financially and personally.

Welcome to the US skies!
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going_up = Aus_Phenom100 ?
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere
Well done Aus_Phenom100. Good luck!!

Thanks mate. Looking forward to getting started.
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