Australian pilots can work for US regionals.
Hang in there with this visa gauntlet. Too many of your countrymen have done it successfully for you to be completely stopped. Sounds like you just fell into the clutches of the wrong bunch of Perfumed Princes of the Kakistocracy.
Seek out a different fiefdom.
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Yeah you're going to get a lot more for your money in the US than you will in Australia Icarus. Why be so negative?
These guys wanted to do something different, don't shit all over them.
Enjoy overseas flying. It'll open your eyes that Australia is difficult only because of all the austronauts.
Some of the easiest pilots to fly with are Mexicans. So laid back, but all the ones I've come across are also very good at their job.
There is a world outside of Australia, ignore everyone else's negativity and go enjoy it.
morno
These guys wanted to do something different, don't shit all over them.
Enjoy overseas flying. It'll open your eyes that Australia is difficult only because of all the austronauts.
Some of the easiest pilots to fly with are Mexicans. So laid back, but all the ones I've come across are also very good at their job.
There is a world outside of Australia, ignore everyone else's negativity and go enjoy it.
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Thanks Bafan,
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
I can't remember if Commutair has been mentioned as an Aussie potential (too lazy to look back to see) in this thread but they're advertising that they take E3s:
"Valid Passport or E-3 Visa"
Pilots | CommutAir
New training center expansion in the works:
http://www.aviationpros.com/press_re...ircraft-growth
"Valid Passport or E-3 Visa"
Pilots | CommutAir
New training center expansion in the works:
http://www.aviationpros.com/press_re...ircraft-growth
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Do you hear much buzz among your colleagues on this subject Down There ? Appreciable number of people willing to take a run at it ?
Here's the AFAP ad. I didn't realize SKW had so many bases:
https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...rst%20Officers
https://www.afap.org.au/pilot-jobs/p...rst%20Officers
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Hi guys,
I hope you are all doing well! I have had a ton of inquiries from Aussie from all around the world asking about SkyWest. I have been with the company just short of two years now and was fortunate enough to be the first E3 visa pilot at any US airline. I cannot speak highly enough of how great my work/lifestyle is with SkyWest for my wife, little one and myself. Feel free to PM with any questions.
Skywest only just placed the ad on AFAP within the last 24 hours. SkyWest are eager to recruit Australian pilots who meet the E3 and FAA ATP requirements. Long story short, you do not need a degree in aviation, but you need 12 years work experience equivalent. How this works? For ever year of tertiary education (CPL, CIR, META, ATPL, etc) equates to 3 years work experience. So lets say you have been working for 6 years, and it took you 2 years of training to obtain your certificates full time, then you meet the requirements. That being said, a degree obviously covers this requirement without any further experience required but the degree must major in aviation. I am more than happy to help look at anyones situation who is looking to join Skywest.
I have already received a fair few guys emails and have contacted them directly. Feel free to give me a shout.
Thanks once again for all those interested!
I hope you are all doing well! I have had a ton of inquiries from Aussie from all around the world asking about SkyWest. I have been with the company just short of two years now and was fortunate enough to be the first E3 visa pilot at any US airline. I cannot speak highly enough of how great my work/lifestyle is with SkyWest for my wife, little one and myself. Feel free to PM with any questions.
Skywest only just placed the ad on AFAP within the last 24 hours. SkyWest are eager to recruit Australian pilots who meet the E3 and FAA ATP requirements. Long story short, you do not need a degree in aviation, but you need 12 years work experience equivalent. How this works? For ever year of tertiary education (CPL, CIR, META, ATPL, etc) equates to 3 years work experience. So lets say you have been working for 6 years, and it took you 2 years of training to obtain your certificates full time, then you meet the requirements. That being said, a degree obviously covers this requirement without any further experience required but the degree must major in aviation. I am more than happy to help look at anyones situation who is looking to join Skywest.
I have already received a fair few guys emails and have contacted them directly. Feel free to give me a shout.
Thanks once again for all those interested!
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Just be aware that going_up gets 5,000 USD per 'successful' referral. He is therefore no better (or worse) then a crewing agent. Probably he should be paying the owners of PPRune for an advertorial each time he posts.
All is not beer and skittles in the US. Buyer beware. Do your homework
All is not beer and skittles in the US. Buyer beware. Do your homework
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Just be aware that going_up gets 5,000 USD per 'successful' referral. He is therefore no better (or worse) then a crewing agent. Probably he should be paying the owners of PPRune for an advertorial each time he posts.
All is not beer and skittles in the US. Buyer beware. Do your homework
All is not beer and skittles in the US. Buyer beware. Do your homework
Do your homework! I only get a referral bonus if you agree that I send you a link and you apply through said link. So there! Full disclosure! That shut you down faster than you could make your morning coffee! Please do your homework as stated from a pilot who is most likely not in the US as he would know off the bat that things in the US are great and that I do not get a referral bonus for anyone that I chat with! Other guys online that are not pessimistic such as "mohikan" feel free to just ask questions about SkyWest. If you apply directly on the website, I CANNOT get any referral bonus, and frankly, it does not bother me. I only get a referral if you first chat with me prior to applying and you apply thru a link I provide you. If you do not want me to earn a little referral cash, no stress. I have still been chatting with heaps of guys that have already applied and not been referred by me. More than happy to help.
mohikan,
Can you tell me what country is all "...beer and skittles..." ? Does this country have air service (I'd prefer going by boat) ? I'd like to go there !
I normally avoid these philosophical "excursions" but let's not pile on going up. I hope he does make a few bucks referring his countrymen. He profits...his proteges profit. I spent 35+ years flying for a living and can tell you a person needs all the help he can get...at every step...and one takes it where he can get it. It's not evil; it's life.
But, other US regionals are also taking E-3s so one can, if so inclined, opt for a non-SKW carrier to punish going up for his avarice.
Capitalism !! It's a good thing. ;-)
Can you tell me what country is all "...beer and skittles..." ? Does this country have air service (I'd prefer going by boat) ? I'd like to go there !
I normally avoid these philosophical "excursions" but let's not pile on going up. I hope he does make a few bucks referring his countrymen. He profits...his proteges profit. I spent 35+ years flying for a living and can tell you a person needs all the help he can get...at every step...and one takes it where he can get it. It's not evil; it's life.
But, other US regionals are also taking E-3s so one can, if so inclined, opt for a non-SKW carrier to punish going up for his avarice.
Capitalism !! It's a good thing. ;-)
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mohikan,
Can you tell me what country is all "...beer and skittles..." ? Does this country have air service (I'd prefer going by boat) ? I'd like to go there !
I normally avoid these philosophical "excursions" but let's not pile on going up. I hope he does make a few bucks referring his countrymen. He profits...his proteges profit. I spent 35+ years flying for a living and can tell you a person needs all the help he can get...at every step...and one takes it where he can get it. It's not evil; it's life.
But, other US regionals are also taking E-3s so one can, if so inclined, opt for a non-SKW carrier to punish going up for his avarice.
Capitalism !! It's a good thing. ;-)
Can you tell me what country is all "...beer and skittles..." ? Does this country have air service (I'd prefer going by boat) ? I'd like to go there !
I normally avoid these philosophical "excursions" but let's not pile on going up. I hope he does make a few bucks referring his countrymen. He profits...his proteges profit. I spent 35+ years flying for a living and can tell you a person needs all the help he can get...at every step...and one takes it where he can get it. It's not evil; it's life.
But, other US regionals are also taking E-3s so one can, if so inclined, opt for a non-SKW carrier to punish going up for his avarice.
Capitalism !! It's a good thing. ;-)
It is true and obvious that other regional are out there, following Skywest in looking at Aussie on the E3 visa. It's a great visa if you are qualified.
I cannot say that Skywest is a answer for everyone, but I can say positively that you won't regret joining Skywest. I attempt to keep neutral and still keep in touch with a guy that went to Piedmont and had his offer rescinded. I'm just happy to help others explore this wonderful opportunity.
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going_up is not "the first Australian pilot to get an E3 visa". There was a QF captain on LOA in the early 'thousands who lived and worked in Alaska on one. I am aware of at least one other also from my time contracting in Europe.
In addition, the only reason Australian pilots are being hired for regional operations is to keep US pilot wages depressed post the introduction of the "1500 hour rule" after Colgan air.
You are effectively scabbing on US pilots. Kid yourself otherwise.
Lastly, the carriers that going_up and others are holding up as shining lights of model employers are notorious for exploiting pilots, pushing safety and maintenance standards, having wafer thin operational resilience and generally operating an negative and toxic business model for the enrichment of executives at the expense of staff. No different to anywhere else.
There is currently massive influence operation by regional airline sponsored lobbyists going on aimed at the US congress at present to get the "1500 hour rule" rescinded.
If that happens, Skywest and others will drop going_up and all other E3s like third grade French.
By all means take whats on offer, listen to going_up and others who are lining their pockets with commissions at your expense, but be in no doubt whats actually going on here and above all have a plan for when the merry go around stops.
How many E3 australian pilots are members of US ALPA I wonder ?
In addition, the only reason Australian pilots are being hired for regional operations is to keep US pilot wages depressed post the introduction of the "1500 hour rule" after Colgan air.
You are effectively scabbing on US pilots. Kid yourself otherwise.
Lastly, the carriers that going_up and others are holding up as shining lights of model employers are notorious for exploiting pilots, pushing safety and maintenance standards, having wafer thin operational resilience and generally operating an negative and toxic business model for the enrichment of executives at the expense of staff. No different to anywhere else.
There is currently massive influence operation by regional airline sponsored lobbyists going on aimed at the US congress at present to get the "1500 hour rule" rescinded.
If that happens, Skywest and others will drop going_up and all other E3s like third grade French.
By all means take whats on offer, listen to going_up and others who are lining their pockets with commissions at your expense, but be in no doubt whats actually going on here and above all have a plan for when the merry go around stops.
How many E3 australian pilots are members of US ALPA I wonder ?
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What he said
What he said
I am an Aussie on E3 and work for Piedmont. It's funny reading all the dicks on here who want to put all the E3 holders down because of whatever were saying. Bottom line is we are all having a ball in our our regionals, earning a livable wage but with great prospects and free jet training, no bonds and a pretty reasonable free flight package. Ive got mates at Skywest and they love it, Ive got a mate at Endeavour and he loves it, I'm at Piedmont and Im enjoying it. Whatever any pilot in Oz thinks we're the ones flying jets with no training bonds and upgrades to captain in about 1 to 2 years. Plus we don't have to deal with any moronic Aussie HR people who keep pissing on Pilots like they are sub human and putting us through hell to get jobs that they then turn around and say we need more pilots for whilst not giving the jobs to us. That's the insane part, not wether one guy wants you to join Skywest because he is or isn't getting a small referral fee. Seriously guys it's so stupid how we continue to have a go at people. Do your own homework and go or don't go but if someone wants to advertise here to go with Skywest because he's getting a referral, let him. People can make up their own minds, christ. Now to clear something up. Piedmont is undergoing massive change so there is now a waiting list up till Dec 17/Jan 18. Piedmont do not have the E3 thing down pat as someone said but they are getting better at it. Skywest on the other hand is proficient at E3's. PDT is transitioning to a jet fleet where as Skywest has it down pat, hence one of the reasons PDT is slow in training as tprop guys need to also be trained on the jet. The pay at PDT is a minimum of $60k US, which includes bonus but in your second year you also get a FO bonus or you upgrade and get the captains wage plus a bonus, so ur wage goes up. When you figure out the system captains are earning $100k+US easily, some $150k here. So, if you're an Aussie and you want to stay in Oz and keep arguing the finer points of what one of the US/Oz pilots are saying, just don't. Do your own research, let people say what they want to say and just move on for gods sake.
