Toilet Breaks
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I heard a bean counting pen pusher suggest a cork and rope kit for the pilots!
Might need to stay off the curry and stop drinking before flight, just like the bad old days.
Might need to stay off the curry and stop drinking before flight, just like the bad old days.
Can anyone provide a reference or link to this "rule".
I understood the Australian carriers agreed to implement this practice voluntarily, but have not seen any reference to a ruling on it.
I understood the Australian carriers agreed to implement this practice voluntarily, but have not seen any reference to a ruling on it.
And you can get the aircraft into an unrecoverable position in far less time than it takes for the other Pilot to get back from the toilet and the FA to open the door.
In fact it can be done with the other Pilot sitting at the controls. There is no improvement in safety at all, possibly only a detriment.
Why get annoyed about it? Because it is just another mindless knee jerk B*ll**** inconvenience dreamt up in the name of security by those who have no idea!
In fact it can be done with the other Pilot sitting at the controls. There is no improvement in safety at all, possibly only a detriment.
Why get annoyed about it? Because it is just another mindless knee jerk B*ll**** inconvenience dreamt up in the name of security by those who have no idea!
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To me it seems that the whole point of this new `regulation` is merely the old excercise of `We have to be seen to be doing something by the greater Public to ensure that such a thing cannot happen again.`
I suspect that the greater Public will buy it as well.
LeeJoyce; I once did something very similar to that, but in a Glider.
An Open Libelle to be exact.
`Twere`nt easy!
I suspect that the greater Public will buy it as well.
LeeJoyce; I once did something very similar to that, but in a Glider.
An Open Libelle to be exact.`Twere`nt easy!
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Metro Man ..."I need to be chaperoned by a flight attendant young enough to be my child."
Mate, i can assure you there is nothing more painful then being forced to stop our job to go and babysit one of you then sit there and do small talk.
Many of your social skills lack considerably.
Mate, i can assure you there is nothing more painful then being forced to stop our job to go and babysit one of you then sit there and do small talk.
Many of your social skills lack considerably.
Many of your social skills lack considerably.
If you want to see my social skills it'll have to be a social setting, like at the bar
We have to be seen to be doing something by the greater Public to ensure that such a thing cannot happen again.
Why not address the real issue of having a 600 hr so called Pilot sitting at a control seat of a high capacity Jet. In this particular case.....a 600hr so called Pilot with a history of mental health issues!
I am not aware of anything being done to address the real threat and I am sure the travelling public would feel a lot more comfortable if it was.
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I am not aware of anything being done to address the real threat and I am sure the travelling public would feel a lot more comfortable if it was.
Cynical? Who....me????
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If an airline can't trust its own pilots by enforcing a rule that in all practicality doesn't achieve/prevent anything, then best not to use that airline. Who wants to fly with schitzo airlines anyway.
But isn't this what you get when you let the psychos run the HR department.
But isn't this what you get when you let the psychos run the HR department.
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I think the issue should not be how we have to handle toilet breaks. BTW my company always required a F/A to cover the seat of the pilot who takes a leak, and am happy with it.
The issue is rather who is allowed these days to be at the controls of a big airliner. Being very young/inexperienced, like this 600hrs German, does not produce a long list of references/reputation an employer could take advantage of before hiring someone. Yes one may pass all tests for a flight license, but we all know that pilots nature is quite good in hiding problems.
Just my 2 cents..
The issue is rather who is allowed these days to be at the controls of a big airliner. Being very young/inexperienced, like this 600hrs German, does not produce a long list of references/reputation an employer could take advantage of before hiring someone. Yes one may pass all tests for a flight license, but we all know that pilots nature is quite good in hiding problems.
Just my 2 cents..
Thanks to that idiot German Wings F/O the powers that be have decided that I can't be left alone on the flight deck while the copilot takes a leak, I need to be chaperoned by a flight attendant young enough to be my child.
Furthermore, as the toilet visit procedure is so involved, requiring the blocking off of the lavatory and attendance of another F/A in the forward galley I find it simpler to have a dual visit for both pilots, one after the other should either one require a break.
I've made quite a few bathroom breaks which I didn't really need, simply because the whole rigmarole is such a pain it's not worth it just for one person.
Anyone else finding the same ?
Furthermore, as the toilet visit procedure is so involved, requiring the blocking off of the lavatory and attendance of another F/A in the forward galley I find it simpler to have a dual visit for both pilots, one after the other should either one require a break.
I've made quite a few bathroom breaks which I didn't really need, simply because the whole rigmarole is such a pain it's not worth it just for one person.
Anyone else finding the same ?
Reminds me of a situation I found myself in a few weeks ago...
Here I was, back of the clock sharing a dark cockpit with yet another whinging Captain, regaling me of his many tales of how hard it was back in the day.
On and on he went.
Then suddenly he went silent.
Stiffened in his seat, eyes wide, I thought he had mistaken Venus for a bogie again and I was guarding the controls expecting him to disconnect the autopilot but alas, it was just his prostrate playing up again and to my relief he just wanted to go back and drain the main vein.
So up came the cabin supervisor, there was a slightly awkward shuffle as he attempted to slip past her lithe form without blushing. But in the faint blue light of the rising moon I could see the red spider veins on his cheek glow in embarrassment as his body pressed past her in his haste to get to the toilet before he pissed his pants.
And there I was. Alone. With my brunette beauty. Her hazel eyes sparkled in the starlight as we gazed at each other.
Finally we had got rid of the old complaining ****w!t and the night sky was ours as we hurtled forwards at greater than 900 kms/hr.
But our time alone was short lived as he mumbled and groaned back into the flight deck, pants wet with piss and complaining about German wings.
Later that night, as he held court in the hotel bar telling everyone how awesome the water injection was in the Metroliner, I winked at my beauty and we relived our precious moments alone in the sky.
So yes, Metro Man.... please keep taking those toilet breaks
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After a company decision, we are no longer allowed to take a leak whilst airborne.
Mind you, we never had a toilet....
Mind you, we never had a toilet....
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Hi Metro-gnome maybe you could send all your mates greeting cards you have gotten that big promotion and you are now a Second officer..... Well done young fella. They will not understand that you have been "helped" by a murderer.
mmmm the harbour smells, lovely...
mmmm the harbour smells, lovely...
Compylot....
Very funny post.... You have missed your calling. Such observational excellence - I really felt like I was there (oh hang on, I have been
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Thanks for the belly laugh
Very funny post.... You have missed your calling. Such observational excellence - I really felt like I was there (oh hang on, I have been
)Thanks for the belly laugh