MERGED: Alan's still not happy......
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Yawn.....
The federal treasurer has urged Toyota workers in light of the Holden announcement to 'accept a new wage deal'......
A tune that is going to be played more than the national anthem in 2014.
Can anybody take a pot shot at what will come out of the ACTU meeting next week. Come on, give it a crack.........
A tune that is going to be played more than the national anthem in 2014.
Can anybody take a pot shot at what will come out of the ACTU meeting next week. Come on, give it a crack.........
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A tune that is going to be played more than the national anthem in 2014.
Free House, free private school fees, free medical even if you paid tax on your income you would still be in front.
It is ridiculous that you can go overseas and make more money than in Australia yet we're over paid....
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Another Novel idea....
If Alan doesn't like the conditions, taxes and politics of having to run a company in Australia. Just leave!
Go back to Ireland! Stop ya whinning, just leave the company. Someone else will pick up the pieces and make something of it.
If Alan doesn't like the conditions, taxes and politics of having to run a company in Australia. Just leave!
Go back to Ireland! Stop ya whinning, just leave the company. Someone else will pick up the pieces and make something of it.
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The (Labor) Button Car Plan was the start of the problems for the Automotive Industry. Currently each worker is subsidised to the tune of $50,000 by taxpayers. The Carbon Tax was just another impost.
The Labor Government Deregulation of the Airline Industry was the start of the problems for Ansett, Australian Airlines and Qantas as reported in The Australian on 10 Dec 13.
The (Labor) Button Car Plan was the start of the problems for the Automotive Industry. Currently each worker is subsidised to the tune of $50,000 by taxpayers. The Carbon Tax was just another impost.
The Labor Government Deregulation of the Airline Industry was the start of the problems for Ansett, Australian Airlines and Qantas as reported in The Australian on 10 Dec 13.
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I have bought several new Commodores since the 1990's, my last being in 2011.
I will tell you the problem - they are a pile of ****. Each model I have bought since 2007 has gotten worse. The quality in my opinion is now absolute ****e, and quite simply they are not worth the money. Add on top of that the ridiculous fuel costs including the governments $0.45 per litre extortion that goes into their greedy pocket, the daylight robbery rego costs for a 6 and 8 cylinder (again you can blame the thieving state governments for their greed), and throw into the mix the spiralling insurance costs courtesy of corporate greedy insurance companies and you soon see why Holden is in trouble, everybody wants their greedy big slice of the pie, and the average Aussie battler is now basically saying 'we can't afford a Commodore anymore, stick it up your ass'. Instead we can buy a small to medium 4 cylinder Mazda or Toyota, cheaper, with better quality. And as for the Holden Cruze, my god, another complete piece of crap.
In part, Holden has screwed Holden, just as Qantas has screwed Qantas. Both companies had a quality product AND were making money, but in typical fashion they got greedy, severed the quality of the product while increasing prices until they reached the point where Joe Public said 'no more, you can get stuffed, I'm going elsewhere'. Greedy executive parasites are to blame for most of these companies woes.
I will tell you the problem - they are a pile of ****. Each model I have bought since 2007 has gotten worse. The quality in my opinion is now absolute ****e, and quite simply they are not worth the money. Add on top of that the ridiculous fuel costs including the governments $0.45 per litre extortion that goes into their greedy pocket, the daylight robbery rego costs for a 6 and 8 cylinder (again you can blame the thieving state governments for their greed), and throw into the mix the spiralling insurance costs courtesy of corporate greedy insurance companies and you soon see why Holden is in trouble, everybody wants their greedy big slice of the pie, and the average Aussie battler is now basically saying 'we can't afford a Commodore anymore, stick it up your ass'. Instead we can buy a small to medium 4 cylinder Mazda or Toyota, cheaper, with better quality. And as for the Holden Cruze, my god, another complete piece of crap.
In part, Holden has screwed Holden, just as Qantas has screwed Qantas. Both companies had a quality product AND were making money, but in typical fashion they got greedy, severed the quality of the product while increasing prices until they reached the point where Joe Public said 'no more, you can get stuffed, I'm going elsewhere'. Greedy executive parasites are to blame for most of these companies woes.
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Well all I can say after listening to the claptrap tonight on every channel, it would appear after thirteen weeks in Govt. Abbott has somehow managed to destroy the entire car industry. I don't want to even imagine if QF gets to this, what will happen. Shorten and Abbott have each other by the throat, pandamonium in the parliament, tears, hysteria, sobbing staff interviewed, flashbacks to the days when QF was earning a quid, and got to keep it, old retirees wheeled out in their stupor, and tell how it used to be, footage of aircraft that they get wrong every time, old former CEO's wheeled out (it would never have happened, under my watch) and the camera zooming in on Longreach, and Winton, where the residents are in shock. For this reason alone we cannot allow it to happen, we would never recover, the media would make sure of that. Just imagine turning up for work, with the slides on, and being bailed up against the fence by forty journo's asking you how you feel? The white faces in the AIPA, and the Transport union, it would make 89 look like a Salvation Army prayer night. And to think we have Toyota to go yet, before QF looks down the barrel.
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Paragraph, you only have to look at the supermarket car park, to see five SUV's to every car, some of them more suitable for use in Afghanistan as bomb disposal units, rather than for the young mums and little old ladies that get around in them. My own kids get around in these monsters, and probably have not sat in a actual car for years. One even had the hide to ask me for my small aging puddle jumper, for a airport car, and left me with something that I would have previously put a uniform on to operate. It comes complete with kids car seats, with the busted biscuits intact, and the dripping water bottle, Videos of Shawn The Sheep, backing instructions, a radio that required a rocket scientist to work, ditto the air conditioning, and chews up fuel like the 400, does not fit into a normal supermarket car space, and requires a Fox to get it out. And all their friends drive the same thing. I think Holden should have looked around the supermarket carpacks first, before they decided to keep making cars.
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Para -
"In part, Holden has screwed Holden, just as Qantas has screwed Qantas. Both companies had a quality product AND were making money, but in typical fashion they got greedy, severed the quality of the product while increasing prices until they reached the point where Joe Public said 'no more, you can get stuffed, I'm going elsewhere'. Greedy executive parasites are to blame for most of these companies woes."
........and when the greed starts to fail it becomes Labour cost / Unions / Labor / internet shopping etc etc. ..... ....but heard it all before.....
watched it over again...
"In part, Holden has screwed Holden, just as Qantas has screwed Qantas. Both companies had a quality product AND were making money, but in typical fashion they got greedy, severed the quality of the product while increasing prices until they reached the point where Joe Public said 'no more, you can get stuffed, I'm going elsewhere'. Greedy executive parasites are to blame for most of these companies woes."
........and when the greed starts to fail it becomes Labour cost / Unions / Labor / internet shopping etc etc. .....
....but heard it all before..... watched it over again...
How the hell can Qaintass be loosing money. I am a frequent traveler with them and they are always full, even on flights i thought would be quiet there are very few spare seats.
I read a report a few years ago that said Quaintass subsidise JetStar to the tune of MILLIONS every year on things like
1) Quaintass pay for ALL J* check-in rentals at the airports
2) ALL Quaintass flights have to give J* free cargo
The list went on and on and was very disturbing
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I read a report a few years ago that said Quaintass subsidise JetStar to the tune of MILLIONS every year on things like
1) Quaintass pay for ALL J* check-in rentals at the airports
2) ALL Quaintass flights have to give J* free cargo
The list went on and on and was very disturbing
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There is no way the old Govt is going hand out cash without a catch.
Lets say the company can show savings of $10Million a week and is willing to sign an ongoing weekly disclosure and commitment with the Govt, there will be no handout.
The problem is to the average punter both products are not that far apart, so throwing extra seats on is not going to increase profits.
The only other option is to reduce costs, cut once and cut deep...
Now there are many options, it will be interesting what the chosen option is.
Unfortunately I think there will be no cuts just a sale and lease back of frames which will put the rot off for say 12 months.
Lets say the company can show savings of $10Million a week and is willing to sign an ongoing weekly disclosure and commitment with the Govt, there will be no handout.
The problem is to the average punter both products are not that far apart, so throwing extra seats on is not going to increase profits.
The only other option is to reduce costs, cut once and cut deep...
Now there are many options, it will be interesting what the chosen option is.
Unfortunately I think there will be no cuts just a sale and lease back of frames which will put the rot off for say 12 months.
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The only other option is to reduce costs, cut once and cut deep…
Yes and the sooner the better, out source the semi-skilled labour force and sell non core assets is a good start...
Yes and the sooner the better, out source the semi-skilled labour force and sell non core assets is a good start...
short flights long nights
Things have seemed to have gone eerily quiet from Qantas HQ, considering a week ago the sky was falling in.
IATA forecast solid growth
The emerging economies of Asia-Pacific (APAC) and the Middle East will witness the most robust international passenger growth over the next five years, according to the latest industry forecast.
The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has released its Airline Industry Forecast 2013-2017, revealing global airlines expect total passenger numbers to rise to 3.91 billion by 2017.
These forecasts represent a 31 percent increase in passenger numbers between 2012 and 2017, with APAC and Middle East carriers enjoying above average compound annual growth rates (CAGR).
Routes within or connected to China will experience the single greatest overall passenger growth, accounting for 24 percent of new passenger between 2013 and 2017.
The United States will remain the largest single market for domestic travellers, despite only adding 70 million passengers over the forecast period at a CAGR of 2.2 percent, up to 677.8 million.
The US will also reclaim its title, surpassing Germany, for most international passengers by 2017.
“The fact that the Asia-Pacific region – led by China – and the Middle East will deliver the strongest growth over the forecast period is not surprising,” IATA director general and chief executive Tony Tyler said.
“Similar opportunities exist for developing regions in Africa and Latin America… to reap the benefit, governments in those regions will need to change their view of aviation from a luxury cash cow to a utilitarian powerful draft horse to pull the economy forward.”
The emerging economies of Asia-Pacific (APAC) and the Middle East will witness the most robust international passenger growth over the next five years, according to the latest industry forecast.
The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has released its Airline Industry Forecast 2013-2017, revealing global airlines expect total passenger numbers to rise to 3.91 billion by 2017.
These forecasts represent a 31 percent increase in passenger numbers between 2012 and 2017, with APAC and Middle East carriers enjoying above average compound annual growth rates (CAGR).
Routes within or connected to China will experience the single greatest overall passenger growth, accounting for 24 percent of new passenger between 2013 and 2017.
The United States will remain the largest single market for domestic travellers, despite only adding 70 million passengers over the forecast period at a CAGR of 2.2 percent, up to 677.8 million.
The US will also reclaim its title, surpassing Germany, for most international passengers by 2017.
“The fact that the Asia-Pacific region – led by China – and the Middle East will deliver the strongest growth over the forecast period is not surprising,” IATA director general and chief executive Tony Tyler said.
“Similar opportunities exist for developing regions in Africa and Latin America… to reap the benefit, governments in those regions will need to change their view of aviation from a luxury cash cow to a utilitarian powerful draft horse to pull the economy forward.”
Routes within or connected to China will experience the single greatest overall passenger growth,
So AJ:
- will you replace the daily Shanghai A330 flights with an A380 to get into this growth?
- or will you simply give the route to JQ?
The United States will remain the largest single market for domestic travellers
So AJ:
- If the JQ franchise/methodology is so great, have you spoken to your North American partner AA about introducing the same into that market?
- Or have they just
and got on with running their airline?