Dallas Dispute - Qantas Crew stood down.
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One of the current fleet managers, when he was an FO, "resolved" a dispute with a known difficult captain by walking off the flight deck and proceeding up the aero-bridge. It worked a treat. He only got half way before the captain realised his bluff had been called and raced after him to apologise.
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Can anyone share the initials of the S/O in a PM? Have an old friend who fits the description, and would certainly speak up in this situation if necessary, just concerned for his employment and no longer have his phone number to give him a call.
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Sadly by some of these posts proffesionalism seems to be the loser,Does it really matter who is right or wrong?
What matters is any flight crew/cabin crew should be able to raise a safety concern and have it addressed before flight.
Shame on he is a nice bloke/he is a pr*&k posters.you werent there.
What matters is any flight crew/cabin crew should be able to raise a safety concern and have it addressed before flight.
Shame on he is a nice bloke/he is a pr*&k posters.you werent there.
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Qantas Pilots Suspended After....
AFP. 21/08/12....Australia’s Qantas Airways said Tuesday it had suspended two pilots after they were reportedly involved in a heated argument in the cockpit of their Boeing 747 at Dallas airport.
The Sydney Morning Herald said the captain and second officer on the 747-400 due to make a long-haul flight to Brisbane last week were told they could not fly after disagreeing about the take-off calculations they needed to use.
“A captain and second officer have been withheld from service pending an investigation,” a Qantas spokeswoman told Agence France-Presse, without providing further details.
But Qantas said the flight was delayed by severe weather, not because of any altercation.
“Qantas flight QF8 from Dallas/Fort Worth to Brisbane on 14 August was delayed overnight as a result of severe thunderstorms in the Dallas area,” the spokeswoman said.
The flight subsequently left on August 15, reportedly after replacement pilots were brought in.
The Herald said the original pilots were close to hitting their 20-hour duty limits because of earlier weather delays, and that Qantas managers heard of their argument after bringing in the relief crew.
The incident comes just weeks after a Qantas pilot was suspended pending an investigation after she failed an alcohol test.
The pilot was removed from a passenger flight due to travel from Sydney to Brisbane just minutes before take-off over concerns she had been drinking.
Qantas has a strong reputation for safety, with the Australian flag-carrier never experiencing a fatal crash in the jet age.
Agence France-Presse
The Sydney Morning Herald said the captain and second officer on the 747-400 due to make a long-haul flight to Brisbane last week were told they could not fly after disagreeing about the take-off calculations they needed to use.
“A captain and second officer have been withheld from service pending an investigation,” a Qantas spokeswoman told Agence France-Presse, without providing further details.
But Qantas said the flight was delayed by severe weather, not because of any altercation.
“Qantas flight QF8 from Dallas/Fort Worth to Brisbane on 14 August was delayed overnight as a result of severe thunderstorms in the Dallas area,” the spokeswoman said.
The flight subsequently left on August 15, reportedly after replacement pilots were brought in.
The Herald said the original pilots were close to hitting their 20-hour duty limits because of earlier weather delays, and that Qantas managers heard of their argument after bringing in the relief crew.
The incident comes just weeks after a Qantas pilot was suspended pending an investigation after she failed an alcohol test.
The pilot was removed from a passenger flight due to travel from Sydney to Brisbane just minutes before take-off over concerns she had been drinking.
Qantas has a strong reputation for safety, with the Australian flag-carrier never experiencing a fatal crash in the jet age.
Agence France-Presse
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Originally Posted by griffin one
Shame on he is a nice bloke/he is a pr*&k posters.you werent there.
I shall be far more sparing in my compliments in future. Perhaps then I can aspire to become one of these people we always talk about.
To get to the point where it is a full on yelling match
Doesn't matter who was right or wrong in this sort of situation. Good on the SO for speaking up if he felt something was being done incorrectly.
Too many assumptions on here and already the propoganda is saying Capt Bad but SO good.
I think I might wait for more information.
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Was sent this link this evening, don't know if it's of any relevance so caveats apply.
QF8 scheduled departure time is 21:55 LT
North Texas thunderstorm system weakening but may linger awhile | Dallas-Fort Worth Local Breaking News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News
QF8 scheduled departure time is 21:55 LT
North Texas thunderstorm system weakening but may linger awhile | Dallas-Fort Worth Local Breaking News - News for Dallas, Texas - The Dallas Morning News
Six pages about a delayed flight. I don't think there will be enough bandwidth available if something serious was to happen.
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A Second Officer arguing with a Captain is interesting. Quite a few of the Second Officers are ex-Ansett pilots with many thousands of hours before Qantas, so wouldn't necessarily be brow beaten by a Captain ... one wonders, at least.