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Aww guys...come on...who damaged A330 VH-XFD and who damaged VH-YFC????
You are all hell bent on making JHAS out to be the bad guys but you cannot comment on who damaged VH-XFD or VH-YFC?
You all make out JHAS to be the bad place. But your operations department deliberately deliver the aircraft late and expect a full V-check/A check to be completed before an 6am departure.
When was the last time Virgin Tech accepted an B737 at 0100hrs in the Melbourne hangars with full flight control lubes, all landing gear lubes, elevator tab inspections, full engine tasks, Boro scope, eco wash (on same engine as boro) and then have an 0600hrs departure? WITH NO DEFERRALS?
Now I know Virgin Tech are allowed to bring in ALG hire to carry out lubes, but JHAS is not.
Like it has been noted before, we know other operators make mistakes, but if it happens at JHAS it gets blasted all over the internet. If it happens at Virgin or Jetstar, this forum is very very quiet.
VSV actuator becoming disconnected in flight...anyone want to comment???
You are all hell bent on making JHAS out to be the bad guys but you cannot comment on who damaged VH-XFD or VH-YFC?
You all make out JHAS to be the bad place. But your operations department deliberately deliver the aircraft late and expect a full V-check/A check to be completed before an 6am departure.
When was the last time Virgin Tech accepted an B737 at 0100hrs in the Melbourne hangars with full flight control lubes, all landing gear lubes, elevator tab inspections, full engine tasks, Boro scope, eco wash (on same engine as boro) and then have an 0600hrs departure? WITH NO DEFERRALS?
Now I know Virgin Tech are allowed to bring in ALG hire to carry out lubes, but JHAS is not.
Like it has been noted before, we know other operators make mistakes, but if it happens at JHAS it gets blasted all over the internet. If it happens at Virgin or Jetstar, this forum is very very quiet.
VSV actuator becoming disconnected in flight...anyone want to comment???
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When was the last time Virgin Tech accepted an B737 at 0100hrs in the Melbourne hangars with full flight control lubes, all landing gear lubes, elevator tab inspections, full engine tasks, Boro scope, eco wash (on same engine as boro) and then have an 0600hrs departure? WITH NO DEFERRALS?
Totally unreasonable and unrealistic to expect this sort/amount of work to occur in the given time frame. Question is, is this being accepted by the MRO or expected by the operator, either way totally in-achievable in the given time frame.
If the MRO is expected to turn the aircraft around in this time frame or face consequences by the operator then the MRO should have the knackers to report them to CASA.
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Yea shur we'll do you're widebody transits for 20 bucks 
Having worked in a certain Aussie 3rd party maintainance establishment a few years ago, I found the morale was on the floor, they move you around the country like a piece of furniture and expect you to work slip shifts and all sorts of crazy hours. People seemed very unhappy. At the time QF seemed to be like fort knox to get into, and probably even harder now, unless perhaps you want to work on little dash 8's. I really hope the industry picks up in Oz, but it seems like a race to the bottom at the moment.
Having worked in a certain Aussie 3rd party maintainance establishment a few years ago, I found the morale was on the floor, they move you around the country like a piece of furniture and expect you to work slip shifts and all sorts of crazy hours. People seemed very unhappy. At the time QF seemed to be like fort knox to get into, and probably even harder now, unless perhaps you want to work on little dash 8's. I really hope the industry picks up in Oz, but it seems like a race to the bottom at the moment.
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Namely because we have allowed EASA license holders to transition to Australia (one way street) with all the ratings, create their little empires and shaft all the T & C's. Now I'll be called racist for writing the truth. Why do we allow this to happen?
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Namely because we have allowed EASA license holders to transition to Australia (one way street) with all the ratings, create their little empires and shaft all the T & C's. Now I'll be called racist for writing the truth. Why do we allow this to happen?
Mind you that some to arrive the hard, long way with honest intentions and may not even have a nice LAME job despite having licenses.
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Bumphof, Push back from the MRO? no idea....
By the time JHAS management comes in to work in the mornings nightshift has done its talking with the operators maint watch and the plane is delivered and departed on its revenue flights.
I know for quite a few times the operator has had MEL's drop dead on arrival and demand the MEL defect to be rectified, but the operator fails to deliver the parts (or sends them to the wrong part of australia), then in the mornings when the aircraft is still inside JHAS hangar, JHAS gets the blame for it!!
The operators are very happy to blame JHAS for all sorts of issues, and guys here on the internet are happy to bag JHAS in the same way, but when its the operators stuff up, oh no.... its so so quiet!!!
Disconnected VSV actuator in flight, inflight shut down, any one want to comment???? Anyone want to try to blame JHAS for that? (I know that operator tried too, but when they checked their records...it all went quiet again!!!)
By the time JHAS management comes in to work in the mornings nightshift has done its talking with the operators maint watch and the plane is delivered and departed on its revenue flights.
I know for quite a few times the operator has had MEL's drop dead on arrival and demand the MEL defect to be rectified, but the operator fails to deliver the parts (or sends them to the wrong part of australia), then in the mornings when the aircraft is still inside JHAS hangar, JHAS gets the blame for it!!
The operators are very happy to blame JHAS for all sorts of issues, and guys here on the internet are happy to bag JHAS in the same way, but when its the operators stuff up, oh no.... its so so quiet!!!
Disconnected VSV actuator in flight, inflight shut down, any one want to comment???? Anyone want to try to blame JHAS for that? (I know that operator tried too, but when they checked their records...it all went quiet again!!!)
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aintsaying,
on the contrary, I'm bagging the operators here.
Know some people at JHAS and have an understanding of the pressures and constraints that the guys and gals work under in relation to customer operators,
I believe that JHAS do a sterling job, all things considered.
My point is where is the regulator when these "situations" occur???
on the contrary, I'm bagging the operators here.
Know some people at JHAS and have an understanding of the pressures and constraints that the guys and gals work under in relation to customer operators,
I believe that JHAS do a sterling job, all things considered.
My point is where is the regulator when these "situations" occur???
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Where are the regulators?
In bed sound asleep.
In true management style.
As for MRO reporting to regulator about: aircraft late arrival/ added last minute tasks/ refusal to allow deferrals - I doubt it.
JHAS had a lot of good guys on the hangar floor go thru their doors, and even less good management guys go thru those doors too.
And now the last remaining few are about to exit out those hangar doors as well.
Then some where between March and May 2014, even more guys will be walking out the line maintenance doors on the east and west coasts.
In bed sound asleep.
In true management style.
As for MRO reporting to regulator about: aircraft late arrival/ added last minute tasks/ refusal to allow deferrals - I doubt it.
JHAS had a lot of good guys on the hangar floor go thru their doors, and even less good management guys go thru those doors too.
And now the last remaining few are about to exit out those hangar doors as well.
Then some where between March and May 2014, even more guys will be walking out the line maintenance doors on the east and west coasts.
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Yep its true. most of them will be off shift this friday if not already off shift.
apparently its an accumulation of the Ansett boys over at Korr now. The LH's are picking their buddys.
The JHAS guys will not be part of the 787 group.
Its going to be a happy environment there, described as an "Qantas/Forstaff" relationship on the floor. Us/them attitude.
apparently its an accumulation of the Ansett boys over at Korr now. The LH's are picking their buddys.
The JHAS guys will not be part of the 787 group.
Its going to be a happy environment there, described as an "Qantas/Forstaff" relationship on the floor. Us/them attitude.
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From what I have been told this is correct...1. resignation with 30+ names on it...Happy new year...
It appears that Korr will be doing the "A" checks and "overflow" work that JHAS has lost..But on a brighter note the "rumour" is that the B737 work will be back at JHAS...I guess that the extended intervals between"H" checks has "Run out"..and the boys who are "presently working" in the donga's will be back !!
From what I have been told this is correct...1. resignation with 30+ names on it...Happy new year...
It appears that Korr will be doing the "A" checks and "overflow" work that JHAS has lost..But on a brighter note the "rumour" is that the B737 work will be back at JHAS...I guess that the extended intervals between"H" checks has "Run out"..and the boys who are "presently working" in the donga's will be back !!