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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 00:17
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Porchie.....I think that you are barking up a empty tree....But I will let the refueller know ..
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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 08:17
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Wrong tree huh? Don't think so boys. The damage speaks for itself.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 04:12
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Genuine incident reports or "I heard from a reputable source..." type stuff.

One thing we continuously faced at JHAS were bogus quality claims that simply weren't true. Not going to say no quality events ever occurred but certainly not as many as the detractors like to claim.

As with everything, there's two sides to the quality story at JHAS.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 04:50
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A 737 with a tug ?? Want to see the piccies ?? A colourfull character !!
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 05:47
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Would be a brave call to say it hasn't happened at every known maintenance facility...
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:06
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spot on ltm.

but it got very tiring when talking to senior airline execs who had been fed some of the most absurd stories I have ever heard.

"She turned me into a newt" wouldn't have been out of place on occasions...
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:29
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Vum Vum. Can this tug go any faster?
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 05:15
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Well does anyone know who damaged VH-XFD or VH-YFC? I'm asking to find out who did that damage.

Heaven forbid if it was only JHAS who makes mistakes in aviation.....

Wont be long before JHAS is complicated in jetstars tail being struck off by an B737 winglet, due to that aircraft just being in the JHAS hangars waiting for repair.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 23:00
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Aww guys...come on...who damaged A330 VH-XFD and who damaged VH-YFC????

You are all hell bent on making JHAS out to be the bad guys but you cannot comment on who damaged VH-XFD or VH-YFC?


You all make out JHAS to be the bad place. But your operations department deliberately deliver the aircraft late and expect a full V-check/A check to be completed before an 6am departure.

When was the last time Virgin Tech accepted an B737 at 0100hrs in the Melbourne hangars with full flight control lubes, all landing gear lubes, elevator tab inspections, full engine tasks, Boro scope, eco wash (on same engine as boro) and then have an 0600hrs departure? WITH NO DEFERRALS?

Now I know Virgin Tech are allowed to bring in ALG hire to carry out lubes, but JHAS is not.

Like it has been noted before, we know other operators make mistakes, but if it happens at JHAS it gets blasted all over the internet. If it happens at Virgin or Jetstar, this forum is very very quiet.

VSV actuator becoming disconnected in flight...anyone want to comment???
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 10:01
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When was the last time Virgin Tech accepted an B737 at 0100hrs in the Melbourne hangars with full flight control lubes, all landing gear lubes, elevator tab inspections, full engine tasks, Boro scope, eco wash (on same engine as boro) and then have an 0600hrs departure? WITH NO DEFERRALS?
If this is the case then where is the "push back" to the operator by the MRO?

Totally unreasonable and unrealistic to expect this sort/amount of work to occur in the given time frame. Question is, is this being accepted by the MRO or expected by the operator, either way totally in-achievable in the given time frame.

If the MRO is expected to turn the aircraft around in this time frame or face consequences by the operator then the MRO should have the knackers to report them to CASA.
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 11:05
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that's funny bumpfoh.
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 16:57
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Yea shur we'll do you're widebody transits for 20 bucks

Having worked in a certain Aussie 3rd party maintainance establishment a few years ago, I found the morale was on the floor, they move you around the country like a piece of furniture and expect you to work slip shifts and all sorts of crazy hours. People seemed very unhappy. At the time QF seemed to be like fort knox to get into, and probably even harder now, unless perhaps you want to work on little dash 8's. I really hope the industry picks up in Oz, but it seems like a race to the bottom at the moment.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 00:26
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Namely because we have allowed EASA license holders to transition to Australia (one way street) with all the ratings, create their little empires and shaft all the T & C's. Now I'll be called racist for writing the truth. Why do we allow this to happen?
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 05:04
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that's funny bumpfoh.
In the sense that CASA would no doubt do SFA about it and the operator knows this too darn well!
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Old 30th Oct 2013, 02:58
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Namely because we have allowed EASA license holders to transition to Australia (one way street) with all the ratings, create their little empires and shaft all the T & C's. Now I'll be called racist for writing the truth. Why do we allow this to happen?
Well it's no longer on the SOL (shortage list), that is I can't find it anymore.

Mind you that some to arrive the hard, long way with honest intentions and may not even have a nice LAME job despite having licenses.
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Old 30th Oct 2013, 06:59
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I really hope the industry picks up in Oz, but it seems like a race to the bottom at the moment.
From all reports, AMSA is there waiting for you!
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Old 30th Oct 2013, 07:06
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Namely because we have allowed EASA license holders to transition to Australia (one way street) with all the ratings, create their little empires and shaft all the T & C's. Now I'll be called racist for writing the truth. Why do we allow this to happen?
Because we're a European colony perhaps! We're just a bunch of outcasts sent away to dig holes. And yes we've done a pretty good job of it but lets not get to carried away about our position in the world.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 04:21
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Bumphof, Push back from the MRO? no idea....
By the time JHAS management comes in to work in the mornings nightshift has done its talking with the operators maint watch and the plane is delivered and departed on its revenue flights.
I know for quite a few times the operator has had MEL's drop dead on arrival and demand the MEL defect to be rectified, but the operator fails to deliver the parts (or sends them to the wrong part of australia), then in the mornings when the aircraft is still inside JHAS hangar, JHAS gets the blame for it!!

The operators are very happy to blame JHAS for all sorts of issues, and guys here on the internet are happy to bag JHAS in the same way, but when its the operators stuff up, oh no.... its so so quiet!!!

Disconnected VSV actuator in flight, inflight shut down, any one want to comment???? Anyone want to try to blame JHAS for that? (I know that operator tried too, but when they checked their records...it all went quiet again!!!)
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 06:30
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I know where the locknut is ...!! I believe a JHAS Engineer found it when they were "bagging" the engine..
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 08:32
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Just out of interest, is 'God' Watson still working there?
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