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It is almost as if the prime objective is to drive the share price down. Surely QF must be getting very very attractive to asset strippers! That is where the real danger is in my opinion.
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I think the reports this morning of AJ claiming that the union leaders are 'talking down and denigrating the brand" is insulting at best. Even I, as SLF (and SunFish, I don't take offense at that) know that that's exactly what AJ has been doing himself for at least the last 6 months.
FacePprune is backfiring on QF yesterday and today, this may be a tipping point, I think....
FacePprune is backfiring on QF yesterday and today, this may be a tipping point, I think....
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Ok, let's look at this a bit more without some of the Qantas Management and AJ bashing....
Qantas may be losing a lot of money internationally and without all the figures that we don't have access to, it would be hard to make reasonable and correct comments.
I would prefer to still fly and see a Qantas Aircraft rather than see it die.. I know from years ago that after being overseas for a prolonged period to see the Qantas Aircraft in Asia that I wasn't far from home. Now in a short while that aircraft may have different crew or base (and I am not endorsing or agreeing to overseas crews or crew losing their jobs) but it will still be Qantas....
In regards to Qantas getting 777s or other aircraft, they will be getting 787s in the next few years and they probably did miss the boat with getting the aircraft at the right time, but why have another different aircraft type that will require spare parts, simulators, crews and engineers rated on that aircraft.
Hey no offence, but maybe they should get some A320s for Qantas as well and then they can be like Ansett and have:
A320s and 737s
767s, 777s, 787s, A330s,
747s and A380s
I am Australian, I am proud of Qantas and obviously the Board have not taken these decisions lightly.
Qantas may be losing a lot of money internationally and without all the figures that we don't have access to, it would be hard to make reasonable and correct comments.
I would prefer to still fly and see a Qantas Aircraft rather than see it die.. I know from years ago that after being overseas for a prolonged period to see the Qantas Aircraft in Asia that I wasn't far from home. Now in a short while that aircraft may have different crew or base (and I am not endorsing or agreeing to overseas crews or crew losing their jobs) but it will still be Qantas....
In regards to Qantas getting 777s or other aircraft, they will be getting 787s in the next few years and they probably did miss the boat with getting the aircraft at the right time, but why have another different aircraft type that will require spare parts, simulators, crews and engineers rated on that aircraft.
Hey no offence, but maybe they should get some A320s for Qantas as well and then they can be like Ansett and have:
A320s and 737s
767s, 777s, 787s, A330s,
747s and A380s
I am Australian, I am proud of Qantas and obviously the Board have not taken these decisions lightly.
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Qantas may be losing a lot of money internationally and without all the figures that we don't have access to, it would be hard to make reasonable and correct comments.
On the 7.30 report video he said "I'm not sending jobs overseas, I'm just retreching aussies and creating new jobs overseas.."
Last week the Qantas spin machine said it will only cost 30 mil to set up in Asia, this week it was quoted in the media as 500 mil....
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Seen AJ on lateline last night peddling this crap that LAWYERS in Thailand are tripping over each other to get well paid jobs on JETSTAR selling over priced orange juice and muffins what utter CRAP.
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Fear not boy's and girl's. AJ has just given us the very reason we will soon be able to get rid of him! Just like Margret departed after the failed APA bid, the man with glasses that are 2 sizes too big and possibly the worst dentist in the world will have to pack his bag and sod off. Like we've all said before. We were here before they came, and we will be around long after they've gone! You've just got to weather the storm in between.
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AJ admits that fewer people fly QF out of Australia... what has been done to correct this? I have seen very little of QANTAS marketing in the past.
I dream again for the old days.
Think outside of the square (Freemasons forgive me).
If one is considering setting up a Premium Airline in Asia plus a joint effort in Japan why not instead start a Premium Airline in Southern Europe flying intra Europe and hubbing with QF from Australiua.
This means that the LHR slots are retained (will QF be able to re purchase these slots sold to BA should QF decide to increase services to LHR?) and services to other European cities will be served by QF albeit under another name.
There are already two partly owned by QF airlines in Asia!! All one needs is another bout od Asian flu or bird flu and all you eggs are in one basket... so to speak!
As I said "Tell 'im 'e's dreaming"
I dream again for the old days.
Think outside of the square (Freemasons forgive me).
If one is considering setting up a Premium Airline in Asia plus a joint effort in Japan why not instead start a Premium Airline in Southern Europe flying intra Europe and hubbing with QF from Australiua.
This means that the LHR slots are retained (will QF be able to re purchase these slots sold to BA should QF decide to increase services to LHR?) and services to other European cities will be served by QF albeit under another name.
There are already two partly owned by QF airlines in Asia!! All one needs is another bout od Asian flu or bird flu and all you eggs are in one basket... so to speak!
As I said "Tell 'im 'e's dreaming"
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Just a suggestion, but I would, if I were you, be putting in your protest to your local MP and get everyone you know to do so also. Not just about job losses but the fact that the very airline itself is under threat of closure and moving offshore for cheaper parts and labor. (which is probably the ultimate game). It won't long before some MP becomes uncomfortable about it, and brings it to question time. It cannot hurt, the more its out there the better chance you have of arresting it. This is no longer about just jobs, its about a company under seige by the very people who run it. All QF unions now need to get together, and form a fighting force, because you cannot win this fight alone, not any more. We all know QF can knock the socks off other airlines if given the chance, it is a world favorite, and like TE it can stay in its own country and operate well with the right CEO and the staff right behind him/her. Its up to you all now, do you sink or swim? Lets see a bit of that Anzac spirit, better to be beaten standing, than on your knees. Its worth fighting for, it really is.
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This means that the LHR slots are retained (will QF be able to re purchase these slots sold to BA should QF decide to increase services to LHR?) and services to other European cities will be served by QF albeit under another name.
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AJ admits that fewer people fly QF out of Australia...
He admits it because he knows it's true. That's part of the plan he presented to the QF board when JB and PG were frozen out by Clifford.
1. Diminish the QF international route network.
2. Reduce frequency.
3. Starve QF international capital requirements (Keep aging / tired aircraft).
4. J* get newer a/c, increased network, increased frequency.
5. Frustrate staff through difficult working environment.
End result, fewer people fly QF, unit costs increase, not as profitable; The plan to break the people who made Qantas.
1. Diminish the QF international route network.
2. Reduce frequency.
3. Starve QF international capital requirements (Keep aging / tired aircraft).
4. J* get newer a/c, increased network, increased frequency.
5. Frustrate staff through difficult working environment.
End result, fewer people fly QF, unit costs increase, not as profitable; The plan to break the people who made Qantas.
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82% of international travellers into and out of Australia do not fly QF. If you take out Air NZ's marketshare, it becomes 90%. If you take out QF's trans-tasman market share + USA, you might find that it's close to 95% of international passengers into and out of Australia (excluding USA and NZ routes) do not fly QF. Are my stats right?
Lovely day on the river. Sunscreen, hat and sunglasses are all on. Radio for the football results. Fridge keeping a few cold ones at the ready. Settling in for the wait ahead. Fishing rods showing no signs yet as I wait to haul in the catch as they head down river.
Looks picturesque. I'm smiling at the thought of what I'll see.
Looks picturesque. I'm smiling at the thought of what I'll see.
Mr Joyce on News.com:
Mr Joyce, in Media Presentation:
You be the judge ....
"We're seeing the unions continuing to trash the Qantas name, they're continuing to undermine Qantas," he (Mr Joyce) said
Read more: Qantas boss Joyce: Union job claims nonsense | News.com.au
Read more: Qantas boss Joyce: Union job claims nonsense | News.com.au
" It is a steadily fading business ... suffering big financial losses and a substantial decline in market share"
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I would prefer to still fly and see a Qantas Aircraft rather than see it die...
If multinationalism is the only way forward, why not open up the domestic market to foreign operators and we'll see how long Qantas remains competitive then? If it's no longer an Australian airline that employs Australians, why should the government protect it?
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Gee Peter Reith and his views on the whole thing are a bit of a worry...
Did anyone see him on ABC24's The Drum last night?
I am constantly impressed (read: bewildered) how easily high level politicians, like he was, continue to accept the rhetoric from private companies, who's culling actions will adversely effect their very own constituents, and blindly tow the company line that Slashing staff is necessary...
Politicians need to remember who they represent...
Did anyone see him on ABC24's The Drum last night?
I am constantly impressed (read: bewildered) how easily high level politicians, like he was, continue to accept the rhetoric from private companies, who's culling actions will adversely effect their very own constituents, and blindly tow the company line that Slashing staff is necessary...
Politicians need to remember who they represent...
You couldn't get a seat into or out of SFO in April just before the "smartest guys in the room", cancelled the service.
SFO Airport manager confirmed pax numbers for April were 1000 up on the year before. Yields were up, plenty of cargo and all with no advertising [route closure already flagged].
He was beside himself with frustration.
Leaving staff behind in JFK ?
Perfect opportunity for the buffoons to cancel the service.
What? Are you implying that politicians from his party represent, "the people"?
SFO Airport manager confirmed pax numbers for April were 1000 up on the year before. Yields were up, plenty of cargo and all with no advertising [route closure already flagged].
He was beside himself with frustration.
Leaving staff behind in JFK ?
Perfect opportunity for the buffoons to cancel the service.
Politicians need to remember who they represent...
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I am constantly impressed (read: bewildered) how easily high level politicians, like he was, continue to accept the rhetoric from private companies, who's culling actions will adversely effect their very own constituents, and blindly tow the company line that Slashing staff is necessary...
Politicians need to remember who they represent...
Wont ever happen - far more important to remember who owns them.
Any mug that thinks Government exists for any purpose beyond implementing what the Corporations need to feed their greed, is deluding themself.
Politicians need to remember who they represent...
Wont ever happen - far more important to remember who owns them.
Any mug that thinks Government exists for any purpose beyond implementing what the Corporations need to feed their greed, is deluding themself.