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Old 7th Jun 2011, 02:49
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Does anybody think that Joyce and Clifford are softening up the market for a major change in tactics. Perhaps A380s to J* between Asia and London. Fill them full of economy seats and charge for everything else that a passenger may like once up and away. Captive market 700-800 punters. Could it work?
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 03:03
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Well... Q eng lost a tender for a major reconfig of the A380. Why reconfig a new aircraft?
I'll let that one simmer for a bit.
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 03:17
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It could work because they would sell it as a Qantas flight then put the customers on a JQ flight. Too late at the gate to do anything.

I was visiting the top end of Oz recently and a group of tourists were complaining about Qantas, many different reasons but the main one being they had paid for Qantas domestic flights and ended up on Jetstar flights. They were not happy and told everyone on our dinner table and surrounding areas.
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 03:21
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Gee and I wonder why we are losing market share? Must be those greedy pilots and engineers! Why does an Airline even need pilots and engineers... Let's just employ accountants and marketing yuppies... That'll work... Yeah!
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Possible Playbook

1/. Run down the Qantas brand and the share price, while rapidly building J*
2/. Provoke a major industrial storm
3/. Use this to justify rapidly deploying J* on selected Qantas routes
4/. Sell off Jetstar + assets to private equity buyers such as KKR, to "save" Qantas
5/. "sorry, that didn't work", Q into receivership, its the governments problem now.
6/. Reposition J* in the market, with lower cost base and only Virgin to compete with
7/. We now have a far leaner airline with new planes, cheaper staff and no pesky Qantas Sale Act.
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 09:26
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So if QF Int gets out from under the control of these guys, isn't that a good thing? Someone can be gotten in who can run things properly say 'look old management were and we are now going to win you all back'.

Maybe we want this end game now?
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 11:16
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I can read the future......

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Old 7th Jun 2011, 11:24
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Pilots and cabin crew could work for free and it makes zilch in terms of profitablity of the QF product, this is a management fail and they should worry about it not the employees. Bring it Joyce just bring it, cant wait for it to start!
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 11:32
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Something smells about what is going on. I suspect Qantas is going to divest itself of International and sell it to private interests for a song.
If the ACCC would let it I can see VB taking over Qantas, then SIA and ANZ taking over VB. Not just yet - let it go for another 6 months - pilots on strike, engineers on strike. VB step in to save the day.
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 11:45
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Maybe Just maybe......

Borghetti is a double agent ?
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 11:47
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Talking

A J-Virus 380,just think how many muffins you could carry?
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Old 7th Jun 2011, 15:35
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Hi the-flying-z, thanks for the pic but I needed to sort out the registration, VH-TIM did my head in.
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The former senior Qantas executive was also asked whether he had any advice for Qantas's boss, Alan Joyce. ''I am sure that his board gives him advice. I don't need to do that,'' he said with a straight face. ''It's the role of boards - so don't read anything into that.''
from the SMH this morning,

Read more: Virgin Australia's John Borghetti signs Singapore Airlines deal
JB having a little, no having a big dig at the QF board, priceless.

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Old 8th Jun 2011, 01:40
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Alan Joyce has just accepted the position of Chairman of the Board of Governers of IATA from June 2012. I would have thought Joyce had enough on his plate working full time for the QF shareholders. No doubt the QF shareholders will be picking up the tab for the travelling expenses and everything else Joyce will be doing on behalf of IATA (next AGM is in Beijing).
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 01:47
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The arrogance of this little Irish prick is absolutely beyond belief
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 01:56
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is there something else going on here?

Alan Joyce has just accepted the position of Chairman of the Board of Governers of IATA from June 2012. I would have thought Joyce had enough on his plate
Doesn't say much for IATA, no one else wanted the chair, or is there something else going on here?
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 02:05
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Standby for the announcment from him that his responsibilities at IATA are not leaving him enough time to dedicate to the Qantas Group and therefore he has tendered his resignation to the Board, who have reluctantly accepted it.

Blah blah blah

More to Follow

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Old 8th Jun 2011, 02:16
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I'd say you're on the money as usual Kelpie

Good riddance of the little man.

I can taste the celebrations already!
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 02:42
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IATA's gain is our gain.
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Old 8th Jun 2011, 03:03
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Let's just hope that the Kelpie is on the money!
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