Future of Qantas in jeopardy: Joyce (Merged)
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Does anybody think that Joyce and Clifford are softening up the market for a major change in tactics. Perhaps A380s to J* between Asia and London. Fill them full of economy seats and charge for everything else that a passenger may like once up and away. Captive market 700-800 punters. Could it work?
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From: BrisVegas
It could work because they would sell it as a Qantas flight then put the customers on a JQ flight. Too late at the gate to do anything.
I was visiting the top end of Oz recently and a group of tourists were complaining about Qantas, many different reasons but the main one being they had paid for Qantas domestic flights and ended up on Jetstar flights. They were not happy and told everyone on our dinner table and surrounding areas.
I was visiting the top end of Oz recently and a group of tourists were complaining about Qantas, many different reasons but the main one being they had paid for Qantas domestic flights and ended up on Jetstar flights. They were not happy and told everyone on our dinner table and surrounding areas.
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From: On a date with destiny.
Gee and I wonder why we are losing market share? Must be those greedy pilots and engineers! Why does an Airline even need pilots and engineers... Let's just employ accountants and marketing yuppies... That'll work... Yeah!
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From: Aus
Possible Playbook
1/. Run down the Qantas brand and the share price, while rapidly building J*
2/. Provoke a major industrial storm
3/. Use this to justify rapidly deploying J* on selected Qantas routes
4/. Sell off Jetstar + assets to private equity buyers such as KKR, to "save" Qantas
5/. "sorry, that didn't work", Q into receivership, its the governments problem now.
6/. Reposition J* in the market, with lower cost base and only Virgin to compete with
7/. We now have a far leaner airline with new planes, cheaper staff and no pesky Qantas Sale Act.
2/. Provoke a major industrial storm
3/. Use this to justify rapidly deploying J* on selected Qantas routes
4/. Sell off Jetstar + assets to private equity buyers such as KKR, to "save" Qantas
5/. "sorry, that didn't work", Q into receivership, its the governments problem now.
6/. Reposition J* in the market, with lower cost base and only Virgin to compete with
7/. We now have a far leaner airline with new planes, cheaper staff and no pesky Qantas Sale Act.
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From: Sydney, Australia
So if QF Int gets out from under the control of these guys, isn't that a good thing? Someone can be gotten in who can run things properly say 'look old management were 
and we are now going to win you all back'.
Maybe we want this end game now?
and we are now going to win you all back'.Maybe we want this end game now?
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From: I prefer to remain north of a direct line BNE-ADL
Pilots and cabin crew could work for free and it makes zilch in terms of profitablity of the QF product, this is a management fail and they should worry about it not the employees. Bring it Joyce just bring it, cant wait for it to start!
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From: Perth
Something smells about what is going on. I suspect Qantas is going to divest itself of International and sell it to private interests for a song.
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From: Sydney
The former senior Qantas executive was also asked whether he had any advice for Qantas's boss, Alan Joyce. ''I am sure that his board gives him advice. I don't need to do that,'' he said with a straight face. ''It's the role of boards - so don't read anything into that.''
from the SMH this morning,
Read more: Virgin Australia's John Borghetti signs Singapore Airlines deal
Read more: Virgin Australia's John Borghetti signs Singapore Airlines deal
JB having a little, no having a big dig at the QF board, priceless.
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From: International
Alan Joyce has just accepted the position of Chairman of the Board of Governers of IATA from June 2012. I would have thought Joyce had enough on his plate working full time for the QF shareholders. No doubt the QF shareholders will be picking up the tab for the travelling expenses and everything else Joyce will be doing on behalf of IATA (next AGM is in Beijing).
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From: London-Thailand-Australia
is there something else going on here?
Alan Joyce has just accepted the position of Chairman of the Board of Governers of IATA from June 2012. I would have thought Joyce had enough on his plate
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From: Australia
Standby for the announcment from him that his responsibilities at IATA are not leaving him enough time to dedicate to the Qantas Group and therefore he has tendered his resignation to the Board, who have reluctantly accepted it.
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