Renamed & Merged: Qantas Severe Engine Damage Over Indonesia
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TG and Terminal Frost:
I know a guy who was heavily licenced and got 'packaged out' of the Evil Empire (QF) a few years ago.
He used his payout to buy our local bottle-o, and couldn't be happier to be out of that place. 'Tis a pity that he took over 30 years experience with him, though. I get a really good discount on my grog, even though I work for his former opposition.
I know a guy who was heavily licenced and got 'packaged out' of the Evil Empire (QF) a few years ago.
He used his payout to buy our local bottle-o, and couldn't be happier to be out of that place. 'Tis a pity that he took over 30 years experience with him, though. I get a really good discount on my grog, even though I work for his former opposition.
Mathematicians ?
Can someone explain what this comment from the ABC website about this problem means when it refers to mathematicians? I understand accountants and pen-pushers.
I'm a mathematician by trade so just wondering where we come in.
Thanks - Michael
The Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association has been involved in an 18-month long feud with Qantas against aircraft maintenance work being moved overseas.
Union secretary Stephen Purvinis says the airline is too focused on the bottom line.
"The quality of maintenance in Australia has been second to none and when you're starting to take some of your advice from your accountants, pen-pushers and mathematicians working for the airline, rather than the experts who delivered your reputation in the first place, that's when we have some concern," he said.
Union secretary Stephen Purvinis says the airline is too focused on the bottom line.
"The quality of maintenance in Australia has been second to none and when you're starting to take some of your advice from your accountants, pen-pushers and mathematicians working for the airline, rather than the experts who delivered your reputation in the first place, that's when we have some concern," he said.
Thanks - Michael
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The (Q)ALAEA needs to get back in their box too. They are not doing themselves any favours at the moment....
Last edited by Short_Circuit; 5th Nov 2010 at 22:58. Reason: too much cr@p
defining mathematician:
I believe the use of the word mathematician in this context refers to those persons who can staticially show the time in sevice between scheduled checks of either airframe or components can be extended, due to the probablility of failure being within the risk matirx of the business. Of cause this then has to be approved by QCASA. A very easy task these days.
I believe the use of the word mathematician in this context refers to those persons who can staticially show the time in sevice between scheduled checks of either airframe or components can be extended, due to the probablility of failure being within the risk matirx of the business. Of cause this then has to be approved by QCASA. A very easy task these days.
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Well said Lester..
The association needs to wait for the outcome of the investigation and not bash the airline too quickly..God help us if one of the QF Lames makes a mistake which leads to a similiar incident.
The association needs to wait for the outcome of the investigation and not bash the airline too quickly..God help us if one of the QF Lames makes a mistake which leads to a similiar incident.
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astroboy55 -
Well I'm confused??!!! Whats AIPA got to do with this? Take credit for the great job of the pilots? They did a brilliant job, but AIPA's connections or involvement? Get real.
perhaps aipa will use this to their advantage
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Well said Lester and mightyauster. 
The ALAEA getting their name in the press with alarmist comments is expected these days but it would be smarter to comment once more information is known, rather than sprouting the predictable lines about offshore maintainence. Once again, well done to the crew again for an amazing job.
The ALAEA getting their name in the press with alarmist comments is expected these days but it would be smarter to comment once more information is known, rather than sprouting the predictable lines about offshore maintainence. Once again, well done to the crew again for an amazing job.
From Mr Joyce as reported on the ABC on line...
Really? With number two thrust reverser on the island of Batam?
"The aircraft would have been heavy on landing, the pilot used full reverse thrust and there were tyres that burst on landing, but that was not significant, that can happen every now and again on aircraft landings particularly when the aircraft is heavy," he said.
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Reference press briefings to the press on operational matters. Many moons ago it was standard practice for a Management pilot and a Senior engineer to do these briefings and they worked well.
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"Qantas is a strong brand. One of the reasons why is because when it is in a tight spot it always comes out on top." (paraphrase)
Thanks to whom? Especially in this case...
Take note Jetstar and other cadetship pushing 'low time pilots make no difference' proponents. How much do you value your brand? How easily could it be destroyed? What are you investing in those people that largely carry that burden?
Thanks to whom? Especially in this case...
Take note Jetstar and other cadetship pushing 'low time pilots make no difference' proponents. How much do you value your brand? How easily could it be destroyed? What are you investing in those people that largely carry that burden?
Although I agree with your post in general, ALAEA may be a little out of line by using QF 32's incident yesterday (different to the past) to make a case.
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Lester,
You get stuck into someone
There seems to be a disconnect here, Are AJ and Leigh Clifford
. They are the CEO and Chairman of QANTAS.
AJ fronted the media tonight/ this afternoon to discuss the investigation of the incident.
How can these people who have been there the equivalent of 5 minutes talk about the enviable safety record, they had bugger all to do with it. That record has been built up over decades by aviation professionals.
These parasites are happy to use that decades long record to feather their own nests.
You get stuck into someone
It is disgraceful behavior from an aviation proffessional
aviation proffessional
AJ fronted the media tonight/ this afternoon to discuss the investigation of the incident.
How can these people who have been there the equivalent of 5 minutes talk about the enviable safety record, they had bugger all to do with it. That record has been built up over decades by aviation professionals.
These parasites are happy to use that decades long record to feather their own nests.
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I think Qantas will get a LOT more respect in the media after this incident. It was hands down the best example of professionalism and courage in recent aviation events.
The entire population of Australia, not just the flying public, sees Qantas as "their" airline, just like the Olympic teams.
It's a pretty proud moment!
The entire population of Australia, not just the flying public, sees Qantas as "their" airline, just like the Olympic teams.
It's a pretty proud moment!
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I think Qantas will get a LOT more respect in the media after this incident. It was hands down the best example of professionalism and courage in recent aviation events.
The entire population of Australia, not just the flying public, sees Qantas as "their" airline, just like the Olympic teams.
It's a pretty proud moment!
The entire population of Australia, not just the flying public, sees Qantas as "their" airline, just like the Olympic teams.
It's a pretty proud moment!
