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Old 15th Sep 2010, 11:56
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We have a probationary UNIONIST1974 who has, as yet in my opinion, failed to contribute anything of worth to the debate. A scan of other threads also shows a distinct lack of substance. Please monitor, and if needed, use the aeroguard.
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Maybe all those 2350 Forms were getting to expensive!
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 08:06
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One Star Airline

At $187 per transit aircraft & basically free rectification I cant see how going alone will be cheaper? Good luck to the One Star Boys but I wouldnt expect any support from the SIT guys, when it goes pear shaped.

As for QF Management, what a joke Gavin's meeting with LAMEs, revealed that they have no long term plan, no idea how to fix so many problem here in Base and the A380 monster out of control.
How long can they continue to operate the manpower levels on the A380 estimated costing between $20,000-$30,000 per transit! Seems the A380 expense is tolerable but the wasted resources in the highest paid, multi licenced area is ridiculous. Time to intergrate the A380 into the mainline operation & the removal of at least 6 Ops managers (empire builders), utilise the skill expertise and talent of all of engineering, after all they are all just aircraft.
Once part 100-66 comes in then it will be interesting, as the flexibility should be better, all the B1 rated boys could be certifying a lot more in base cross all trade streams. Strange that management aren't being proactive and training a heap of Base guys up to B1 level in preparation for the change, that would be too smart.
The EBA will be another kettle of fish, I wonder if part 100-66 will be discussed and if the current grading system be converted into a tiered B1/B2 grading system?
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 09:49
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This is a big thread drift but Slacker don't be surprised if Syd Base Maint follows the business plan of 380. No foreman only a few Ops managers and the majority of work being done by cross trade crews.

They know that 380 ops are running with big crews at the moment and they are happy to wear the cost so they can keep experience levels up.

3 more 380s are due before Xmas and 1 more in Feb 2011 so the workload will increase considerably in the near future, not too mention c check support and delivery support. It may be a lull at the moment but as sure as my butt points to the ground it will getting very busy very soon.
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 14:51
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Line back under young harris, heavy under keith. The BNE kiwi connection won't be happy. Their empitr is gone. Head of supply no longer of assistance to the company. DH now head of supply.
Slowly things are improving at BNE from the ground up. New (temporary) shift manager (oops, operations manager), and HR witch gone..... full time replacements yet to be found but temps are are a refreshing change.... just hope good things keep flowing in an upwards direction. The almost rock bottom disengagement mite just start improving!
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 23:08
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Once part 100-66 comes in then it will be interesting, as the flexibility should be better, all the B1 rated boys could be certifying a lot more in base cross all trade streams. Strange that management aren't being proactive and training a heap of Base guys up to B1 level in preparation for the change, that would be too smart
They won't even recognise the qualification of the guys that have gone out and got their 100-66 B1/B2 basics off their own bat.

When the Base Ops Managers were asked about conversion to the new regs at a recent re-engagement meeting they admitted they have "no idea how it all works"
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Old 17th Sep 2010, 23:38
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The 3 Base Ops managers are all oxygen theives. They don't really contribute anything to Base maintenance. They could all be sacked and the place would not miss a beat.

They are lying back-stabbing bottom dwellers more focused on what they can do for themselves rather than what they can do to help anyone else.
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Ah Superlame, I agree with about two of the three Ops Managers but I'm not sure about the one "handling" the A330. For him to be a "lying back-stabbing bottom dwellers more focused on what they can do for themselves rather than what they can do to help anyone else" would suggest he would have a certain amount of (all be it underhanded) intelligence. I'm afraid this idiot couldn't make a decision if his life depended on it.

Sorry about the thread drift but I couldn't help myself.

I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
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Old 18th Sep 2010, 09:05
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Acute Instinct , turn the spray on yourself . Like you I have an opinion . But people like you are so arogant , you cannot contemplate that there are people whom might disagree with you . Get over it!
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 01:24
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QF guys, its sad to see you lose more contracts yet again. However Qantas engineering is not gods gift to aviation. Whilst I acknowledge there are a lot of amazingly talented engineers there a plenty of nuffys to make up the balance. Good on Jetstar I say. If they pay less then its up to the LAME and us to keep OUR wage up. The pilots are going through the same thing right now. maybe we should take a leaf out of their book.
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The thing is Empire, I don't believe they are going to actually "self handle". Are we to assume they will now cut themselves from the Qf teet, use their own Tech Services, Maint Watch, tooling, AOG crews etc..... i think not.

I wouldn't mind betting that J* self handling consists of signing a contract with a different service provider, one that probably employs certifying LAME's here on 457 visas because there is a "shortage" of skills in Oz

This will impact on the guys who carry out the A checks on J* 330s presumably, even less work for the Base, yet I bet they will be farming out all their gear to the mob that does do it.....

Will they be inclined to pull them out of the poo if and when it hits the fan, that is the 64 million dollar question.

Maybe the Sydney Base "Manager" who nominated himself for a 330 type course can assist them.
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They know that 380 ops are running with big crews at the moment and they are happy to wear the cost so they can keep experience levels up.
I'm not so sure about that statement superlame, my info tells me crew sizes similar to base (and yes upskillers as well)



When the Base Ops Managers were asked about conversion to the new regs at a recent re-engagement meeting they admitted they have "no idea how it all works"
So how do they propose "building the business"? Any new types will be part 66, 330 may even go part 66. Good to see they are all over it
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 11:37
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QF guys, its sad to see you lose more contracts yet again. However Qantas engineering is not gods gift to aviation. Whilst I acknowledge there are a lot of amazingly talented engineers there a plenty of nuffys to make up the balance. Good on Jetstar I say. If they pay less then its up to the LAME and us to keep OUR wage up. The pilots are going through the same thing right now. maybe we should take a leaf out of their book.
Contracts are not "lost" due to being uncompetetive. They are lost due to incompetence and arrogance. The impending "loss" of Jetstar 330's is no real loss to QF as a whole, as it is a QF Group Airline. The total dollars within the group don't change, just the supposed costings will.

My bet is, that this is the prelude to the 787's due to arrive within the next 12-24 months (depending when Boeing can get its act together). When Jetstar get the first 15 aircraft, their engineers will be trained up to service their own, and may even get the QF contract for the line servicing of the aircraft. Jetstar is growing at the expense of its parent company. QF may well become a support airline for the ever growing Jetstar
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 12:02
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Can anyone believe who is running the show at Avalon now amazing is all I can say.
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 12:38
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who's running it then? we can't handle suspense. Avalon is yet another setup for degrading the Aussie engineering T&C's. They would give AMSA a race for the title of 457 visa employer of the year!
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I am going to let someone else say i just cannot believe it actually I can its not what you know its who know mate !
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 11:17
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Jethro is Avalon being run by an ex Syd Heavy Maintenance foreman? First initial C?
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 11:29
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Lets see someone with no management experience not even a LAME and not an avionics person not a Qantas person not a 457 visa person but a Forstaff employee.
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Old 22nd Sep 2010, 07:58
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Is this true ?what a buch of whackers . Can''t belive it . Are they mad or what
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Old 22nd Sep 2010, 08:17
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I thought it was a joke when they told us no ones laughing now
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