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If new J* Oz pilots are to be employed on new conditions is anyone able to expand on the new jetstar group conditions?
Have an assessment day coming up and would be handy to have all the info to hand to make an informed decision before making the trek down to melbourne.
PM me if you wish
Have an assessment day coming up and would be handy to have all the info to hand to make an informed decision before making the trek down to melbourne.
PM me if you wish
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Any new pilot that joins Jet* OZ will be employed under new conditions under the new Jet* 'Group', conditions.
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Last Fridays Australian News Paper had an insert magazine with the J* boss as the feature article:
"I need to reduce my cost's by 4% every year."
I wonder how this is achieved, they aren't very original are they, lets not try and hedge our fuel properly, lets not try and hedge our currency properly, lets not try and negotiate cheaper aircraft purchases, no! I have an idea, let pay our staff less and shaft the S%^T out of them, how very original. Why go and study an MBA, we learn it from our management, better still, they do them online anyway. No way they could pass a Harvard MBA, if they could, they would not be working for J*.
Where do I sign up for Food Stamps, oh that's right, we will be banned by management from doing that!
Heard the other day that JB at VB said J* looses 16 Million a year, but better to loose 16 Million at J*, than compete with Tiger and VB and loose 100 Million with QF. Interesting fact!
"I need to reduce my cost's by 4% every year."
I wonder how this is achieved, they aren't very original are they, lets not try and hedge our fuel properly, lets not try and hedge our currency properly, lets not try and negotiate cheaper aircraft purchases, no! I have an idea, let pay our staff less and shaft the S%^T out of them, how very original. Why go and study an MBA, we learn it from our management, better still, they do them online anyway. No way they could pass a Harvard MBA, if they could, they would not be working for J*.
Where do I sign up for Food Stamps, oh that's right, we will be banned by management from doing that!
Heard the other day that JB at VB said J* looses 16 Million a year, but better to loose 16 Million at J*, than compete with Tiger and VB and loose 100 Million with QF. Interesting fact!
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"lets not try and hedge our fuel properly, lets not try and hedge our currency properly, lets not try and negotiate cheaper aircraft purchases,"
They do that too.
"lets pay our staff less"
You wont be paid any less for the job you do.
They do that too.
"lets pay our staff less"
You wont be paid any less for the job you do.
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You wont be paid any less for the job you do But others will!
Have a look at VB's previous currency hedging and fuel hedging success! My reference to this was their ability to get it correct, not the fact that they don't already do this!
Have a look at VB's previous currency hedging and fuel hedging success! My reference to this was their ability to get it correct, not the fact that they don't already do this!
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"Need to save 4% per year every year"
Well if REG learnt to engage his staff.
Listened to his management staff.
Treated staff with a bit of repsect.
Brought a bit of humility to the job.
And oh I don`t know, how about cut your own pay!
Then he might might find that most if not all of that 4% would come naturally.
Instead he is festering an increasingly militant workforce. One that has no interest in the welfare of the company or the people it serves. One that has no respect for its leader and as a result will continue to resist his drive for lowering our wages and conditions.
There is more to running an airline that what you read in a textbook REG.
Or you could read post entitled To REG, and read about another success story. Oh one that you might be competing against in the near future.
Well if REG learnt to engage his staff.
Listened to his management staff.
Treated staff with a bit of repsect.
Brought a bit of humility to the job.
And oh I don`t know, how about cut your own pay!
Then he might might find that most if not all of that 4% would come naturally.
Instead he is festering an increasingly militant workforce. One that has no interest in the welfare of the company or the people it serves. One that has no respect for its leader and as a result will continue to resist his drive for lowering our wages and conditions.
There is more to running an airline that what you read in a textbook REG.
Or you could read post entitled To REG, and read about another success story. Oh one that you might be competing against in the near future.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
an increasingly militant workforce. One that has no interest in the welfare of the company or the people it serves.
Problem for REG is that his style of management is not sustainable in the long term. (REG will shoot himself in the foot one way or another)
Mate just emailed me the T&C's for the 330 gig in SIN.
WHY would you bother??? It appears to be even less $$ than the A320 J*Asia contract.
Should have done a trade after all...
WHY would you bother??? It appears to be even less $$ than the A320 J*Asia contract.
Should have done a trade after all...
Nunc est bibendum
These were posted on Qrewroom. I don't know of their accuracy.
Hourly rate of pay = SGD$200 for Captains (60% for First Officers)
Guaranteed minimum 150 block hours per quarter = Guaranteed annual base salary of SGD$120,000 (SGD$72,000 for First Officers)
Leave- 5 weeks per annum @ SGD $3,500 per week (2,100 FO’s)
Days Off - 8 days off in 28 days or the equivalent averaged over 12 calendar months
Superannuation - Provision has been included in the base rate and it will be up to each pilot to make their own arrangements
Layover Allowance - The Company will pay the greater of a set amount per night (determined on a port by port basis) or
$5.00 per duty hour for all duty hours either side of an overnight.
Guaranteed minimum 150 block hours per quarter = Guaranteed annual base salary of SGD$120,000 (SGD$72,000 for First Officers)
Leave- 5 weeks per annum @ SGD $3,500 per week (2,100 FO’s)
Days Off - 8 days off in 28 days or the equivalent averaged over 12 calendar months
Superannuation - Provision has been included in the base rate and it will be up to each pilot to make their own arrangements
Layover Allowance - The Company will pay the greater of a set amount per night (determined on a port by port basis) or
$5.00 per duty hour for all duty hours either side of an overnight.
Nunc est bibendum
All things being equal it will be a bit more than that. I'm not sure if the $3.5K annual leave on top of the base pay or not. If it's on top then you can add $17.5K. Additionally, it's based on 600 hours so if you fly (say) 750 then you can add another $30K. That takes the package to a massive ( ) $177.5K SGD. Of course, you can then deduct the standard 9% of Aussie Super if you want it to continue taking you back down to about $160K SGD. Given the lower tax rate you're going to clear 136 SGD..... about $110K AUD. 
I suspect that rental apartments in Singapore are down from their highs a couple of years back but I still reckon it would be $5-6K per month for a 3 b/r apartment in a decent area. Definitely a package that will suit the young single guys who are willing to share accommodation.
) $177.5K SGD. Of course, you can then deduct the standard 9% of Aussie Super if you want it to continue taking you back down to about $160K SGD. Given the lower tax rate you're going to clear 136 SGD..... about $110K AUD. I suspect that rental apartments in Singapore are down from their highs a couple of years back but I still reckon it would be $5-6K per month for a 3 b/r apartment in a decent area. Definitely a package that will suit the young single guys who are willing to share accommodation.
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The figures people have listed above are correct.
Looking at figures sent by a friend, you are looking at
$151 SGD based on 600hrs thru to
$228 SGD based on 950hrs work
Plus you get a 10% bonus if you stay each year
usually Jetstar at least try to hide the turd sandwich with some extra lettuce or a piece of cheese full of holes but this time it's an open grill
Looking at figures sent by a friend, you are looking at
$151 SGD based on 600hrs thru to
$228 SGD based on 950hrs work
Plus you get a 10% bonus if you stay each year
usually Jetstar at least try to hide the turd sandwich with some extra lettuce or a piece of cheese full of holes but this time it's an open grill
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Magicbox,
The figures you quote are correct but they include the bonus and the assumption of a certain number of lay over allowances. No super paid.
At the moment A330 Jetstar Capt AUS $175000 base, plus over time at $222 per/hr over 75 hrs per/calander month, plus 9% super of that total and about $140 per lay over.
FO's 60% of above.
The figures you quote are correct but they include the bonus and the assumption of a certain number of lay over allowances. No super paid.
At the moment A330 Jetstar Capt AUS $175000 base, plus over time at $222 per/hr over 75 hrs per/calander month, plus 9% super of that total and about $140 per lay over.
FO's 60% of above.
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Magicbox,
The figures you quote are correct but they include the bonus and the assumption of a certain number of lay over allowances. No super paid.
The figures you quote are correct but they include the bonus and the assumption of a certain number of lay over allowances. No super paid.
My mistake....
....its turned the turd sandwich into a foot long turd sub