Jetstar Pilot texting during landing
Very possible for the phone to be receiving text as it comes into range and the stored messages get picked up or "Welcome to..." if flying internationally.
As the pilots are still flying and not under suspension it doesn't sound too serious.
At my airline the landing checklist is normally completed at 1500' agl, anything out of order will show up in blue on the ECAM and should be noticed as part of the checklist. A320 will give a gear warning at 750ft with power back or 750ft with flaps 3 or full regardless of power. If the warning had been received at this stage and the gear then was lowered, there wouldn't have been much time for the cycle to complete and to finish or redo the checklist. I've seen that before.
A go around is almost always the safer option, even in the simulator the instructors don't want you to push on with a bad position just to see if you can get away with it. If you don't meet the requirements for a stabilized approach and have the necessary minima, you throw it away.
Obviously wait for the full report but that's my 2 cents worth.
As the pilots are still flying and not under suspension it doesn't sound too serious.
At my airline the landing checklist is normally completed at 1500' agl, anything out of order will show up in blue on the ECAM and should be noticed as part of the checklist. A320 will give a gear warning at 750ft with power back or 750ft with flaps 3 or full regardless of power. If the warning had been received at this stage and the gear then was lowered, there wouldn't have been much time for the cycle to complete and to finish or redo the checklist. I've seen that before.
A go around is almost always the safer option, even in the simulator the instructors don't want you to push on with a bad position just to see if you can get away with it. If you don't meet the requirements for a stabilized approach and have the necessary minima, you throw it away.
Obviously wait for the full report but that's my 2 cents worth.
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Even a very basic phone will try a resend of a message that did not get sent the first time , ie he /she text before departure and did not send and with no signal until landing it then resent on arrival. A good defense can be put together very quickly.
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Right on Hotdog.
I also wonder how the SMH get away with headlines like that. Who is Matt O'Sullivan quoting when he says Pilot 'texting during landing'. If Jetstar were my baby, I'd be more than a little upset by headlines like that. Some of these journo's need to be held to account.
I also wonder how the SMH get away with headlines like that. Who is Matt O'Sullivan quoting when he says Pilot 'texting during landing'. If Jetstar were my baby, I'd be more than a little upset by headlines like that. Some of these journo's need to be held to account.
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I couldnt agree more with you regarding the journalists (for want of a better term) who should be held accountable. Particularly the second rate Matt O'Sullivan who is little more than a tabloid journo who regularly writes 'stories' that have no grounding in fact, and are compiled to provide the unwitting public with sensational, scary, aviation news. He does seem to have a thing about Jetstar as well for some reason, as he regularly canes them in his articles. Anybody with a little aviation experience can see straight through his BS.
I couldnt agree more with you regarding the journalists (for want of a better term) who should be held accountable. Particularly the second rate Matt O'Sullivan who is little more than a tabloid journo who regularly writes 'stories' that have no grounding in fact, and are compiled to provide the unwitting public with sensational, scary, aviation news. He does seem to have a thing about Jetstar as well for some reason, as he regularly canes them in his articles. Anybody with a little aviation experience can see straight through his BS.
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Seems like just another day in Jouno Land to me -Farcical stories, the confusing of 'fact with fantasy', lies and untruth, unsubstantiated verbal crap and the list goes on. Nothing but a pack of oxygen thieves and cockroaches that require extermination....
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We don't want Jounalists. Remember when we had "Reporters"
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A journalist collects and disseminates information about current events, people, trends, and issues. His or her work is acknowledged as journalism.
Reporters are one type of journalist. They create reports as a profession for broadcast or publication in mass media such as newspapers, television, radio, magazines, documentary film, and the Internet. Reporters find sources for their work, their reports can be either spoken or written, and they are often expected to report in the most objective and unbiased way to serve the public good. A columnist is a journalist who writes pieces that appear regularly in newspapers or magazines.
Depending on the context, the term journalist also includes various types of editors and visual journalists, such as photographers, graphic artists, and page designers.
Fancy having to find source, And being objective and unbiased
Another thing giving me the sh!ts is all these female newsreaders(not Journalist) who put their right ear on their right shoulder. Jana has already done that
Turn you off TV. Still that's not hard
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A journalist collects and disseminates information about current events, people, trends, and issues. His or her work is acknowledged as journalism.
Reporters are one type of journalist. They create reports as a profession for broadcast or publication in mass media such as newspapers, television, radio, magazines, documentary film, and the Internet. Reporters find sources for their work, their reports can be either spoken or written, and they are often expected to report in the most objective and unbiased way to serve the public good. A columnist is a journalist who writes pieces that appear regularly in newspapers or magazines.
Depending on the context, the term journalist also includes various types of editors and visual journalists, such as photographers, graphic artists, and page designers.
Fancy having to find source, And being objective and unbiased
Another thing giving me the sh!ts is all these female newsreaders(not Journalist) who put their right ear on their right shoulder. Jana has already done that
Turn you off TV. Still that's not hard
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Said pilot forgot to switch his phone off, no biggie happens all the time. Subsequently the ill fated flight took-off.
However the grim face of fatigue then came alive and overwhelmed both pilots putting them both to sleep, mind you this being induced by operational requirements.
Then, many moments later, the said phone came to life from incoming texts of worried relatives and angry ex-wives having not heard from said pilots for days, and the said phone was the ultimate savior of the day, as the pilot was woken up in time, he had no choice but to conduct a go-around(whose actions keeps the press employed)and at the same time have the company's rostering practices exonerated yet again! Give thy blokes another pint!
However the grim face of fatigue then came alive and overwhelmed both pilots putting them both to sleep, mind you this being induced by operational requirements.
Then, many moments later, the said phone came to life from incoming texts of worried relatives and angry ex-wives having not heard from said pilots for days, and the said phone was the ultimate savior of the day, as the pilot was woken up in time, he had no choice but to conduct a go-around(whose actions keeps the press employed)and at the same time have the company's rostering practices exonerated yet again! Give thy blokes another pint!
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Ouch
Frothy,
Hey hey settle settle ! Jana was always a former favourite of mine. A true 'ball breaker' was the Ice Queen.That cold hard stare,no fear and dominatrix snarl,she was my ultimate fantasy.Can you imagine her in her former reporting glory doing an interveiw on ACA in lets say a full body rubber suit and hobnail boots ?? Grrrrrrrrrr
Oh how I miss Jana
Another thing giving me the sh!ts is all these female newsreaders(not Journalist) who put their right ear on their right shoulder. Jana has already done that
Oh how I miss Jana
