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I wonder how much its costing them with the aircraft sitting on the ground. Another Skywest bugger up. Also noting is that their "new" F50 FSL has been sitting in the hangar for a while. So who is running the show again? All I can see is $$$$ running out down the runway.
from ausav yesterday...
Skywest has released its May operating figures, showing that it had a 7.21 per cent increase in passengers on its RPT services for the month.
The increase in passenger numbers helped to push up revenue passenger kilometres by 9.53 per cent, while capacity increased by 1.13 per cent. Load factor increased by four percentage points to 52.75 per cent. Charter capacity
A Skywest Fokker at 100 Broome. (Paul Sadler)
in ASKs increased by 13.42 per cent.
Meanwhile, Flight International has revealed that Skywest has been utilising a Boeing 737-700 wet leased from Virgin Blue to operate charter services on behalf of Fortescue Metals Group to Cloudbreak since May 18, replacing one of its Fokker 100s which previously operated the services. The wet lease is understood to be an interim measure until August when the airline plans to introduce its first Airbus A320 onto the route. The aircraft is currently undergoing testing and compliance checks in Melbourne
The increase in passenger numbers helped to push up revenue passenger kilometres by 9.53 per cent, while capacity increased by 1.13 per cent. Load factor increased by four percentage points to 52.75 per cent. Charter capacity
A Skywest Fokker at 100 Broome. (Paul Sadler)
in ASKs increased by 13.42 per cent.
Meanwhile, Flight International has revealed that Skywest has been utilising a Boeing 737-700 wet leased from Virgin Blue to operate charter services on behalf of Fortescue Metals Group to Cloudbreak since May 18, replacing one of its Fokker 100s which previously operated the services. The wet lease is understood to be an interim measure until August when the airline plans to introduce its first Airbus A320 onto the route. The aircraft is currently undergoing testing and compliance checks in Melbourne
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August hey..... seems like my assumptions may not be so "off beam" after all. 
Oily said....Alright evilc we'll just see what happens hey? I agree with you that the timeline is tight but my sources tell me that the aircraft will be in Perth by late May, early June and be undergoing some proving flights up North before its entry into service on the 5th of July.
I understand the machine is still in the hangar and not even on the AOC yet.
Seems like Oily's statement..... Evilc, all of your assumptions have been proven wrong so far.... might just fit better in reverse, given we are well past "late May" and have just seen "early June" fly by???
Meanwhile I see from the CASA website that YQC has been added to the Strategic AOC. The third one for them. My mate tells me 148 seats out of 156 filled to Bali today. Sounds a little healthier than a 52.75% load factor. Yeah.... I know, just one flight, but not bad considering the route has only just launched.
Oily said....Alright evilc we'll just see what happens hey? I agree with you that the timeline is tight but my sources tell me that the aircraft will be in Perth by late May, early June and be undergoing some proving flights up North before its entry into service on the 5th of July.
I understand the machine is still in the hangar and not even on the AOC yet.
Seems like Oily's statement..... Evilc, all of your assumptions have been proven wrong so far.... might just fit better in reverse, given we are well past "late May" and have just seen "early June" fly by???
Meanwhile I see from the CASA website that YQC has been added to the Strategic AOC. The third one for them. My mate tells me 148 seats out of 156 filled to Bali today. Sounds a little healthier than a 52.75% load factor. Yeah.... I know, just one flight, but not bad considering the route has only just launched.
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I wouldn't fly with these amateurs called Strategic.
Remember the slide blowing incident a couple of months ago in Perth after a return to the bay....
Now that was kept very quiet!!!
Skywest though.. A mature company, steadily making profits over the last 40 years, not taking too many risks, and of course ACE aircrew and flight attendants.
Remember the slide blowing incident a couple of months ago in Perth after a return to the bay....
Now that was kept very quiet!!!
Skywest though.. A mature company, steadily making profits over the last 40 years, not taking too many risks, and of course ACE aircrew and flight attendants.
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Grow up Jose, I think you will find that John Holland was responsible for the slide. I think you will also find that Qantas and even Virgin have done slides before but I am sure you will still fly with them. 
I hope both airlines do well. Nothing wrong with competition.
I hope both airlines do well. Nothing wrong with competition.
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My mate actually operated the first flight, which is why I know, and it was last weekend (12th) not this one. Your're right, however, Dodgy - full of Journo's from what he tells me - well half full. He reckons it was capped at 90 for paying pax, but they all sold anyway. Journo's filled the rest. 
But the flight he told me about, with 148 seats filled out of 156, was the 3rd return service. No need to shoot the messenger.
I see Jose gives his domicile as Perth. I hope his post is not indicative of the maturity level of Skywest, of which he speaks. Agree that the crew are probably ACE however.... I'm told they are a great bunch of people. Still waiting for their promised A320 however.
Also agree with Bizjet.... competition is good. More punters flying, more revenue to go around - even if it is at reduced ticket prices. Hopefully more jobs for us all in this insane industry.
But the flight he told me about, with 148 seats filled out of 156, was the 3rd return service. No need to shoot the messenger.
I see Jose gives his domicile as Perth. I hope his post is not indicative of the maturity level of Skywest, of which he speaks. Agree that the crew are probably ACE however.... I'm told they are a great bunch of people. Still waiting for their promised A320 however.
Also agree with Bizjet.... competition is good. More punters flying, more revenue to go around - even if it is at reduced ticket prices. Hopefully more jobs for us all in this insane industry.
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A full cabin in Strategic doesnt mean nothing, as we dont know how much they paid for the flight do we?
Stragetic have done heaps of advertising in recent months which must have burnt a huge hole in the cash reserves.
Isn't it already in Skywest colour and on the Australian Register?
Stragetic have done heaps of advertising in recent months which must have burnt a huge hole in the cash reserves.
Still waiting for their promised A320 however
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An aircraft that is painted and registered doesn't mean nothing (sic) either. That has been the basis of my stance since this thread opened Skystar old boy.
Go back and read my posts on the processes around getting the aircraft on the AOC. That it the kicker here (as the yanks would say). A coat of paint and a rego accounts for little. Just look at the Ozjet 737-200's sitting in the paddock at Perth airport. Lovely paint, nice rego's - but they aint goin anywhere.
Go back and read my posts on the processes around getting the aircraft on the AOC. That it the kicker here (as the yanks would say). A coat of paint and a rego accounts for little. Just look at the Ozjet 737-200's sitting in the paddock at Perth airport. Lovely paint, nice rego's - but they aint goin anywhere.
Just look at the Ozjet 737-200's sitting in the paddock at Perth airport. Lovely paint, nice rego's - but they aint goin anywhere.
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Bingo.... spot on Green Goblin.....
Registration does not infer airworthiness, that's my point. The "airworthiness certificate" is something earned after rigourous processes and proof (back to birth) that the aircraft has no bogus parts and has an unbroken history of compliant maintenance. The addition of the aircraft onto an AOC is another set of even more rigorous processes (something CASA applies a 130 day service delivery standard to). The rego certificate, on the other hand, is obtained simply by proving the craft is not registered anywhere else in the world and the appropriate fee is paid.
Skystar - Once again I'm going to have to refer you back to all my previous posts. I've got nothing against VR. In fact I think you'll find I'm on record, numerous times, praising the Skywest crew. Yes, I've been less than complimentary about the management side of the register, but I don't think that even the long suffering Skywest crew will jump to the fore and mount a defence on that element.
What I am against, however, is the blatant attacks on myself as soon as I dared to suggest that June/July was an unlikely time of entry into service. As it turns out it is becoming more and more likely that I am right, but it seems that rather than accept my initial premise and duly accept that you (and others) may be in error, the argument is simply turned into the suggestion that I have something against Skywest. It was not me that made all the promises around the EIS, it was the Skywest folk in this forum.
Registration does not infer airworthiness, that's my point. The "airworthiness certificate" is something earned after rigourous processes and proof (back to birth) that the aircraft has no bogus parts and has an unbroken history of compliant maintenance. The addition of the aircraft onto an AOC is another set of even more rigorous processes (something CASA applies a 130 day service delivery standard to). The rego certificate, on the other hand, is obtained simply by proving the craft is not registered anywhere else in the world and the appropriate fee is paid.
Skystar - Once again I'm going to have to refer you back to all my previous posts. I've got nothing against VR. In fact I think you'll find I'm on record, numerous times, praising the Skywest crew. Yes, I've been less than complimentary about the management side of the register, but I don't think that even the long suffering Skywest crew will jump to the fore and mount a defence on that element.
What I am against, however, is the blatant attacks on myself as soon as I dared to suggest that June/July was an unlikely time of entry into service. As it turns out it is becoming more and more likely that I am right, but it seems that rather than accept my initial premise and duly accept that you (and others) may be in error, the argument is simply turned into the suggestion that I have something against Skywest. It was not me that made all the promises around the EIS, it was the Skywest folk in this forum.
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I guess evilc people have the heart set on Skywest receiving the A320 as soon as possible.
Perhaps they dont take nicely to suggesting that it may take a little more time than they planned.
Delivery/Acceptance of aircraft certain can be delayed... The ATR aircraft I'm delivering to a client has taken an extra 2mths than it should have for a variety of reasons so it does happen.
At least we know the A320 is coming...
Cheers
Perhaps they dont take nicely to suggesting that it may take a little more time than they planned.
Delivery/Acceptance of aircraft certain can be delayed... The ATR aircraft I'm delivering to a client has taken an extra 2mths than it should have for a variety of reasons so it does happen.
At least we know the A320 is coming...
Cheers
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evilc - my old friend ;-)
Sorry in my delayed reply evilc... 
This particular A320's EIS is proving to be somewhat of a headache for the XR team isn't it!! However, you did say that it would not enter service until the end of the year and I still dispute that assumption. I believe that an EIS of August/September is still achievable despite the frustrations with CASA and the C of A (not blaming CASA however - they're just doing their job).
My sources tell me that XR's managements choice of A320 was a poor one and that paperwork issues regarding the maintenance history of said beastie is proving to be its undoing? I suppose that's the risk you take when you lease an old & tired aircraft. I believe that this thing is older than some of the F100's that XR operate?
It's good that your stirring the pot Evil... this thread is far more interesting with your contributions
Oily
This particular A320's EIS is proving to be somewhat of a headache for the XR team isn't it!! However, you did say that it would not enter service until the end of the year and I still dispute that assumption. I believe that an EIS of August/September is still achievable despite the frustrations with CASA and the C of A (not blaming CASA however - they're just doing their job).
My sources tell me that XR's managements choice of A320 was a poor one and that paperwork issues regarding the maintenance history of said beastie is proving to be its undoing? I suppose that's the risk you take when you lease an old & tired aircraft. I believe that this thing is older than some of the F100's that XR operate?
It's good that your stirring the pot Evil... this thread is far more interesting with your contributions
Oily
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It's had 28 different changes of operators since it was delivered in 93, imagine the layers of paint !
Their earliest F100 is a 91 model - FNN - FNJ is the newest a 94 model
Earliest F50 which was the first in Oz VH-FNA is back from 1987.
It's had 28 different changes of operators since it was delivered in 93, imagine the layers of paint !
Their earliest F100 is a 91 model - FNN - FNJ is the newest a 94 model
Earliest F50 which was the first in Oz VH-FNA is back from 1987.
No need to get so defensive! Even on your point its still had 6 regos then !
Look at VH-FNA - 1987 model with 2 operators, same rego - thats my only point !
It's not to say it's not a fine and safe a/c - just more of a pain to get all the paperwork in order.
Look at VH-FNA - 1987 model with 2 operators, same rego - thats my only point !
It's not to say it's not a fine and safe a/c - just more of a pain to get all the paperwork in order.
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What I am against, however, is the blatant attacks on myself as soon as I dared to suggest that June/July was an unlikely time of entry into service
You should have seen the pasting I copped a few years ago when some tosser came on here and said XR would be operating 320s ( plural ) by the end of that year ( I think 3 years ago ), not might be, but definitely would be. seems the XR folk are thin skinned and not too good at eating humble pie, there never was a retraction on that one.
A full cabin in Strategic doesnt mean nothing