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Not my silly bets XRlent.... it's your mate in the west (Chadzat) that made the wager old boy. Then another one of your mates had the audacity to want to send me his bank account details so I could pay him money if I was wrong - without even offering a counter claim. I simply accepted the fact that if I was prepared to make a statement then I was also prepared to "put up or shut up" on the back of it. 
My assumption is that your are more than likely XR management, not one of their long suffering crew who have been subjected to dissapointment for so many years on the back of hollow promises. So I therefore also assumed that you would back up the XR newsletter - "early July". My mistake if I'm wrong and aplogies.
Wouldn't care to dispel my notion of "year's end" with your view of what you clearly believe is less than "indefinite" would you? Easy to be right all the time if you neglect to put forward a counter argument
You say I lost my argument as soon as the aircraft arrived in Oz.... Guess it all depends upon your view/definition of the word "indefinite". My stance is simply the dictionary meaning.....
...... not clearly defined or determined; not precise or exact: an indefinite boundary; an indefinite date in the future (Dictionary.com)
Now we hear that the aircraft is in a storage maintenance program against the fence at JHAS in Melbourne...... oh dear. Sounds like an "indefinite date in the future" to me old boy.
No need for a bet XRlent..... just define that date in the future for us all and we'll see who is closest in the end. No bets, no wagers - we can just let the fine contributors to this forum decide who "speaks of things he knows nothing about", as you suggested in am guilty of in a previous attack... I mean... post.
My assumption is that your are more than likely XR management, not one of their long suffering crew who have been subjected to dissapointment for so many years on the back of hollow promises. So I therefore also assumed that you would back up the XR newsletter - "early July". My mistake if I'm wrong and aplogies.
Wouldn't care to dispel my notion of "year's end" with your view of what you clearly believe is less than "indefinite" would you? Easy to be right all the time if you neglect to put forward a counter argument
You say I lost my argument as soon as the aircraft arrived in Oz.... Guess it all depends upon your view/definition of the word "indefinite". My stance is simply the dictionary meaning.....
...... not clearly defined or determined; not precise or exact: an indefinite boundary; an indefinite date in the future (Dictionary.com)
Now we hear that the aircraft is in a storage maintenance program against the fence at JHAS in Melbourne...... oh dear. Sounds like an "indefinite date in the future" to me old boy.
No need for a bet XRlent..... just define that date in the future for us all and we'll see who is closest in the end. No bets, no wagers - we can just let the fine contributors to this forum decide who "speaks of things he knows nothing about", as you suggested in am guilty of in a previous attack... I mean... post.
I think youare getting your letters jumbled.
The G reg will stay until the C of A is issued - the certificate of airworthiness.
This has nothing directly to do with the AOC - Air Operators Certificate - which Skywest currently has (although it may or may not have A320 on it).
The G reg will stay until the C of A is issued - the certificate of airworthiness.
This has nothing directly to do with the AOC - Air Operators Certificate - which Skywest currently has (although it may or may not have A320 on it).
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Your maths teacher would be really proud. Your economics teacher may be a little disappointed though. If you have operated into Perth recently you would know what I mean.
Your maths teacher would be really proud. Your economics teacher may be a little disappointed though. If you have operated into Perth recently you would know what I mean.
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EvilC,
Please lets refer to it as VH-FNP as per the latest photo on this forum:
Jetspotter.com • View topic - Skywest A320 due 4 April
Please lets refer to it as VH-FNP as per the latest photo on this forum:
Jetspotter.com • View topic - Skywest A320 due 4 April
evilC please quote where ANYONE has said it will be in service by June? I dont mind having a good tit for tat, but it is usually the person with flimsy facts that decides to mis-quote the other side. I have said it will be in service by years end and that was all.
I suppose with strategic not doing much flying you have plenty of time to be sitting at a keyboard on proon!
I suppose with strategic not doing much flying you have plenty of time to be sitting at a keyboard on proon!
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Evilc... all of your assumptions have been proven wrong so far (date the aircraft is getting into the country, registration, put into storage by JHAS) and I look forward to the rest of your theories falling like a house of cards my friend 
Go for it Skywest!!!
Go for it Skywest!!!
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Chad.
I addressed the issue of "June" a good few posts back... keep up old boy. I corrected myself to "early July" once my error was pointed out (always happy to fess up when I'm wrong)... and that date is from your company's newsletter my friend. That counts as "ANYONE" to me as the newsletter would represent the stance of the entire organisation - would it not? So "mis-quote" adjusted already.
Oily
I gave no date for the aircraft arrival. I simply said it was "put off indefinately". As advised above... indefinite - "no defined date". Yes it did indeed subsequently turn up, and I was just as excited as you to see that the XR crew were finally seeing an end to the hollow promises of their management over the last 4 years.
The assertion of "storage maintenance program" was not mine Oily... You will see that it was 108vu that advised us of that fact if you go back a few posts. I was simply suggesting that such a situation would indeed ensure that the date of EIS is indefinite at best.
My agreement with XRlent that we both now refer to the aircraft as VH-FNP is based upon the fact that this is now what is written in the side of the aircraft (excellent evidence provided by XRlent). I have no idea if the rego certificate exists as it was 108vu who indicated that the piece of paper confirming the aircraft is indeed on the Oz register won't appear till closer to AOC issue. Again, stand ready to be corrected if someone knows otherwise.
Once again you guys spend all your time trying to prove my initial assertion wrong, but with no support/proof nor intestinal fortitude to suggest when the aircraft will actually enter service. Each post I read indicates I am more likely to be correct on that element than you, but then I've already put my "money" where my mouth is haven't I.
I don't fly for Strategic Chad... you're barking up the wrong tree there old boy. I'd like to, but I'm a Boeging boy. Maybe when they get their first 777 I'll jump in the seat. Got lots of mates flying there however (as I have in most other Aussie carriers). From what they tell me they are flat out. Twice weekly to the middle east, heaps of DIAC charters, off to Mackay from this week and some new RPT routes coming up also. Recruiting like crazy I understand. I'd worry less about Strategic and more about what your management are telling you if I was you.
I addressed the issue of "June" a good few posts back... keep up old boy. I corrected myself to "early July" once my error was pointed out (always happy to fess up when I'm wrong)... and that date is from your company's newsletter my friend. That counts as "ANYONE" to me as the newsletter would represent the stance of the entire organisation - would it not? So "mis-quote" adjusted already.
Oily
I gave no date for the aircraft arrival. I simply said it was "put off indefinately". As advised above... indefinite - "no defined date". Yes it did indeed subsequently turn up, and I was just as excited as you to see that the XR crew were finally seeing an end to the hollow promises of their management over the last 4 years.
The assertion of "storage maintenance program" was not mine Oily... You will see that it was 108vu that advised us of that fact if you go back a few posts. I was simply suggesting that such a situation would indeed ensure that the date of EIS is indefinite at best.
My agreement with XRlent that we both now refer to the aircraft as VH-FNP is based upon the fact that this is now what is written in the side of the aircraft (excellent evidence provided by XRlent). I have no idea if the rego certificate exists as it was 108vu who indicated that the piece of paper confirming the aircraft is indeed on the Oz register won't appear till closer to AOC issue. Again, stand ready to be corrected if someone knows otherwise.
Once again you guys spend all your time trying to prove my initial assertion wrong, but with no support/proof nor intestinal fortitude to suggest when the aircraft will actually enter service. Each post I read indicates I am more likely to be correct on that element than you, but then I've already put my "money" where my mouth is haven't I.
I don't fly for Strategic Chad... you're barking up the wrong tree there old boy. I'd like to, but I'm a Boeging boy. Maybe when they get their first 777 I'll jump in the seat. Got lots of mates flying there however (as I have in most other Aussie carriers). From what they tell me they are flat out. Twice weekly to the middle east, heaps of DIAC charters, off to Mackay from this week and some new RPT routes coming up also. Recruiting like crazy I understand. I'd worry less about Strategic and more about what your management are telling you if I was you.
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Alright evilc we'll just see what happens hey? I agree with you that the timeline is tight but my sources tell me that the aircraft will be in Perth by late May, early June and be undergoing some proving flights up North before its entry into service on the 5th of July.
Hey, just out of interest... I used to know a RAAF Caribou pilot how hailed from NQ that had the nickname of "Mr C". You're not one and the same person are you? PM me if you wish
Hey, just out of interest... I used to know a RAAF Caribou pilot how hailed from NQ that had the nickname of "Mr C". You're not one and the same person are you? PM me if you wish
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No mate, no military experience for me..... probably guessed from my evil undiciplined ways 
Agreed Oily, lets wait and see. Good luck to all on the project. The intro of a new type would be a stressful time.
Agreed Oily, lets wait and see. Good luck to all on the project. The intro of a new type would be a stressful time.
Airways Magazine June 2010 is sporting a photo of the new machine with the G- rego and the text indicates it is on operating lease from a company called Aviation, an associated company???
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the topend3 -
The owner of the A320 is AVATION PLC , a public company controlled basically by the Skywest Directors. You can look at terms of the lease on the London Stock Exchange under Avation News.
The owner of the A320 is AVATION PLC , a public company controlled basically by the Skywest Directors. You can look at terms of the lease on the London Stock Exchange under Avation News.
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- Aircraft due to arrive in perth August, maybe late July
- All 3 CASA required check n training and fleet manager positions externally filled (all 3 currently working in house to help get all preparations complete)
- Training for 4 internal promotions onto the bus have comenced, including line training exposure/experience with AirNZ
Sounds like a sure thing to me
- All 3 CASA required check n training and fleet manager positions externally filled (all 3 currently working in house to help get all preparations complete)
- Training for 4 internal promotions onto the bus have comenced, including line training exposure/experience with AirNZ
Sounds like a sure thing to me
I thought it was a sure thing when the bus arrived in the country...at least eventually...just became a debate between some on this forum over the exact date...
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the topend3 -
The owner of the A320 is AVATION PLC , a public company controlled basically by the Skywest Directors. You can look at terms of the lease on the London Stock Exchange under Avation News
The owner of the A320 is AVATION PLC , a public company controlled basically by the Skywest Directors. You can look at terms of the lease on the London Stock Exchange under Avation News
- All 3 CASA required check n training and fleet manager positions externally filled (all 3 currently working in house to help get all preparations complete)
The previous candidate who was sacked when the 320 was delayed had a couple of decades of airbus time including C&T, interesting contrast ?
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Airdualbleedfault- check your info, the previous candidate failed his Casa CP interview & thus was unable to hold the position he was employed for. Casa are a little harder than the Cad. His termination was thus quite reasonable. Its not the story he tells though!
Does anyone know how much experience these guys really have
Outtahere, I'll take your word for that as I can't argue the point either way