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Roberts states she wants another 30 aircraft in Aus, which is actually bigger than JQ domestic at the moment, plus Tiger push their fleet further. So they will be a significant player in 2 years time. Virgin already axed ADL-HBA, and ADL-CBR is one of Tiger's strongest routes so how long can they last?, plus they downgraded their ADL-OOL to a E190, plus reduced MEL-ADL by three. So as you said, it Seems TT vs DJ will be the case in the future..No excuse for Tiger to ignore Brisbane now seing sydney is on the cards, so wont be long till DJ's high yield routes are pounced on...
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I agree otto, esp now in this climate people are more price sensitive and do not really care about service as much. That is the reason why Qantas reported a 20% drop in premium class forward bookings. This will continue for quite some time I'm afraid. Wonder what Jet* thinks of Tiger's free fares?
looks like there are way too many Bfirst hostie now. He is also entertaining thoughts of reconfiguring seats to reflect the cheap heavy and light top trend.
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like Compass did all those years ago!!
Tiger can "want another 30 aircraft" all they want - they have not shown much of an effort to get those 30 aircraft, nor have they ever shown a profit - here or in Singapore.
I dont think any airline is in terrific shape, but VB certainly isnt "struggling to pay its bills".
I dont think any airline is in terrific shape, but VB certainly isnt "struggling to pay its bills".
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Looks like Tigga has been a very bad pussy cat.
Tiger Airways & Anzac Day: An ignorant, disrespectful and uncontactable airline ripping off a legend - Plane Talking
The comments on the blog and on the Crikey bulletin board are funny too.
Tiger Airways & Anzac Day: An ignorant, disrespectful and uncontactable airline ripping off a legend - Plane Talking
The comments on the blog and on the Crikey bulletin board are funny too.
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You have to give it to OZJET. At least when they rolled over, it was fast and with some dignity.
Talk about a long, slow death. Somebody get the tiger rifle!
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Talk about a long, slow death. Somebody get the tiger rifle!
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I appologise for the thread drift here but i just have to get this off my chest.
Airline management are the used car salesmen of the airways. It might be Tiger supposedly taking advantage of something inappropriate this time but VB, JQ and QF are lining up behind them to take credit for the next gaff.
Free fares. Great!! Look at there website, Ohh, $25 plus $5 convenience fee. Not so free but still cheap. I'll book it anyway.
You don't have to click on the confirm payment button if you don't want. You have the choice. So stop bitching about the so called injustice here.
The drivel that comes out of the mouths of these execs makes me cringe. But as i said before, apart from the odd soapboxer or 2 complaining about this scum, no one gives a rats ar$e as long as they can save a buck.
Airline management are the used car salesmen of the airways. It might be Tiger supposedly taking advantage of something inappropriate this time but VB, JQ and QF are lining up behind them to take credit for the next gaff.
Free fares. Great!! Look at there website, Ohh, $25 plus $5 convenience fee. Not so free but still cheap. I'll book it anyway.
You don't have to click on the confirm payment button if you don't want. You have the choice. So stop bitching about the so called injustice here.
The drivel that comes out of the mouths of these execs makes me cringe. But as i said before, apart from the odd soapboxer or 2 complaining about this scum, no one gives a rats ar$e as long as they can save a buck.
This crass drivel might pass for typical low grade PR on an ordinary day, but this is about Anzac Day, and this effort to cash in on it by the Singapore Airlines controlled token low cost entry in the Australian market is offensive and illegal.
I'll bite Centaurus
You might pause before having a go at the 75% (your figures) of people you think are not worthy of marching in ANZAC parades.
The people they represent and respect on that day are mostly gone now. There is no one left from WWI to march and the figures for WWII vets who have left us in the last year are disturbing.
If these people don't march to represent/remember/respect our vets, well in a short few years it will be a small march and when that happens who knows how long the younger ones will take an interest for.
Right now I think its great to see a new breed of kids wearing their relatives medals and young cadets and schools involved as well. They will never forget the day and in turn they will never forget what the vets have done for the country. Rather that then them not giving a stuff.
Not so much a dig....but a different point of view
How is this related to flying or VB.....I'll claim flying off the handle is a close as I can get and now I feel like a VB.
You might pause before having a go at the 75% (your figures) of people you think are not worthy of marching in ANZAC parades.
The people they represent and respect on that day are mostly gone now. There is no one left from WWI to march and the figures for WWII vets who have left us in the last year are disturbing.
If these people don't march to represent/remember/respect our vets, well in a short few years it will be a small march and when that happens who knows how long the younger ones will take an interest for.
Right now I think its great to see a new breed of kids wearing their relatives medals and young cadets and schools involved as well. They will never forget the day and in turn they will never forget what the vets have done for the country. Rather that then them not giving a stuff.
Not so much a dig....but a different point of view
How is this related to flying or VB.....I'll claim flying off the handle is a close as I can get and now I feel like a VB.
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Considering all the stuff written about VB and VA over the past few months it seems to have gone very quiet. The numbers show VB is holding up and perhaps even pinching some pax from QF domestically. Up 5.9% YTD.
VA appears to be around the 55-60% lf mark looking at the BITRE numbers. I wonder what the target for loads was over the first 12-18 months?
Yield is the big factor in all of this and we will have to wait till August to get a look at the real numbers.
At this stage based on only pax numbers you would have to say that they are doing as well as anyone else in OZ.
VA appears to be around the 55-60% lf mark looking at the BITRE numbers. I wonder what the target for loads was over the first 12-18 months?
Yield is the big factor in all of this and we will have to wait till August to get a look at the real numbers.
At this stage based on only pax numbers you would have to say that they are doing as well as anyone else in OZ.
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Looking at this Virgin Blue is making a few posters around here look like fools.
777s carving up the Pacific, and going up not down in the domestic scene.
Furking losers for sure.
777s carving up the Pacific, and going up not down in the domestic scene.
Furking losers for sure.
Centaurus
I quote you
"........With maybe 75 percent of the "marchers" at Anzac Day parades being relatives, kids dressed up playing at tin soldiers and other hangers on, the march is not what it was a quarter of a century ago".(bolding added)
You seem bitterly disappointed that Australia has let pass opportunity to wreck another generation of lives by sending them off to some mindless conflict on the otherside of the world.
If kids "playing at toy soldiers " is the cost of opportunity lost, then I consider it a good thing- and may it continue.
I quote you
"........With maybe 75 percent of the "marchers" at Anzac Day parades being relatives, kids dressed up playing at tin soldiers and other hangers on, the march is not what it was a quarter of a century ago".(bolding added)
You seem bitterly disappointed that Australia has let pass opportunity to wreck another generation of lives by sending them off to some mindless conflict on the otherside of the world.
If kids "playing at toy soldiers " is the cost of opportunity lost, then I consider it a good thing- and may it continue.
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MELKBQF,
How many aircraft have the Virgin Group taken delivery of in the YTD?
How many more aircraft do they have this March compared to March '08?
How many extra seats, expressed as a percentage, do the previous two questions equate to?
Are your figures still worth a smiley?
The March comparison is particularly alarming!
How many aircraft have the Virgin Group taken delivery of in the YTD?
How many more aircraft do they have this March compared to March '08?
How many extra seats, expressed as a percentage, do the previous two questions equate to?
Are your figures still worth a smiley?
The March comparison is particularly alarming!