Qantas will be dead in 6 months
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Correct Captain.Que, we are all victims of the company wide "Buggery Campaign" which is designed to get rid of all the older experienced employees & substitute us with the new programmable android types that will do what they are told without question, accept the conditions they are given without question and take 3rd world wages to boot. 
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Orang Puti:Cease and Desist
Well we agree as to who is to blame.
So stop slinging off at the men and women employed by Qantas who are doing their best under difficult circumstances.
Reserve you "ladyboy' and "old boiler" comments for your mates at your local bar.
Next time you have a shave have a good look in the mirror.
Is Brad Pitt smiling back at you?
Do you really think that a young cute Sing Air Girl would find you appealing?
To her you are no more than a seat with a mouth in it.
Sing Air girls are very adept at disguising what they think.
Its a cultural nuance.
Australians are not adept at disguising what they think.
Particularly as far as fools are concerned.
Its a cultural nuance
So stop slinging off at the men and women employed by Qantas who are doing their best under difficult circumstances.
Reserve you "ladyboy' and "old boiler" comments for your mates at your local bar.
Next time you have a shave have a good look in the mirror.
Is Brad Pitt smiling back at you?
Do you really think that a young cute Sing Air Girl would find you appealing?
To her you are no more than a seat with a mouth in it.
Sing Air girls are very adept at disguising what they think.
Its a cultural nuance.
Australians are not adept at disguising what they think.
Particularly as far as fools are concerned.
Its a cultural nuance
At least the Singaporean girls are easy on the eye and smile sweetly when you ask for a refill. Some of the Qantas girls need to have an attitude change, learn to smile and also drop a few kilos and some of the pretty boy's need to given a good feed of licorice and then retired to a stage show in King's Cross.
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You will get no argument from me that SQ have more routes, more frequency to Aussie destinations, but that's about the end of the advantage, apart from girls wearing a kabaya.
The QF business product is as good if not better than SQ business.
(see Taildragger67 post #260)
Your comment about SQ economy being as good as QF business is ridiculous.
Try it down the back in economy on a 747 on SQ and check out the the IFE that is almost 10 years.
There is no more leg room than anyone else and the food is nothing special.
You seem to have this problem with boilers and ladyboys.
Now if the boilers and ladyboys are providing bad service then your comment is valid, but I doubt it.
You cannot rate an airline and make a decision whether to fly with them based on the attractiveness of the crew.
If you do then you really are the loser.
I suspect you prefer SQ because the SQ crew don't stop serving you alcohol when you are pissed and start disturbing others in the cabin.
(This comment seems to apply to Stationair8 as well)
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Yeah right. You sound rather bitter.
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To Twiggs and Captain Que,
I accept you comments, but no one has accepted the challenge about service and who the average punter would prefer to fly with.
Sorry truth hurts again!
I know that Dixon and his morons stuffed things up but so do the feminist nazi brigade in the cabin.
Qantas would sink like a brick if it was not for the government protection it enjoys, again this is another hard truth!
Myself and station 8 represent the majority of business travellers in Asia. It is you guys and QF management who need to wake up not us we are the paying punters, dont you see that is all part of the problem you have no idea who pays your wages.
I accept you comments, but no one has accepted the challenge about service and who the average punter would prefer to fly with.
Sorry truth hurts again!
I know that Dixon and his morons stuffed things up but so do the feminist nazi brigade in the cabin.
Qantas would sink like a brick if it was not for the government protection it enjoys, again this is another hard truth!
Myself and station 8 represent the majority of business travellers in Asia. It is you guys and QF management who need to wake up not us we are the paying punters, dont you see that is all part of the problem you have no idea who pays your wages.
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I hear that funbags is up on manslaughter charges.3 people had cardiac arrest on 15th June when funbags made a post on a pilot thread.
80% of funbags posts are having a go at qf cabin crew but he reckons it's cabin crew throwing handbags
funbags if you want to see a handbag thrower look in the mirror mate.Also mate this thread is about Qantas and not a QF LH CC thread.
Heres a question.How many times does Orangputi mention "SQ beautiful attentive flight attendants".We all know why he lives in Asia and that means he really knows what ladyboys are like.I bet I know some men who couldn't get lucky in a brothel and they have to move OS to find someone.
80% of funbags posts are having a go at qf cabin crew but he reckons it's cabin crew throwing handbags
It's always handbags at twenty paces in a LHCC thread
Heres a question.How many times does Orangputi mention "SQ beautiful attentive flight attendants".We all know why he lives in Asia and that means he really knows what ladyboys are like.I bet I know some men who couldn't get lucky in a brothel and they have to move OS to find someone.
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Thanks T-Bar,
With flight attendants like you onboard you only validate my position.
There is no answers here only an attempt to the blur the truth as it hurts!
Orangputi out and as no one understands or wants the truth us punters will search for the better alternative good luck with it all!
With flight attendants like you onboard you only validate my position.
There is no answers here only an attempt to the blur the truth as it hurts!
Orangputi out and as no one understands or wants the truth us punters will search for the better alternative good luck with it all!
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Station8
Another Brad Pitt lookalike
Getover yourself you self absorbed misogynist.
What is it with ugly men and cute asian women?
Orang Puti and Staton8 you guys must have heads like dropped pies.
Ask these girls out on date and they would politely tell you to breath in three times and exhale twice
Getover yourself you self absorbed misogynist.
What is it with ugly men and cute asian women?
Orang Puti and Staton8 you guys must have heads like dropped pies.
Ask these girls out on date and they would politely tell you to breath in three times and exhale twice
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Orang Puti's Favourite Airline
Tits and Ass Airline...where you get a free lapdance by a gorgeous buxom hostie with every meal.
You guessed it...... OP is the number one frequent flyer.
You loser
You guessed it...... OP is the number one frequent flyer.
You loser
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White Man, if you are a retired engineer from Qantas who left on good terms, how is it that you're also a paying business class punter?
I would have thought your long tenure with the red rat would give you staff discount privileges.
Other posters are railing against old anger's vis-a-vis comments about old boilers and so on.
Fair go, Shags.
There were some, but as a punter on QF flights to Oz, glorious place that it is, I don't see ANY.
Actually, I'm with taildragger67.
That was a bloody good summary.
So what do you (fellow) expats have against the red rat, precisely?
I wish her well; real fair dinkum bloody well, n I'm sorry to see youse don't.
Worse, you try and disguise your contempt with hyperbole.
Whatever.
I would have thought your long tenure with the red rat would give you staff discount privileges.
Other posters are railing against old anger's vis-a-vis comments about old boilers and so on.
Fair go, Shags.
There were some, but as a punter on QF flights to Oz, glorious place that it is, I don't see ANY.
Actually, I'm with taildragger67.
That was a bloody good summary.
So what do you (fellow) expats have against the red rat, precisely?
I wish her well; real fair dinkum bloody well, n I'm sorry to see youse don't.
Worse, you try and disguise your contempt with hyperbole.
Whatever.
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All the average punter wants is good service, the occasional smile, no attitude, and to be served by someone who is not old enough to be their grandfather/mother. Oh, and it helps if the crew member sees their job as a service orientated one, and not as a free ticket to their next shopping destination.
Sadly, besides the LHR/AKL/QCCA crew, this is nothing but a pipe dream in Qantas LHCC.
Bring on the QCCA crew, bring em on!
Sadly, besides the LHR/AKL/QCCA crew, this is nothing but a pipe dream in Qantas LHCC.
Bring on the QCCA crew, bring em on!
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Sorry Funbags, let me get this straight - you're saying the new-contract QF CC are the good ones? (as in, professional) You're saying they see it as a long-term career?
Like, the LHR basers who give the term 'biscuit-thrower' a whole new meaning?
Like, the LHR basers who give the term 'biscuit-thrower' a whole new meaning?
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Can I put it to you all that the majority of Australians would much rather Qantas cabin crew over a “Singapore Girl” any day. Do not forget that young Australian are much more patriotic than previous generations. They would prefer somewhat raw service delivered by Australians. You’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. The young folk aren’t interested in a perv at the crew... come on 
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Metroman
Qatar Airways don't need to make a profit with all their reserves of natural gas, as long as its big and prestigious let the money burn.
West African saying - "He who tells the truth is not well liked."
Why is it we must pay Australian workers less to compete globally and manager more?
QF management errors have totalled billions over recent years, not including the failed APA sale which would have bankrupted QF and harmed 38000 jobs, now a fact.
The only reason Qf survives against the will of poor leadership of its past is its people.
It still remains the best and safest airline in both Australia and possibly most parts of the world after all this, just shows how far above it was and how efficient it still is, compared to others, and all with full terms and conditions.
It would be far more profitable when the staff are fully engaged and management pull their heads in and realise what really matter to make an airline profitable.
A clue,
Its not stupid exec remuneration!
Its not poor working conditions!
Its not poor wages!
Its not hot chicks!
Lead well, manage well, and respect everyone. Piss of the psychopaths and greedy pricks
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I have to laugh at Funbags posts.His posts contain nothing constructive and are nothing more than meddling,abusive posts yet at the same time continually accusing Cabin Crew of doing the same......
Actually,his post on pilot related issues are as rare as the appearance of Halley's comet .....
This thread though is about Qantas and it's ability to exist.
Actually,his post on pilot related issues are as rare as the appearance of Halley's comet .....
This thread though is about Qantas and it's ability to exist.
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Every time I've flown Qantas, it's been perfectly fine. I've always enjoyed the service and the staff.
Good luck to all, hope you can make things even better by improving your fleet age and developing new routes.
Thread lock...long overdue!
Good luck to all, hope you can make things even better by improving your fleet age and developing new routes.
Thread lock...long overdue!
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The big Picture
Please, instead of all this bitter infighting, why don't we all realise that the Airline industry is an industry in decline, designed to operate with oil under $50 bbl.
Which airline with the present price of oil and the GFC is doing well? The only ones that will survive are those with a low labour cost base, because the piece of pie spent on oil is getting bigger, so the piece spent on staff will have to get smaller - or airline goes out of business. Plus the pie gets smaller, as we all take home less pay, and spend more of it on food and petrol, power & rates, and not airline tickets and holidays. Simple.
I'm not defending QF management decisions, know nothing about them. Never worked in the QF group, never applied either. Just a general observation on the global industry.Expect more pressure on T&C by all airline management in order to survive - everywhere.
Which airline with the present price of oil and the GFC is doing well? The only ones that will survive are those with a low labour cost base, because the piece of pie spent on oil is getting bigger, so the piece spent on staff will have to get smaller - or airline goes out of business. Plus the pie gets smaller, as we all take home less pay, and spend more of it on food and petrol, power & rates, and not airline tickets and holidays. Simple.
I'm not defending QF management decisions, know nothing about them. Never worked in the QF group, never applied either. Just a general observation on the global industry.Expect more pressure on T&C by all airline management in order to survive - everywhere.