QANTAS - Working on the A380
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Anyone know what happened to the Dugong that returned to tarmac in LAX last night (QF 96?). Something to do with centre gear I believe.
How long were they delayed, or is it still there.
Maui
How long were they delayed, or is it still there.
Maui
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there is Internet on the Qantas A380 in Economy? If so, is it free?
Can't see the $$$ justification for an upgrade course.
plus when has spending money unnecessarily been a problem with these guys?
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Ditch....
I'm guessing that that cielazur is QCCA......but I don't remember those polar flights being all that popular so a chat with your manager might do the job cielazur.
Undoubtedly,someone in the office will correct me but I would imagine that they don't have enough 380's to do them yet so they will still be 400's.
It depends what aircraft you operate on cielazur...
I'm guessing that that cielazur is QCCA......but I don't remember those polar flights being all that popular so a chat with your manager might do the job cielazur.
Undoubtedly,someone in the office will correct me but I would imagine that they don't have enough 380's to do them yet so they will still be 400's.
It depends what aircraft you operate on cielazur...
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Yes you are right Lowerlobe.
Did one once myself and vowed never to "volunteer" do so again.
14 odd hour tour of duty that was basically a non stop meal/drink service.
Have never been so tired in my life at the completion of that day.
Did one once myself and vowed never to "volunteer" do so again.
14 odd hour tour of duty that was basically a non stop meal/drink service.
Have never been so tired in my life at the completion of that day.
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Agree Ditch,
I had the absolute "pleasure" (sic) of doing one about 6 years back.
What a mistake ! Never again !
You have the nobs from Croydon Travel "attempting" to call the shots.......wanting crew to turn a blind eye to some of the shenanigans that passes off for "getting their moneys worth".
75% of the punters could not give a rats rissole for the view of the ice shelf.
Its all about getting as p!s--ed as humanly possible -to see in the New Year.
They had to bring in 2 Cleaning teams when the AC arrived back in MEL ....as there was spew on walls, seats, and assorted crap all over the kite.
The crew put in a Safety Report after the flight and heard "jack" back from the gnomes in the office. I won't go into detail here of the nature of the Report -but when we informed the Capt of the flight -what had happened on FINALS-he went off his rocker !
So to take the flying Croissant down there is asking for trouble.
Please don't respond by accusing crew of breaching the RSA policy as the punters smuggled booze on in LARGE QUANTITIES ( even had "goon bags" strapped to their backs.) We even had to have a crew member positioned down at Right -5 to stop pax going up to the bunks-wanting to join the mile high club
The only way they will work is to search all pax for booze BEFORE boarding.
Hire at least 6 burley Tongan security guards and keep the seat belt sign on for long periods of time. (I hear the updrafts at minus 55 degrees south can be bad !)
In 23 years of flying-that is by far the most arduous flight I have ever done and will never do one again !
I had the absolute "pleasure" (sic) of doing one about 6 years back.
What a mistake ! Never again !
You have the nobs from Croydon Travel "attempting" to call the shots.......wanting crew to turn a blind eye to some of the shenanigans that passes off for "getting their moneys worth".
75% of the punters could not give a rats rissole for the view of the ice shelf.
Its all about getting as p!s--ed as humanly possible -to see in the New Year.
They had to bring in 2 Cleaning teams when the AC arrived back in MEL ....as there was spew on walls, seats, and assorted crap all over the kite.
The crew put in a Safety Report after the flight and heard "jack" back from the gnomes in the office. I won't go into detail here of the nature of the Report -but when we informed the Capt of the flight -what had happened on FINALS-he went off his rocker !
So to take the flying Croissant down there is asking for trouble.
Please don't respond by accusing crew of breaching the RSA policy as the punters smuggled booze on in LARGE QUANTITIES ( even had "goon bags" strapped to their backs.) We even had to have a crew member positioned down at Right -5 to stop pax going up to the bunks-wanting to join the mile high club
The only way they will work is to search all pax for booze BEFORE boarding.
Hire at least 6 burley Tongan security guards and keep the seat belt sign on for long periods of time. (I hear the updrafts at minus 55 degrees south can be bad !)
In 23 years of flying-that is by far the most arduous flight I have ever done and will never do one again !
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Pax view of QF A380 vs 747 cabin crew
It is an interesting read, to see the different unions view on each other merits in this post. I just thought I'd add a Pax's view on the merits of the various crews.
Firstly this year I have flown an equal mix of 747/A380 and equal mix of Business and Economy, and frankly my verdict is hands down - A380 cabin crew are FAR superior to the B747 crews. Hmm, it seems as though they are the cheaper crews too - so I guess QF isn't getting what they pay for.
1. Professionalism; None of the 380 crew were sitting in their seats, sending text messages during landing - even if the phone is approved for use during landing. None of the A380 crew were having shouted conversations during landing about how others in the company earn more than them (ie one Crew was sitting at the left door, the other at the right door.)
2. Customer Service - it was darn hard to get decent service with the 747 crews - even when in Business. Everything was too much trouble, like a bottle of water. The A380 staff seemed a lot happier to be there, and gave service with a smile.
3. Safety - My infant daughter is a rather well travelled girl - probably 16 flights in 8 months.The A380 were the most attentive in making sure we understood how the seatbelts work, and importantly what the brace/emergency actions were for us with our daughter. One of the 747 crews didn't even to bother to ask us if we had used the infant belt before, nor if we knew how to operate the bassinet.
This is just a few examples, but the overall experience between the 747 crews and the A380 crews clearly weighs in the A380s favour.
Firstly this year I have flown an equal mix of 747/A380 and equal mix of Business and Economy, and frankly my verdict is hands down - A380 cabin crew are FAR superior to the B747 crews. Hmm, it seems as though they are the cheaper crews too - so I guess QF isn't getting what they pay for.
1. Professionalism; None of the 380 crew were sitting in their seats, sending text messages during landing - even if the phone is approved for use during landing. None of the A380 crew were having shouted conversations during landing about how others in the company earn more than them (ie one Crew was sitting at the left door, the other at the right door.)
2. Customer Service - it was darn hard to get decent service with the 747 crews - even when in Business. Everything was too much trouble, like a bottle of water. The A380 staff seemed a lot happier to be there, and gave service with a smile.
3. Safety - My infant daughter is a rather well travelled girl - probably 16 flights in 8 months.The A380 were the most attentive in making sure we understood how the seatbelts work, and importantly what the brace/emergency actions were for us with our daughter. One of the 747 crews didn't even to bother to ask us if we had used the infant belt before, nor if we knew how to operate the bassinet.
This is just a few examples, but the overall experience between the 747 crews and the A380 crews clearly weighs in the A380s favour.
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Put your flak jacket and helmet on planeguy! It's about to be incoming!
The long haul cabin crew Sydney based empire will be out in force soon.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Time to get rid of the dead wood and get the QCCA youngies in! They actually want to provide a service to the customer, and don't just see the job as a ticket to their next shopping destination.
No better comparison than 380 versus 747 crew, as you have so succinctly put it.
The long haul cabin crew Sydney based empire will be out in force soon.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Time to get rid of the dead wood and get the QCCA youngies in! They actually want to provide a service to the customer, and don't just see the job as a ticket to their next shopping destination.
No better comparison than 380 versus 747 crew, as you have so succinctly put it.
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A380 Crews cf. 747 crews
1.There are 22 crew on an A380.So you have 7 more crew for 60 more pax.
2.The A380 has an IFE System that works
3.The 747 crews are working with vastly inferior hard product
4.The A380 crews have not been with QF long enough to be bent over and disengaged.There are however rumblings of discontent and they are getting louder
5.Slip time in ports are generally longer for A380 crews.
6.A portion of the A380 crews(20%) are long serving 744 crews doing a 2 year stint on the dugong
If you are proud to go work on a brand new A380 with all the latest bells and whistles its bound to elevate your customer service level.
Going to work on an aging 744 or an even more ancient 767 is definitley not motivating.You are behind the 8 ball before you even open your mouth
2.The A380 has an IFE System that works
3.The 747 crews are working with vastly inferior hard product
4.The A380 crews have not been with QF long enough to be bent over and disengaged.There are however rumblings of discontent and they are getting louder
5.Slip time in ports are generally longer for A380 crews.
6.A portion of the A380 crews(20%) are long serving 744 crews doing a 2 year stint on the dugong
If you are proud to go work on a brand new A380 with all the latest bells and whistles its bound to elevate your customer service level.
Going to work on an aging 744 or an even more ancient 767 is definitley not motivating.You are behind the 8 ball before you even open your mouth
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None of the A380 crew were having shouted conversations during landing about how others in the company earn more than them (ie one Crew was sitting at the left door, the other at the right door.)
None of the 380 crew were sitting in their seats, sending text messages during landing
Sounds like a "group" with a particular agenda to push [and cost savings to make] is starting to get somewhat desperate.
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SMS During Landing.What The ?
Any crew member on my watch SMSing during the critical phase of landing would be stood down immediately.
In fact I would like the flight details.Departure port,date and flight number.
These allegatioins are most serious and need investigation.
PM me.
Either verify the allegations or remove them
Shouted conversations about wages would come from QCCA crew.The new and Y Generation employees
In fact I would like the flight details.Departure port,date and flight number.
These allegatioins are most serious and need investigation.
PM me.
Either verify the allegations or remove them
Shouted conversations about wages would come from QCCA crew.The new and Y Generation employees
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Gee Defcon, I wonder why the new and y generation crew would be shouting conversations about wages. Because you and your mates voted them onto a b scale in your last EBA, for the quick money grab for yourselves! Same job, less pay. Nice one!
Time to get rid of the deadwood and start to resurrect the premium service again. This can only be done with more new crew.
Time to get rid of the deadwood and start to resurrect the premium service again. This can only be done with more new crew.
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He is back
One of his original posts "Just like the way I get stuck into Sydney based LHCC". nothing like a dumped techie. mate, you have to get over the Sydney based LH hostie which dumped you. so much poisen.
........sad character
thankfully there are not many of you.
if you would display this attitude on my flight, the fleet manager would be busy....
........sad characterthankfully there are not many of you.
if you would display this attitude on my flight, the fleet manager would be busy....
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PlaneGuy013's comments need a little clarification before judgement can be made.
For example, if he was comparing A380 and 747 flights ex LHR, he would be probably comparing crew from within the LHR base only, ie the same crew.
If he is comparing flights ex Australia then his comments are relevant.
Without a doubt, talking on jumpseats is an issue, just see the results of the latest audits.
I think PlaneGuy013 may have been a little inaccurate though when he implied 747 crew used mobile phones during landing.
More likely it was during taxi after landing, not acceptable still, but far less dramatic than during landing.
For example, if he was comparing A380 and 747 flights ex LHR, he would be probably comparing crew from within the LHR base only, ie the same crew.
If he is comparing flights ex Australia then his comments are relevant.
Without a doubt, talking on jumpseats is an issue, just see the results of the latest audits.
I think PlaneGuy013 may have been a little inaccurate though when he implied 747 crew used mobile phones during landing.
More likely it was during taxi after landing, not acceptable still, but far less dramatic than during landing.
