QF EBA Voted Down
liger, Daniel & Blow.n. It sounds like you don't know the new AIPA executive members very well. These guys will negotiate with QF management just as aggressively as IW's team but will have a much more structured approach. These guys are there for bettering members conditions - not for their own personal gains.
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Within six months you will regret this impulsive decision then you will be in for 18 months of pain.
I really feel sorry for you guys (and gals) you have cut off your nose to spite your face and you will pay heavily for your stupidity.
Within six months you will regret this impulsive decision then you will be in for 18 months of pain.
I really feel sorry for you guys (and gals) you have cut off your nose to spite your face and you will pay heavily for your stupidity.
Dragon Man,
It appears your head is firmly up your own .....
I voted 'no'. Not to keep a ridiculously out of date and dinosaur making document, but so that EBA 8 could have the problems with it corrected. If trucks could be driven through it, then so can our current document. Not one of those who made fools of themselves on Qrewroom by showing your complete ignorance to our current EBA when posting about clauses in EBA8 were you?
EBA8 has the potential to be a fantastic document. It just needs some modifications. EBA 7 +++ is a completely stupid and out of step way to go. I KNOW that I am not the only one who thinks this way.
M
It appears your head is firmly up your own .....
I voted 'no'. Not to keep a ridiculously out of date and dinosaur making document, but so that EBA 8 could have the problems with it corrected. If trucks could be driven through it, then so can our current document. Not one of those who made fools of themselves on Qrewroom by showing your complete ignorance to our current EBA when posting about clauses in EBA8 were you?
EBA8 has the potential to be a fantastic document. It just needs some modifications. EBA 7 +++ is a completely stupid and out of step way to go. I KNOW that I am not the only one who thinks this way.
M
Nunc est bibendum
Whats wrong with the seniority based system, 76% of those that voted on the EBA voted to keep it.
Fleet pay is a great idea. CAO48 exemption is a great idea when it has sound barriers around the sectors we utilise it on. A bonus bank is a great idea. What did EBA8 in wasn't the philosophy of it, it was the pure numbers.
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I voted no because I have just won command of a nice new airbus with two decks and think this entitles me to double the wage of others. I am better, I am smarter and I am your new leader. In future I would like to known as Captain President. 
I'd like to see any 'premium' destined for the A380 utilised to beef up A330/787/777/A350/767
You're dream is now dead. The new team is on record as saying 10 - 15% as an interim solution for A380. They are on record as believing the NO vote was all the proof needed that the membership rejected any notion of Fleet Pay paid for by spreading the wealth around.
President, VP and VP A380 Capts - what do we expect..
You've seen Dixon Pty Ltd hit costs when things have been going well. Well just wait and see their determination next year when I dare say planes will be parked!
10-15% above 400 rates is a futile dream.
Good luck!
By the way can anyone post the % difference EK and SQ pay above existing type rates? That will be the only ammo AIPA could use in such a claim.
10-15% above 400 rates is a futile dream.
Good luck!
By the way can anyone post the % difference EK and SQ pay above existing type rates? That will be the only ammo AIPA could use in such a claim.
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Personally I don't reckon that we can justify a pay rise for the A380....particularly the S/Os.
Enough said...literally!
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Stick it to them lads, but just make sure you don't end up with to many line blokes who become "Seagulls". (You have to throw rocks at em to make them fly) they are after a nice cushy job, with a little office girl to make their tea, and home for a game of golf. They have appeared in every generation of pilots, in every airline. I have seen it all.
