QF EBA Voted Down
 

Just Heard that the LH EBA was vote down by 76% Against, cant believe that there are still 24% that voted for it.

Good job boys

I think the sky is about to fall in. Duck!


Oh wait a minute....maybe not

Forgot to add: with 76% No - is it
a) a slap in the face to the company
b) a slap in the face to AIPA and those who chose not to ask the members what they wanted (some AIPA reps did not agree with whole EBA process)
c) both a and b
d) something else.....(ie a and b above is to harsh)

The voting for Long Haul EBA 8 has concluded and AIPA has been advised that 1661 long haul voters have returned the following result:

Yes: 398
No: 1263

Personally I find the outcome to be a surprising result and members are hereby informed that an Extraordinary Committee of Management (COM) meeting has been called for Friday, 26 September. The Extraordinary COM meeting will authorise a membership survey to determine, amongst other things, the membership resolve behind the vote and soon thereafter a Special General Meeting (SGM) will be held to help determine the best way forward.

On behalf of the membership, I wish to extend my heartfelt thanks to the Long Haul EBA 8 Negotiating Team for the many, many hours of tireless effort put in on behalf of all members.

Rest assured AIPA members will be kept informed about all consultative arrangements put in place and notified well in advance of when the SGM will be held. In the meantime, please continue to operate in the professional manner Qantas flight crew are globally renowned for.

With Regards,

xxxx

Now, if they only had 866 pilots on AWA's - re-vote - bingo!

So it should only be a matter of minutes before di*kson/joyce pumps up the media campaign crying poor that AIPA have renigged on their "agreement" with the company. "Doom, gloom, oil prices, competiton, union bullies, pilots aren't thinking of our customers, end of the world etc". I can here it already.

Correction: Share Holders.:ugh:

So, let the games begin! :D:D:D

Admittedly, I'm very surprised at the vote.

I honestly didn't believe we mainline pilots had enough guts to reject a crap EBA. I thought a slim majority would go all wobbly at the knees with the first hint of "If you reject this you'll be struck dead by lightning and burn in hell forever.......etc, etc" coming from QCA and vote in favour.

I stand corrected. Very corrected. (I voted "No", BTW).

Whats the bet the word will come down from the Big Office to have this EBA finalised prior to November.
Why you might ask?
The last thing the departing Qantas executives would want is the share price to dip below $3.64 prior to the maturing of their executive bonus traunch.:}

Here we go again, a totally unrelated thread and some d!ckheads manage to turn out anti Jetstar pilot crap.

With comments like those from Mohikan and Marvel is there any wonder that most JQ pilots are somewhat 'apprehensive' about their Mainline 'brothers'.

Apprehensive about their mainline brothers???????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

OMG!! Have you been on another planet?

May I remind JJW that the JQ pilots are the tools of choice for QF Group management to shaft, screw and undermine the mainline pilots.

Who is apprehensive about who?

Well LAMEs can huff a temporary sigh of relief (our buggery campaign still continues). Some of the pressure can now be directed at you, boys and girls.

Anyhow the QF IR shafting campaign should be alot quicker and cheaper, just substitute 'Pilot' for 'LAME' on ALL documentation.

The results of the initial LAME vote surprised me but should we really be surprised that employees collectively feel like this when our Management have tried their darnest to alient every one of us?

Keep up the good fight.

I would like to commend the 74% of people who voted NO! I reckon I know who the 26% were, well not personally but I know the sterotype....;)

Although it is really none of my business, can I just say one thing, please don't feather your own retirement nest at the expense of new hirees!

Cheers, HH.:ok:

The people who I spoke to and said they were voting yes, were incredibly pro company - (as opposed to an even balance) - generally appeared to think that voting yes was the best way of maximising their own personal financial gain irrespective of the cost - to others - and I think some hadn't thought about the lifestyle cost to themselves. As others have alluded to - the yes voters I met appear to be all of a similar character/mindset.

A very big (b)

Yes I totally agree with (b).

The company I think will just shrug their shoulders and get on with renegotiating something which fits into their agenda as best as possible.

As for the AIPA leadership: Well, it appears that the position of some of them must surely be untenable now. They were elected on a "promise" and they failed to deliver anything. Then after spruiking how good "their" EBA was, they were bitch-slapped all the way into next week.

Looks like elements of a political campaign were used during this EBA vote to discredit the present hierarchy.
I wonder what will result when the retreads from the Holt era take over?:}

Max Autobrakes,
Get a life son......Holt is long gone.....as has his mate Manning. The present Hierarchy in AIPA forgot to talk to the people who pay there dues....It's not the end of the world..cheer up.:)

Mohikan

I don't know what Rick Heaton has to do with anything as the JPA/G/C has had two glorious leaders since Rick had anything to do with it.
Interestingly 24% of 2500 ? Qantas pilots adds up to more than 100% of Jetstar pilots.:eek: