Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

Merged: PNG CAA Air Safety: ABC Foreign Correspondent

Wikiposts
Search
Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

Merged: PNG CAA Air Safety: ABC Foreign Correspondent

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 08:37
  #61 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
absolutely correct

Sid O'T
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 08:49
  #62 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
torres

Yep''

20 minutes of being infamous is the way i would put it. the following day the executive committee of the DOT summonsed me and every body else to appear in the secretarys office complete with 3 lawyers.

The grilling lasted for 3 hours but I took notes and after being given the chance to tok tok I shot him down in flames.

Thank god i had a night off the sp the night before. mind you i suspected it was going to haopopen.

anyway I contacted the abc sy office ad spoke to the exec producer of the programme and she said to me that if they sacked me ( tok tok at the time in the papers) they would run another show using the other 3 hours of material I had given them

The comment at the time was well it will be a lot worse.

It doesnt matter anyway they havent changed. No gat moni not gat internet etc etc etc etc but hey they gat moni to go ovrseas for free piss ups etc etc

Sid
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 09:00
  #63 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Queensland
Posts: 2,422
Received 8 Likes on 4 Posts
I spoke to two ex PNG Prime Ministers only last week. They certainly did not appear to be suffering the normal physical ravages of a poor third world economy....
Torres is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 09:22
  #64 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Torres, you can include the current one as well.

It may not be politically correct to say so but had PNG not dropped the "T" in 1975 the people and the country would be far better off than they are now.

What Sid is trying to do is simply shake up the Poyles of PNG into action, something I fear will not be achieved.

It actually makes me sad to see the place now.

tipsy
tipsy2 is offline  
Old 22nd Jan 2009, 23:20
  #65 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ICAO audit in PNG 5 mar 2009

In response to your earlier comment on the icao audit on the 5 mar 09. I have just finished all the icao paper work for the aic !!!!! audit.

The outfit will catergorically fail miserably.

I wonder what next !!!!!!

Sid Otoole
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2009, 05:16
  #66 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Various
Age: 74
Posts: 378
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Given the report in today's Post Courier on page 5, I recon the CAA may just be getting a bit worried.

Seems like the CAA are now pointing their fingures at the government.

Waghi Warrior is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2009, 07:36
  #67 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: International
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Don't know why they would be worried - I hear a "Savior" has been engaged for the ICAO audit!
Air Ace is offline  
Old 26th Jan 2009, 10:11
  #68 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 512
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Back during a period that causes raised blood pressures and acrimonious diatribes from both sides, I was working in the operations areas of one of the major airlines. Each day it was part of my job to report the airlines previous days activities, flights, pax carried etc to a DoT man with the same name as the above mentioned "Savior" (sic). It became quite apparent to me that he was actually orchestrating the governments role in the happening dispute. He was actually the 'puppet master' pulling the strings and deserves to be regarded with equal disdain as is the 'silver bodgie'.

If the "Savior" is involved in the ICAO Audit of the PNG CAA then I perceive a serious conflict of interest is involved.

The "Savior" is also the headhunter engaged by the PNG CAA to locate candidates for various senior positions withing that organisation (see RD Collins & Associates | Recruitment - Positions Vacant | Aviation consultants, executive coaching)

I do not believe the same organisation can both audt and act as a contrator for the PNG CAA. A blatant conflict of interest.

Perhaps Mr Kintau would care to comment or perhaps take advice from a large heli operator on what to say.
Checklist Charlie is offline  
Old 27th Jan 2009, 08:28
  #69 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 684
Received 81 Likes on 25 Posts
Red face

Air Ace.......

It's my understanding that if the so-called/alleged "saviour" has been engaged, then he would have been engaged by ICAO and not by the PNG CAA. And if that's the case then his involvement in the recent CAA recruitment drive may well be a classic conflict-of-interest. But why should any of us who know what happens in PNG be surprised by this??

I think Wahgi Warrior's 'on the money'............the CAA would at this stage be sh1tt1ng bricks I think on the certainty of another negative ICAO audit outcome for PNG, as per Sid's comments:

The outfit will catergorically fail miserably. I wonder what next !!!!!!


What should really be disturbing is that the (non-compliance) situation was first identified in, what.......2001?? Then again in about 2003???? And still nothing's been done to remedy the problems!!

Sid............better pack your bags and head south mate. You'll be more comfortable AND safer I reckon.
SIUYA is offline  
Old 29th Jan 2009, 08:07
  #70 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
re your reply on the abc

Thanks for your reply

it is sicerely like pushing s..t up hill'

jurst for your infor the job was done to intnlo standards sith surveyors and company tech reps from brazil.

its a sahme the whole thing turned to **** when they stopped money for the job to be finished

Tks

sid
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 30th Jan 2009, 18:59
  #71 (permalink)  
Silly Old Git
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: saiba spes
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
How the hell does anyone get any insurance cover up there?
tinpis is offline  
Old 2nd Feb 2009, 06:33
  #72 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 512
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Found this PNG needs $770m airport upgrade: authority - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) on the ABC website. Similar article in Post Guria this morning.

PNG needs $770m airport upgrade: authority

By PNG correspondent Steve Marshall
Posted 1 hour 31 minutes ago
Updated 1 hour 32 minutes ago
The Papua New Guinea Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) says it needs to spend $770 million to upgrade its airports.
Last year an investigative report by the ABC exposed a number of deficiencies within the authority.
CAA boss Joseph Kintau says most of country's airports are ill-equipped to handle Focker F100 planes, which carry up to 100 people.
Mr Kintau has placed advertisements in the daily newspapers to try and pressure the Government to release the funding.
"The urgency of replacement of infrastructure has not been fully appreciated by all stakeholders," he said.
"The longer we delay, the effect in the aviation and air transport in this country will be adversely affected."
A lack of funds continues to prevent investigations into aircraft crashes which have killed 16 people - including three Australians - since 2000.
An accident commission was recently established to clear the backlog, but a CAA insider says the commission has no money.
Checklist Charlie is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2009, 02:09
  #73 (permalink)  
Bugsmasherdriverandjediknite
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Bai, mi go long hap na kisim sampla samting.
Posts: 2,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
An accident commission was recently established to clear the backlog, but a CAA insider says the commission has no money.
I bet I know who that is.
so when did anyone in the PNG government have any money?.
the wizard of auz is offline  
Old 27th Feb 2009, 03:02
  #74 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 512
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
so when did anyone in the PNG government have any money?.
Wiz, if you follow closely behind most politicians and senior public officials in PNG and pick up what falls out of their pockets you will be a very rich man.

I've heard about pollies and exec's becoming the owners of nice real estate in Singapore, Brissy and Cairns after the lease of an aircraft was 'formalised'.

I also believe there is a shortage of brown envelopes and brown paper bags in PNG as well for some obscure reason
Checklist Charlie is offline  
Old 1st Mar 2009, 08:17
  #75 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Granite Belt, Australia
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
One out of office - at the time - politician (who subsequently became Minister for Civil Aviation) stated in the Post Courier that he had to get back into politics to pay off his debts. Now, what does that tell you?
Animalclub is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2009, 00:52
  #76 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re The Png Icao Audit

Dare I ask who is the "saviour" for the4 fast kapproaching ICAO audit ???

Sid O'Toole
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2009, 01:09
  #77 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re Your Comment On The Fatal Skies

I really appreciate all the comment in this forum re the abc programme.

Well guess what ? After all the who haa and what happened in the media and the attempts by CAA to discreditg me I am still here (fighting).

I guess it boils down to one point nobody else is stupid enough to put up with all this s..t

Sid O'Toole
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2009, 01:24
  #78 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 512
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Sid, see the link RD Collins & Associates

in my 26th January 2009, 21:11 post.

If you get to talk to him, make sure which particular face you are actually talking to at the time. It could change a number of times during any one conversation.
Checklist Charlie is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2009, 01:35
  #79 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PNG
Age: 77
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re Your Comment On The Icao Audit Next Week In Png

gUESS WHAT ?

THEY GAVE ME THE PRE AUDIT PAPER WORK TO COMPLETE IN PREPARATION FOR THE ICAO AUDIT.

TO COIN A PHRASE THEY PUT THE LION IN CHARGE OF THE CHOOK PEN SO TO SPEAK. THE AIC (IF IT CAN BE CALLED THAT) WILL CATEGORICALLY FAIL MISERABLY.

TO QUOTE A VERY SENIOR PERSON IN THE ATSB IN CANBERRA THE AUDIT HAS DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR PNG AVIATION.

IT IS INTERESTING HOWEVER THAT EVERY DAY STARTS THE SAME UP HERE, FIGHTING OVER MONEY TO GET THINGS DONE IE MONEY

SID O"Toole
sid Otoole is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2009, 04:18
  #80 (permalink)  
Bugsmasherdriverandjediknite
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Bai, mi go long hap na kisim sampla samting.
Posts: 2,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apart from effecting the international ops, how will failing the audit effect the industry?. domestically at least?.
Checklist Charlie, I was referring to monies available for the public good, not for the good of an individual. I am aware of how the pollies are feathering their own nests.... It is after all PNG.
Brown paper bag shortage is a common occurrence in that and parts further west.
the wizard of auz is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.