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TIGER Airways could be grounded beyond August 1, if it fails to meet all safety requirements, CASA has warned.
Any further delays to return to the skies will cause more frustration to passengers who had booked flights, causing the cancellation of 60 flights - affecting about 9000 passengers - every day.
The airline failed to act on warnings given by the aviation safety regulator over a frustrating three month period, it has been revealed.
John McCormick, director of Aviation Safety at the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, has today described the drawn-out process that eventually lead to the suspension of Tiger Airways.
He said CASA would complete its investigation by or before August 1, 2011, but warned the airline would not automatically return to the skies.
Any further delays to return to the skies will cause more frustration to passengers who had booked flights, causing the cancellation of 60 flights - affecting about 9000 passengers - every day.
The airline failed to act on warnings given by the aviation safety regulator over a frustrating three month period, it has been revealed.
John McCormick, director of Aviation Safety at the Civil Aviation Safety Authority, has today described the drawn-out process that eventually lead to the suspension of Tiger Airways.
He said CASA would complete its investigation by or before August 1, 2011, but warned the airline would not automatically return to the skies.
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The Tiger crews have been doing sim training at the Ansett sim facility.
Does anyone out there think CASA will treat Thai and Virgin the same way as they treated TT, CASA used the Avalon incident as there reason for the grounding. Thai had an incident over Sunshine on the 24th and Virgin had a similar incident on the 19th at Mackay?
Does anyone out there think CASA will treat Thai and Virgin the same way as they treated TT, CASA used the Avalon incident as there reason for the grounding. Thai had an incident over Sunshine on the 24th and Virgin had a similar incident on the 19th at Mackay?
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Suggest you read the whole thread, at least from just before the grounding. The AV incident was THE FINAL STRAW, not THE reason. Much more to the story. So, to answer your question, probably not.
From the ATSB web site, the Virgin "Mackay Incident" was descent outside controlled airspace. Certainly not condoning such actions but it's a bit of a stretch to compare with flight below minimum safe altitude.
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Reading the previous posts you have then got to decide what is Fact and what is Fiction (Rumor Net), are these people in the know i.e. CASA or Tiger employees, there are a lot of Tiger hunters out there who would like to see them hunted to extinction from the Australian Skies and would knock them at any chance that would arise. In the few years that they have trolling the plains of the Australian skies they had managed to take 30+ % of the domestic market. Since the grounding both CASA & Tiger have been pretty quiet, is CASA taking aim the fire the FATAL shot or TIGER getting ready to pounce and bite back. Personally I hope Tiger pounce back with a vengeance.
Like Ryanair in Europe everybody dishes them but they still get bums on seats.
P.S. I don’t work for CASA or TIGER.
So does it depend on the severity of the "operational non-compliance" to what action they take to me CASA have now set precedence?
We are all fast at jumping on the band wagon stating hearsay or rec room gossip or as stated on a previous post a "stewardess told me".
Is there any one that has posted on this thread been at any of the talks with CASA & Tiger that could state all issues that have lead to the grounding?
Thank you people for pointing out my error I was thinking about the share holding that Sin have in Tiger, you are quite correct they only have about 5% share of the market. I have been having trouble all day trying to reply to your comments so I have taken this route.
Like Ryanair in Europe everybody dishes them but they still get bums on seats.
P.S. I don’t work for CASA or TIGER.
From the ATSB web site, the Virgin "Mackay Incident" was descent outside controlled airspace. Certainly not condoning such actions but it's a bit of a stretch to compare with flight below minimum safe altitude.
So does it depend on the severity of the "operational non-compliance" to what action they take to me CASA have now set precedence?
We are all fast at jumping on the band wagon stating hearsay or rec room gossip or as stated on a previous post a "stewardess told me".
Is there any one that has posted on this thread been at any of the talks with CASA & Tiger that could state all issues that have lead to the grounding?
Thank you people for pointing out my error I was thinking about the share holding that Sin have in Tiger, you are quite correct they only have about 5% share of the market. I have been having trouble all day trying to reply to your comments so I have taken this route.
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30% of the market? With 10 jets?
30%? PLEASE!!! Send me the contact details of your dealer. Whatever it is you're smoking, I WANT SOME!
That was an error on my part I was thinking of company shares owned by sin, there market share is about 5%.
Probably 30% of the bogans in Australia. Certainly not 30% of the market.
As for the "BOGAN" term that gets branded about referring to a lower class of the population we will all soon be "BOGANS" with the way this country is taxing us.
I myself must be a "BOGAN", from a working class background studied hard and have now spent 29 years in the industry Military and Civilian.
And I have seen just as Many "BOGANS" waiting to board QF, J* & VA flights.
Tiny1 how did you arrive at
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This link is for Qld only but shows about 6% market share to Tiger.
http://www.tq.com.au/fms/tq_corporat...Published).pdf
This article claims 6% nationally.
News analysis: The plight of Tiger Airways | Travel Weekly
This article claims about 5% nationally.
Flight of Tiger from Australia far from certain
they had managed to take 30+ % of the domestic market
This link is for Qld only but shows about 6% market share to Tiger.
http://www.tq.com.au/fms/tq_corporat...Published).pdf
This article claims 6% nationally.
News analysis: The plight of Tiger Airways | Travel Weekly
This article claims about 5% nationally.
Flight of Tiger from Australia far from certain
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This strategy guarantees that the AV incident will never be repeated:
Tiger expected to quit Avalon
Tiger expected to quit Avalon
Tiger is also believed to be planning to abandon its base at Avalon Airport. Its main base in Australia is at Melbourne Airport.
1 week to take off
GROUNDED airline Tiger Airways Australia expects to be cleared to fly again shortly, possibly from next Friday.
The air safety regulator has not yet lifted Tiger's suspension but today issued the airline with a set of formal conditions it has to meet before it can resume flights.
Tiger's grounding runs until Monday but the airline has indicated that Friday, August 5, is the earliest that its domestic flights may resume.
"As a result of the progress made since 1 July 2011, Tiger Airways Australia is confident that it can comply with these conditions and expects to resume services in the near future," a statement by its Singapore-based parent company Tiger Airways Holdings said.
Read more: Tiger expects quick clearance to fly | News.com.au
The air safety regulator has not yet lifted Tiger's suspension but today issued the airline with a set of formal conditions it has to meet before it can resume flights.
Tiger's grounding runs until Monday but the airline has indicated that Friday, August 5, is the earliest that its domestic flights may resume.
"As a result of the progress made since 1 July 2011, Tiger Airways Australia is confident that it can comply with these conditions and expects to resume services in the near future," a statement by its Singapore-based parent company Tiger Airways Holdings said.
Read more: Tiger expects quick clearance to fly | News.com.au
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I hear on the grapevine today that Tiger will re-commence ops with only two aircraft and be permitted to increase the number only after satisfying CASA that they are fully compliant.
The EBA is CR@P, but it is the E.B.Agreement. To date, the Jetstar contract offers have been nothing short of scandalous.
I have friends in Tiger, and I hope they remain solid.
If they offer you anything but the EBA, just point them in the direction of the Federal court, and don't lose sight of the battle and sacrifices your fellow pilots have, and still are, waging.
I have friends in Tiger, and I hope they remain solid.
If they offer you anything but the EBA, just point them in the direction of the Federal court, and don't lose sight of the battle and sacrifices your fellow pilots have, and still are, waging.
Muff: Word is JQ want as many as 20 TGR CPT's to employ as direct entry's.
Sunstar: Muff you are dreaming mate....
Sorry but why would working for JQ be 'dreaming'
Nightmare per chance?
Sunstar: Muff you are dreaming mate....
Sorry but why would working for JQ be 'dreaming'
Nightmare per chance?
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How many TGW Drivers want to work for the QF group these days? Thats right, none. Alot have already been there in the past and dont want to go back which is why next to nobody have jumped ship over the past 4 years.
Most have gone to Strategic, who are getting a few more A330's soon, so there goes the next lot of Tiger guys (most are 330 rated), otherwise a few have headed for EY and co.
Most have gone to Strategic, who are getting a few more A330's soon, so there goes the next lot of Tiger guys (most are 330 rated), otherwise a few have headed for EY and co.