QF to shed 2000 jobs
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I am sure that in engineering,any redundancy,both CR or VR if offered,would be oversubscribed.
And there would be plenty of people in other departments within the organisation willing to leave voluntarily to make up the magic 2000...........
And there would be plenty of people in other departments within the organisation willing to leave voluntarily to make up the magic 2000...........
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Good luck to all those QF staff who will be affected.
What makes this whole state of affairs even sadder is that an overseas recruiting company is advertising for crew with right of abode in Australia for positions on A320/A330/B787 aircraft based in Melbourne. Hmmm, wonder who that could be for! More cheap labour to lower conditions.
The sooner GD goes the better.
What makes this whole state of affairs even sadder is that an overseas recruiting company is advertising for crew with right of abode in Australia for positions on A320/A330/B787 aircraft based in Melbourne. Hmmm, wonder who that could be for! More cheap labour to lower conditions.
The sooner GD goes the better.
Qantas labels job cuts as speculation
The Age July 17, 2008 - 11:31AM
Qantas has labelled claims in media reports that it is about to axe 2,000 jobs worldwide in a bid to offset skyrocketing jet fuel prices as "pure speculation".
Following an internal email issued to Qantas staff this week, reports in News Ltd papers suggested that the national carrier will slash up to 2,000 jobs next week, or about five per cent of its 36,000 strong workforce.
No work sections were expected to escape the cuts, the reports said, including senior management.
The airline is also expected to announce cuts to loss-making flight routes from both domestic and international schedules.
A Qantas spokesperson declined to comment on the job cuts, describing the reports as "pure speculation".
The spokesperson confirmed that chief executive Geoff Dixon had issued a message to staff on Tuesday in which he indicated that the results of an in-depth business review of the Qantas group would be released next week.
"The continuing increase in the price of oil has necessitated a further in-depth review of all aspects of the Qantas Group, particularly how our flying business will operate in this new cost environment," Mr Dixon wrote in the email.
"We undertake this review with some reluctance - knowing full well the effort put in and the changes accepted by all of us at Qantas over the past 10 years.
"However, the facts are that oil prices staying at over $US140-plus a barrel has changed forever the way we do business."
Overnight, oil prices settled sharply lower falling $US4.14 to $US134.60 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The drop follows a $US6.44 sell-off Tuesday.
The two-day slide of $US10.58 a barrel marks a dramatic turnaround in crude prices, which as recently as Friday traded at record highs above $US147 a barrel.
But even with this week's sell-off, prices remain about 80 per cent above where they were a year ago.
Qantas and Jetstar's fuel bill will increase by more than $2 billion in 2008/09, representing around 35 per cent of the company's total expenditure.
Mr Dixon also wrote that he agreed with the comments of Emirates president Tim Clark, who said "this is the greatest crisis in aviation history" and that "the overall view of our industry is dire".
Mr Dixon went on to comment on the challenges of industrial action faced by Qantas.
"For Qantas the immediate issues facing the whole industry are being further exacerbated by the continuing industrial action by the ALAEA, the union representing 1,500 staff in Qantas Engineering.
"As you are acutely aware, this action is causing severe disruption to our network and services at a time when we can least afford it."
Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation executive chairman Peter Harbison said Mr Dixon's message suggested that the airline would focus more on its low cost offshoot Jetstar.
"I think the natural progression is to rely much more heavily on the lower cost-base Jetstar in this new environment."
Last month Qantas pruned about 100 staff and cut back capacity by five per cent - the equivalent of grounding six aircraft.
Virgin Blue has recently cut capacity by six per cent and announced a $50 million package of cost savings to help offset the effect of record jet fuel prices.
Virgin Blue is expected to unveil a second tranche of restructuring this week.
The Age July 17, 2008 - 11:31AM
Qantas has labelled claims in media reports that it is about to axe 2,000 jobs worldwide in a bid to offset skyrocketing jet fuel prices as "pure speculation".
Following an internal email issued to Qantas staff this week, reports in News Ltd papers suggested that the national carrier will slash up to 2,000 jobs next week, or about five per cent of its 36,000 strong workforce.
No work sections were expected to escape the cuts, the reports said, including senior management.
The airline is also expected to announce cuts to loss-making flight routes from both domestic and international schedules.
A Qantas spokesperson declined to comment on the job cuts, describing the reports as "pure speculation".
The spokesperson confirmed that chief executive Geoff Dixon had issued a message to staff on Tuesday in which he indicated that the results of an in-depth business review of the Qantas group would be released next week.
"The continuing increase in the price of oil has necessitated a further in-depth review of all aspects of the Qantas Group, particularly how our flying business will operate in this new cost environment," Mr Dixon wrote in the email.
"We undertake this review with some reluctance - knowing full well the effort put in and the changes accepted by all of us at Qantas over the past 10 years.
"However, the facts are that oil prices staying at over $US140-plus a barrel has changed forever the way we do business."
Overnight, oil prices settled sharply lower falling $US4.14 to $US134.60 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The drop follows a $US6.44 sell-off Tuesday.
The two-day slide of $US10.58 a barrel marks a dramatic turnaround in crude prices, which as recently as Friday traded at record highs above $US147 a barrel.
But even with this week's sell-off, prices remain about 80 per cent above where they were a year ago.
Qantas and Jetstar's fuel bill will increase by more than $2 billion in 2008/09, representing around 35 per cent of the company's total expenditure.
Mr Dixon also wrote that he agreed with the comments of Emirates president Tim Clark, who said "this is the greatest crisis in aviation history" and that "the overall view of our industry is dire".
Mr Dixon went on to comment on the challenges of industrial action faced by Qantas.
"For Qantas the immediate issues facing the whole industry are being further exacerbated by the continuing industrial action by the ALAEA, the union representing 1,500 staff in Qantas Engineering.
"As you are acutely aware, this action is causing severe disruption to our network and services at a time when we can least afford it."
Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation executive chairman Peter Harbison said Mr Dixon's message suggested that the airline would focus more on its low cost offshoot Jetstar.
"I think the natural progression is to rely much more heavily on the lower cost-base Jetstar in this new environment."
Last month Qantas pruned about 100 staff and cut back capacity by five per cent - the equivalent of grounding six aircraft.
Virgin Blue has recently cut capacity by six per cent and announced a $50 million package of cost savings to help offset the effect of record jet fuel prices.
Virgin Blue is expected to unveil a second tranche of restructuring this week.
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teresa, GOD tried to sack his nephew some 2 years or so ago but was moved out of NSW at that stage. nephews mum intervened with a threat that GOD's activities (you know what i am talking about) would have him front page news for the next six months. nephew is safe until the day GOD goes....make it soon
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My co-workers were doing high fives this morning when we heard about the retrenchments. 2000? I reckon you'd get 5000 if they really wanted to.
On a sadder note, some of this might be true, as we found out today that QF res in Tucson will be closed by next February. Not a huge lot of people, but still sad for them, especially considering their economy at the moment, and also they are a nice bunch of people.
On a sadder note, some of this might be true, as we found out today that QF res in Tucson will be closed by next February. Not a huge lot of people, but still sad for them, especially considering their economy at the moment, and also they are a nice bunch of people.
Bottums Up
nephews mum intervened with a threat that GOD's activities (you know what i am talking about) would have him front page news for the next six months
Bottums Up
Thread Drift,
climbs onto high horse.
What gives a selfish me-centric youngster the right to demand older folks walk away just for their benefit?
cloudsurfng, why don't you lead by example and be one of the first to bail out, thus giving those younger than you a "go"?
Kicks soapbox away
climbs onto high horse.
Originally Posted by cloudsurfng
personally i would like to see all the greedy buggers who have stayed on past 60 be the first to go. You've had a good run and you are stuffing it for the younger guys and gals.......time to **** off.
cloudsurfng, why don't you lead by example and be one of the first to bail out, thus giving those younger than you a "go"?
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Virgin Blue is expected to unveil a second tranche of restructuring this week.
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Nephew?
So who is GD's nephew? And I know this going to sound really stupid, but what does GOD stand for? I know it obviously refers to Dixon but is that it. While we are at it, what does FOG stand for? Is it F$$k Off Geoff?
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Cut staff from where?
GOD should get out more and maybe take a walk through a terminal some time and just see how long it takes to check in a bag! passengers have to turn up 2 hours before a flight just to make sure their bag travels with them....
I agree with the earlier post Geoff should lead by example and resign, it is pretty obvious he only attended one class in management 101, how to make profits = sack staff... so by his reasoning if he sacks everyone he should make a killing... it will be sad to see Qantas go, if i was a share holder i would sell now
GOD should get out more and maybe take a walk through a terminal some time and just see how long it takes to check in a bag! passengers have to turn up 2 hours before a flight just to make sure their bag travels with them....
I agree with the earlier post Geoff should lead by example and resign, it is pretty obvious he only attended one class in management 101, how to make profits = sack staff... so by his reasoning if he sacks everyone he should make a killing... it will be sad to see Qantas go, if i was a share holder i would sell now
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From past experiences of QF "bloodletting" decent hard working people get shafted, buuuuut if you are a B#$ch and a dobber, or useless but a bullS$#t artist you'r safe, Believe me after neally 50 yrs in the airlines I have seen it all before, and I am so sorry for these good people.
Getting out was the best thing I ever did..........
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The pilots need a furlough plan like in the states then they can go and sew their wild oats overseas and be reassured of a job back home when times are good again.
Too lose 2000 over all i would suggest at least 1000 will probably volunteer and Jetstar could probably soak up the rest over time.
Too lose 2000 over all i would suggest at least 1000 will probably volunteer and Jetstar could probably soak up the rest over time.
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grasp more forsight & less foreskin
from the outset you would have to be a wombat not to recognise that people are amongst the top 3 items on both the balance sheet and P&L....that said however in a business that relies on "service" as the primary separation point, people are the critical success factor.
The paradox is that it's the 'people' who can facilitate the greatest cost savings AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, it is only through 'people' that the triggers to facilitate greater/incremental yeild during times of downturn are expedited.
I would bet an exclusive case of fine Macedon red that each and every QF person COULD, without any difficulty, identify logical, sensible and responsible cost savings that do not erode the critical service USP AND most importantly, still build business and yeild.
Sadly, one step above the operational level, the shoe box mentality becomes the myopic norm. Even sader still is the total absence of a leadership culture.
Together, these cumbersome overgeared isolated empires predicate the failure of any effort to empower those who ultimately create the revenue outcomes.
It's time to stop buggerising around over 2% with the LAME's et; al. and for all levels of Q, especially at the top, (and even some old school union stalwarts) to start grasping a little more foresight and a little less foreskin.
Interesting comment from a QF frequent flier (top 10) who was boarding an EK flight last week..... "the fish goes off from the head first"
PS: Saving idea #1 - cancel the self applause Virgin like bullsh#t Jetstar tv ads - claiming a Skytrax gong that really means nothing to the punter - just get back to core and start SELLING what Q does best.
here endeth the sermon
The paradox is that it's the 'people' who can facilitate the greatest cost savings AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, it is only through 'people' that the triggers to facilitate greater/incremental yeild during times of downturn are expedited.
I would bet an exclusive case of fine Macedon red that each and every QF person COULD, without any difficulty, identify logical, sensible and responsible cost savings that do not erode the critical service USP AND most importantly, still build business and yeild.
Sadly, one step above the operational level, the shoe box mentality becomes the myopic norm. Even sader still is the total absence of a leadership culture.
Together, these cumbersome overgeared isolated empires predicate the failure of any effort to empower those who ultimately create the revenue outcomes.
It's time to stop buggerising around over 2% with the LAME's et; al. and for all levels of Q, especially at the top, (and even some old school union stalwarts) to start grasping a little more foresight and a little less foreskin.
Interesting comment from a QF frequent flier (top 10) who was boarding an EK flight last week..... "the fish goes off from the head first"
PS: Saving idea #1 - cancel the self applause Virgin like bullsh#t Jetstar tv ads - claiming a Skytrax gong that really means nothing to the punter - just get back to core and start SELLING what Q does best.
here endeth the sermon