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Qantas used to have 33000 people working for it. Now it has 33000 people working against it !! Is it another ANSETT in the making?? Oh well, at least the the executives got the most out of it's carcass
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Well I guess Geoff is finding out what happens when you put shareholders first. Eventually the workers (who wouldn't have a job if it weren't for the shareholders of course) get jack of it all and start to work- or not work as it is in this case- in a manner that ensures that the shareholders are not being looked after at all. I wonder if through all this he'll realise the error of not putting effort into looking after your staff.
I bet we could get hold of the ANZ CEO for the same package as Geoff is on. I'd quite happily pay him that too!
I bet we could get hold of the ANZ CEO for the same package as Geoff is on. I'd quite happily pay him that too!
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I have to say... I have supported the Engineers and their cause but my life as a groundstaff person has been made HELL since all these interuptions have taken place.
Dealing with angry pax, delays etc... I really do understand your plight but please realise that our lives going to work each day are actually a living hell as a result of whats going on.
Im not angry at what your doing and i still say go for it, BUT, please atleast smile at and appreciate the groundstaff and what we are going through right now because we are on alot less money than yourselves and are getting hammered everyday by the pax that are being affected.
I hope you guys get something for it - fight hard and atleast the **** i get each day will be worth it for someone.
Dealing with angry pax, delays etc... I really do understand your plight but please realise that our lives going to work each day are actually a living hell as a result of whats going on.
Im not angry at what your doing and i still say go for it, BUT, please atleast smile at and appreciate the groundstaff and what we are going through right now because we are on alot less money than yourselves and are getting hammered everyday by the pax that are being affected.
I hope you guys get something for it - fight hard and atleast the **** i get each day will be worth it for someone.
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was talking to a red tie at the airport yesterday. they are collating all the meal vouchers, taxis, hotel charges etc for the mishandled pax, the managers are starting to freak out at the numbers, this has blown massive holes in budgets.
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LOL, I actually remember hearing that some "TOP" bloke belted James Strong in a lift
and thereafter stronggy always walked around with personal security.Where is that bloke and his talents now ???
For those of you out there not quite following me,I'm not referring to James Strong's talents either, lol.
Only kidding all.
According to my dictionary:
"Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself"
As an observer (and concerned QF shareholder), I wonder just how do GD and his colleagues get away with years of stuffing themselves from the QF trough whilst expecting staff to accept sub-inflationary increases from the same feeding bowl? And no, this isn't always the way - see the last sentence of Continental's announcement yesterday. Any chance of the QF board leading by example, I wonder?
GD's attitude to the QF staff seems to rival Michael O'Leary's disdain for his customers - both attitudes seem to have worked in the boom times, but are they sustainable in today's climate or is nemesis around the corner? The oft quoted argument that top management will simply up sticks and walk into a higher paid job with another airline if brakes are put on their own salaries is no longer credible in this time of cutbacks. Time to call the bluff?
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" Larry Kellner, Continental's chief executive said: 'The airline industry is in a crisis. Its business model doesn't work with the current price of fuel and the existing level of capacity in the marketplace.' The airline's fuel bill will be $2.3bn higher this year than in 2007, with ticket price rises not enough to offset the 75% rise in jet fuel costs, he said.
The airline plans to announce next week which routes are going to be cut back or axed.
Continental's senior management will forgo salaries and bonuses for the rest of the year."
"Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself"
As an observer (and concerned QF shareholder), I wonder just how do GD and his colleagues get away with years of stuffing themselves from the QF trough whilst expecting staff to accept sub-inflationary increases from the same feeding bowl? And no, this isn't always the way - see the last sentence of Continental's announcement yesterday. Any chance of the QF board leading by example, I wonder?
GD's attitude to the QF staff seems to rival Michael O'Leary's disdain for his customers - both attitudes seem to have worked in the boom times, but are they sustainable in today's climate or is nemesis around the corner? The oft quoted argument that top management will simply up sticks and walk into a higher paid job with another airline if brakes are put on their own salaries is no longer credible in this time of cutbacks. Time to call the bluff?
Quote:
" Larry Kellner, Continental's chief executive said: 'The airline industry is in a crisis. Its business model doesn't work with the current price of fuel and the existing level of capacity in the marketplace.' The airline's fuel bill will be $2.3bn higher this year than in 2007, with ticket price rises not enough to offset the 75% rise in jet fuel costs, he said.
The airline plans to announce next week which routes are going to be cut back or axed.
Continental's senior management will forgo salaries and bonuses for the rest of the year."
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Because so much routine work has been pushed back to get the must do jobs done it is building up big time.
You can only rob Peter to pay Paul for so long, all this work has to be done very soon and Tuesday could be crunch time.
I wonder if GD cares might suit him to have QF shutdown then he can just use Jet* to take over.
You can only rob Peter to pay Paul for so long, all this work has to be done very soon and Tuesday could be crunch time.
I wonder if GD cares might suit him to have QF shutdown then he can just use Jet* to take over.
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qfguy said;
Firstly qfguy, we ALL very, very much appreciate all the support from all of you guys and gals both on the ground and in the planes. We also realise the horrors you are enduring and I can assure you that just about all of us will support you in your time of need also ( some LAMEs deserve to be shot, sadly, and will never stop being self-centred)....although we would hope any increase of the 3% we achieve, when, not if, we do, will flow on to those who have supported us in these very trying times.
As for you earning way less than us........don't believe everything Geoff tells you about our wages......I wish we were paid what he claims, I personally am well under 100k, do 12 hour rotating days/nights and I've been here 15 years!!
Im not angry at what your doing and i still say go for it, BUT, please atleast smile at and appreciate the groundstaff and what we are going through right now because we are on alot less money than yourselves and are getting hammered everyday by the pax that are being affected.
As for you earning way less than us........don't believe everything Geoff tells you about our wages......I wish we were paid what he claims, I personally am well under 100k, do 12 hour rotating days/nights and I've been here 15 years!!
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Dixon's renowned contempt for his staff is finally coming home to roost. Nothing unifies people more than a common enemy, 30 000 Qantas staff want to see Dixon and his sycophants go down big time.
How many times has he taken the opportunity to denigrate staff, while sucking up to the shareholder (read board). If the new chairman has any idea at all he will sack the current executive management, and get new blood in before it's too late. None of the current staff will ever put in for this company again..not until Dixon is shown the door.
The engineers will win this one guaranteed...this management has no idea what a disengaged workforce can do. Geoff your strikebreakers will never get a guernsey, your staff aren't that stupid.
You're going to be done.....slowly...
How many times has he taken the opportunity to denigrate staff, while sucking up to the shareholder (read board). If the new chairman has any idea at all he will sack the current executive management, and get new blood in before it's too late. None of the current staff will ever put in for this company again..not until Dixon is shown the door.
The engineers will win this one guaranteed...this management has no idea what a disengaged workforce can do. Geoff your strikebreakers will never get a guernsey, your staff aren't that stupid.
You're going to be done.....slowly...
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Well Done To The Lames
You guys are the only group of employees who have had the moxy to stand up to Dixon.
It would be fantastic if your resolve expedited Dixons early Departure
It would be fantastic if your resolve expedited Dixons early Departure
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indamiddle said:
was talking to a red tie at the airport yesterday. they are collating all the meal vouchers, taxis, hotel charges etc for the mishandled pax, the managers are starting to freak out at the numbers, this has blown massive holes in budgets.
FOG
was talking to a red tie at the airport yesterday. they are collating all the meal vouchers, taxis, hotel charges etc for the mishandled pax, the managers are starting to freak out at the numbers, this has blown massive holes in budgets.
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So sad the emphasis put on the shareholder. Surely GD will one day wake up and realize there are 2 more very important stakeholders in this whole equation ,the staff and the customer.
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To GD the shareholder is more important than customers & employees
BECAUSE
He hold millions of shares & options, he is the only shareholder he is worried about.
BECAUSE
He hold millions of shares & options, he is the only shareholder he is worried about.
Jeeeez - numb nuts Kelty has been given an AC for his services to the union movement. If that isn't a contradiction! The little hypocrite. Keeerrrist!