Mega Merged: Latest Rex Media Releases re:Routes & the Pilot Shortage
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Mega Merged: Latest Rex Media Releases re:Routes & the Pilot Shortage
REX MEDIA RELEASE 06 May 2008
Rex Announces Network Changes
Regional Express (Rex)has today announced a number of network schedule changes as a result of the continuing pilot shortage. Rex will withdraw from the Cooma (Snowy Mountains) to Sydney route indefinitely, which had been planned to recommence from 6 June 2008, as well as reducing flying activities elsewhere in the network.
Rex General Manager, Network Strategy and Sales, Mr Warrick Lodge said,
“When we announced our decision to suspend the summer schedule for Cooma, we were counting on a lessening of the recruitment activities of the major carriers over the winter period to enable us to resume the Cooma service in winter. Unfortunately this was not to be and in the most recent month of April, Rex experienced 5% attrition in our pilot ranks, with the attrition rate in this FY tracking above 50%.”
“The continued high attrition rate means that our flight schedules remain vulnerable to last minute sickness of the flight crew. We believe that the responsible course of action is to reduce the flight schedule, which will provide us with more reserve pilots and in turn will translate into a reduction of last minute flight cancellations.”
Doh! Rule No 1 in aviation Mr L..............NEVER assume anything
Rex Announces Network Changes
Regional Express (Rex)has today announced a number of network schedule changes as a result of the continuing pilot shortage. Rex will withdraw from the Cooma (Snowy Mountains) to Sydney route indefinitely, which had been planned to recommence from 6 June 2008, as well as reducing flying activities elsewhere in the network.
Rex General Manager, Network Strategy and Sales, Mr Warrick Lodge said,
“When we announced our decision to suspend the summer schedule for Cooma, we were counting on a lessening of the recruitment activities of the major carriers over the winter period to enable us to resume the Cooma service in winter. Unfortunately this was not to be and in the most recent month of April, Rex experienced 5% attrition in our pilot ranks, with the attrition rate in this FY tracking above 50%.”
“The continued high attrition rate means that our flight schedules remain vulnerable to last minute sickness of the flight crew. We believe that the responsible course of action is to reduce the flight schedule, which will provide us with more reserve pilots and in turn will translate into a reduction of last minute flight cancellations.”
...we were counting on a lessening of the recruitment activities of the major carriers...
Doh! Rule No 1 in aviation Mr L..............NEVER assume anything
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Perhaps Qantaslink could pick up the slack and introduce a Sydney-Cooma-Mt. Hotham Skiers service.
Sorry, that was tongue-in-cheek
And still both companies sit on their hands re pilot attrition
Sorry, that was tongue-in-cheek
And still both companies sit on their hands re pilot attrition
farrari,
You don't understand the meaning of shortage in this sense. Rex does not have enough pilots because of a huge attrition rate which has the "Double Whammy" effect of meaning they need to train at high rates, whilst losing most of their experienced training staff.
They MAY have enough applicants who meet their minimum requirements, but no company can lose over 50% of it's pilots a year and not fell the pinch.
As to why they dropped Cooma, well, obviously if they have to cut services because they can't get enough pilots on line, they are going to drop their least profitable ones first.
You don't understand the meaning of shortage in this sense. Rex does not have enough pilots because of a huge attrition rate which has the "Double Whammy" effect of meaning they need to train at high rates, whilst losing most of their experienced training staff.
They MAY have enough applicants who meet their minimum requirements, but no company can lose over 50% of it's pilots a year and not fell the pinch.
As to why they dropped Cooma, well, obviously if they have to cut services because they can't get enough pilots on line, they are going to drop their least profitable ones first.
During winter Cooma makes money. Wiz' is on the money again.
Then there's Lismore, Merimbula, Albury, Orange, etc...... Not cancelled in their entireity yet, but have all suffered last minute cancellations and continue to do so. These routes are REX's core business, and they are under enormous stress. Weekends are a nightmare, as crews (who are only entitled to one weekend off per month) choose to spend time with their families rather than pay the tax man with REX's inadequate incentive payments.
And what about Brisbane? The REX CP recently assured a Brisbane based F/O (overdue for command) that come September services would resume and he could then expect a command without having to move a third time! fortunately he was able to see through that little piece of bullsh!t, and has now moved on to better patures.
REX are in serious, serious trouble. So are QFLink, but unlike REX they will Jump in (albeit belatedly) and pay their experienced pilots substantialy more to keep them. Once that happens (it has begun already), and QFLink are forced to seek out High time turbo-prop Captains for direct entry, then REX will lose the last of their commands to the opposition!
And as for Mr lodge's statement about hopeing the majors would slow down their recruitment. At a social function some time ago, a certain senior pilot commented to him that the appetite for pilots at the majors would continue for some years yet. As usual, REX management types do not consider the informed opinions of their senior staff as having any value.
Way to go Warrick!
Then there's Lismore, Merimbula, Albury, Orange, etc...... Not cancelled in their entireity yet, but have all suffered last minute cancellations and continue to do so. These routes are REX's core business, and they are under enormous stress. Weekends are a nightmare, as crews (who are only entitled to one weekend off per month) choose to spend time with their families rather than pay the tax man with REX's inadequate incentive payments.
And what about Brisbane? The REX CP recently assured a Brisbane based F/O (overdue for command) that come September services would resume and he could then expect a command without having to move a third time! fortunately he was able to see through that little piece of bullsh!t, and has now moved on to better patures.
REX are in serious, serious trouble. So are QFLink, but unlike REX they will Jump in (albeit belatedly) and pay their experienced pilots substantialy more to keep them. Once that happens (it has begun already), and QFLink are forced to seek out High time turbo-prop Captains for direct entry, then REX will lose the last of their commands to the opposition!
And as for Mr lodge's statement about hopeing the majors would slow down their recruitment. At a social function some time ago, a certain senior pilot commented to him that the appetite for pilots at the majors would continue for some years yet. As usual, REX management types do not consider the informed opinions of their senior staff as having any value.
Way to go Warrick!
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Well they need to get their s**t together - Out of curiosity I filled out an on-line application about two months ago and have heard nothing from them.
Got 10,000 hours, lots of experience on many things and in many places etc.
Why no call?
(I wasn't going to take the job unless it was a Brissy-based Captain, but I didn't even get asked)
Got 10,000 hours, lots of experience on many things and in many places etc.
Why no call?
(I wasn't going to take the job unless it was a Brissy-based Captain, but I didn't even get asked)
New Press Release
"A Really Unreliable source".............................
Rex have just announced they have sourced a solution to their short/long term crewing issues.
Quoting senior flight ops mangr Max Headroom "we realized that by removing the wings and placing a taxi sign on the roof of the SAAB crewing was no longer a problem,we also found flight duty times did not apply and nor was there any requirement for training crew,sim sessions,renewals etc".
Rex have also announced a new cadet scheme in conjunction with Taxi's Combined. Unfortunatly there is an English test..........if you pass ..you fail.
Thankfully the navigation tollerances once required can be ignored as the longer it takes the more money Rex makes.
Thank you and Goodnight
Rex have just announced they have sourced a solution to their short/long term crewing issues.
Quoting senior flight ops mangr Max Headroom "we realized that by removing the wings and placing a taxi sign on the roof of the SAAB crewing was no longer a problem,we also found flight duty times did not apply and nor was there any requirement for training crew,sim sessions,renewals etc".
Rex have also announced a new cadet scheme in conjunction with Taxi's Combined. Unfortunatly there is an English test..........if you pass ..you fail.
Thankfully the navigation tollerances once required can be ignored as the longer it takes the more money Rex makes.
Thank you and Goodnight
Just heard a promo for ABC radio in SA saying they will be discussing the pilot shortage and speaking to REX reps about it.
Also invited pilot's etc. to call up and have their say on why Rex and others are having difficulty attracting / retaining pilots.
Chance to perhaps put the pilot's perspective?
Ph. 1300 222 891
After 4pm SA time...
Also invited pilot's etc. to call up and have their say on why Rex and others are having difficulty attracting / retaining pilots.
Chance to perhaps put the pilot's perspective?
Ph. 1300 222 891
After 4pm SA time...
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It is interesting to read in this thread that pilots with more than enough hours who have applied to REX are getting no response. My best friend, who has over 2200TT with 1200 turbine, albeit S.E. Turbine, is still waiting for a reply... The application was made in January! I suppose because he is lacking in multi hours he is not worthy, especially when there will be "highly qualified" cadets with 200 hours coming through soon...
It would be interesting to see how many experienced applicants recieved no response...
REX you have made your bed, now quietly sleep in it.
oh and for the record he ended up on bigger and better birds anyway, so it all worked for the best!
It would be interesting to see how many experienced applicants recieved no response...
REX you have made your bed, now quietly sleep in it.
oh and for the record he ended up on bigger and better birds anyway, so it all worked for the best!
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"oh and for the record he ended up on bigger and better birds anyway, so it all worked for the best!"
I'd hazzard a guess world traveler, that's the reason "experienced" people are not getting a go. REX are well aware that they are uncompetitve when it comes to the retention of pilots, so they are not even bothering to try. And probably with good reason. Cadets and low time "captive" wannabes are the order of the day. They will save us!
"oh and for the record he ended up on bigger and better birds anyway, so it all worked for the best!
" I'd hazzard a guess world traveler, that's the reason "experienced" people are not getting a go. REX are well aware that they are uncompetitve when it comes to the retention of pilots, so they are not even bothering to try. And probably with good reason. Cadets and low time "captive" wannabes are the order of the day. They will save us!
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Unprofessional recruiting
Reading the last couple of posts and many others re experienced pilots not being contacted by Rex, is truly idiotic. Other than the obvious reasons, the people in recruitment are not the most efficient nor professional.
It is common courtesy (as I have experience in recruiting for an emergency service) to be contactable, approachable and provide feedback - no matter how busy you are. 1700 cadet applications are nothing when you consider ambulance and fire receive upwards of 4000 and manage to do it all in a timely manner.
Inefficiency is letting willing and experienced pilots fall by the wayside.
I am applying for the cadet program and can't even find out if they have read my application!!!
A friend of mine rang asking about the program and was abruptly told "if you apply now we won't look at your application for at least 5 months"!!!
Are they serious!!
What a joke!!!
Priority should be given to getting the experienced pilots moving into the system as they are cheaper to train and offer a more immediate solution.
It is common courtesy (as I have experience in recruiting for an emergency service) to be contactable, approachable and provide feedback - no matter how busy you are. 1700 cadet applications are nothing when you consider ambulance and fire receive upwards of 4000 and manage to do it all in a timely manner.
Inefficiency is letting willing and experienced pilots fall by the wayside.
I am applying for the cadet program and can't even find out if they have read my application!!!
A friend of mine rang asking about the program and was abruptly told "if you apply now we won't look at your application for at least 5 months"!!!
Are they serious!!
What a joke!!!
Priority should be given to getting the experienced pilots moving into the system as they are cheaper to train and offer a more immediate solution.
Priority should be given to getting the experienced pilots moving into the system as they are cheaper to train and offer a more immediate solution
What are you on about mate??? I hope that was tongue in cheek?
So paying peanuts to guys from South Africa IS THE ANSWER to their perceived shortage?????
Total rubbish I'm affraid.
YOU Aussies must all STAND up for yourselves and be COUNTED.
there are plenty of experienced guys/girls ALREADY IN OZ that can DO THE JOB very well.
QFlink just have to ACTUALLY RECRUIT THEM IN, then pay them properly.
Simple really.
Over to you Mr Frozzo....................incoming...........
A friend of mine rang asking about the program and was abruptly told "if you apply now we won't look at your application for at least 5 months"!!!
THEN in a few years they'll leave QFLink and go fly a jet anyway.
Back to square one again.
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This thread's about REX
ACMS..........
One of us seems to be missing the point here, and I think it's you.
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Post #20 re foreigners that think the sun shines out of '...QF's bum.'
Perhaps, but this thread's about REX.
One of us seems to be missing the point here, and I think it's you.
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QFlink just have to ACTUALLY RECRUIT THEM [pilots] IN, then pay them properly.
Perhaps, but this thread's about REX.
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ACMS -What I was "on about" were those pilots from Australia who are getting knocked back or not even the courtesy of a reply. I certainly did not mean pilots from overseas . An apparent mis-understanding
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Nor do I agree with 'outsourcing' to other countries ie DECs.
The reference to 'cheaperer training' was referring to the cost of training a pilot with more than a thousand hrs compared to a cadet. Surely it stands to reason that these types of pilots with experience would be checked and flying the SAAB 340s quicker and bolster the ranks of very junior pilots??
Plenty of people on these forums who are Australian pilots have said the same thing, not even a reply and are left wondering "if there really is a shortage".
Simply case is the people in recruitment/HR know that they don't have to reply, that they can leave phones off the hook, because they don't give a rats... they know that if I spit the dummy and withdraw my application, someone else will take my place.
. I certainly did not mean pilots from overseas . An apparent mis-understanding.Nor do I agree with 'outsourcing' to other countries ie DECs.
The reference to 'cheaperer training' was referring to the cost of training a pilot with more than a thousand hrs compared to a cadet. Surely it stands to reason that these types of pilots with experience would be checked and flying the SAAB 340s quicker and bolster the ranks of very junior pilots??
Plenty of people on these forums who are Australian pilots have said the same thing, not even a reply and are left wondering "if there really is a shortage".
Simply case is the people in recruitment/HR know that they don't have to reply, that they can leave phones off the hook, because they don't give a rats... they know that if I spit the dummy and withdraw my application, someone else will take my place.