NJS Pilots - 97% vote for Protected Industrial Action
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indeed our 'leader' !? - let us rise over the trenches and charge - blindly, faithfully towards the pot of gold you promise........but wait.....it is empty.....you haven't decided what it is you want to put in it yet !!!
PS - "someone" is one word, "anyone" would be a more appropriate description in regard to a question about whether this 'dispute' is based on substance or principle......if substance......I will repeat the numerous questions in this thread......"what is the substance"
PS - "someone" is one word, "anyone" would be a more appropriate description in regard to a question about whether this 'dispute' is based on substance or principle......if substance......I will repeat the numerous questions in this thread......"what is the substance"
I didn't specify who the idiot was, you are making an assumption.
As I have said, log onto the NJS site and all your questions will be answered. The problem is you would have to identify yourself, and I recognise why you wish not to do that.
I will repeat the numerous questions in this thread......"what is the substance"
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Kind of like "fixed home loans" .. The banks win the vast majority of the time.
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So, the $343 in my pocket every month as opposed to in CBA's coffers makes me worse off (plus because of their "wealth package" and type of client I am most the hidden fees were waived http://www.commbank.com.au/personal/...s/default.aspx )?
That $4116 a year extra that I have compared to Howard's (vote for me I'll keep interest rates low) battlers that makes me 'worse off' has me contemplating my imminent financial doom. Might pop out and buy a kilo of Moreton Bay bugs and a case of Cascade Premium and contemplate your sage advice.
Lucky me for your advice and the wizards at news.com.au and the Government Gazette (The Australian).
Bring on the 24th.
*whoop, whoop - "thread drift" - whoop, whoop - "thread drift"*
That $4116 a year extra that I have compared to Howard's (vote for me I'll keep interest rates low) battlers that makes me 'worse off' has me contemplating my imminent financial doom. Might pop out and buy a kilo of Moreton Bay bugs and a case of Cascade Premium and contemplate your sage advice.
Lucky me for your advice and the wizards at news.com.au and the Government Gazette (The Australian).
Bring on the 24th.
*whoop, whoop - "thread drift" - whoop, whoop - "thread drift"*
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Hockey may get to air powers
Andrew Burrell and Laura Tingle.
Workplace Relations Minister Joe Hockey could be asked to use controversial powers under Work Choices laws in a bid to halt a threatened QantasLink pilots strike that would cripple the nations's resources sector from as early as next week.Andrew Burrell and Laura Tingle.
In a move that could develop into a major issue late in the federal election campaign, about 70 pilots employed by National Jet Systems will decide by the middle of next week whether to begin industrial action against the charter operator.
The dispute centres on a long running bid by pilots to get a collective agreement after claims their Australian Workplace Agreements lowered their pay and conditions, and poses risks for both sides of politics.
The coalition would be able to claim the strike was a portent of things to come under a Labor government. Labor would be able to point to the claims of lower pay and conditions under the coalition's AWAs.
But the spector of a crippled resources sector could play in the hands of the coalition, which has been pushing industrial relations hard in Western Australia - where five seats are up for grabs - and has been heavily endorsing the role of the mining industry in the economy.
National Jet operates QantasLink services in WA, Queensland and the Northern Territory. It transports 70 per cent of WA's fly-in, fly-out mine workers in the Pilbara for companies including Rio Tinto, BHP Biliton, Woodside, Newcrest and Minara Resources.
Any strike would be legally sanctioned but if the pilots endorse the industrial action and give a required three days notice, mining companies could apply to terminate or suspend the bargaining period.
Another option mooted is to ask Mr Hockey to intervene under Work Choices provisions that allow him to require arbitration in disputes that have a negative impact on the national economy.
No such ministerial power exist under the ALP's planned industrial relations changes.
Australian Mines & Metals Association spokeman Chris Platt said the ministerial powers had never been exercised but would be justified given the impact a strike would have on the on resources industry.
Transport Workers Union organiser Rick Burton admitted yesterday Mr Hockey could "simply jump on the phone" and halt any planned industrial action.
He said a strike next week was possible even though his members had won the first round of the dispute after National Jet this week agreed to scrap AWAs in favour of a collective agreement.
He said the pilots were drawing up a non-union collective agreement to put to the company as early as today but "industrial action is still on the cards".
National Jet spokesman Phillip Smart said the company hoped to finalise the collective agreement and was confident there would be no industrial action.
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Would have thought that highlighting that workchoices(sic) has a mechanism that allows employee's to fight against an employer's wrongful implentation/application of the legislation would be very 'helpful' to the encumbent
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what a predicament....
Government powers to step in and stop a strike to protect the resource industry... bring a stop to an already legally sanctioned action!
In an enviroment where the media are reporting pilot shortages, you would think that there would be a perogative for trying to appease the pilots. Got to give it to them for sticking it out with the company and trying to work things out.
With all the jobs going elsewhere at the moment for pilots, with better terms and conditions, one would think it would simply be easier to take the old adage and vote with the feet idea. This would leave NJS in more of a predicament, with no pilots to fly thier planes, and then put the resource sector into more risk, with no-one to drive them to and from work!!!
One could argue therefore that to protect the resource sector, NJS should simply do what it can to resolve the situation.
And media wonders why there is an apparent pilot shortage...who wants to put up with that kind of crap........
Government powers to step in and stop a strike to protect the resource industry... bring a stop to an already legally sanctioned action!
In an enviroment where the media are reporting pilot shortages, you would think that there would be a perogative for trying to appease the pilots. Got to give it to them for sticking it out with the company and trying to work things out.
With all the jobs going elsewhere at the moment for pilots, with better terms and conditions, one would think it would simply be easier to take the old adage and vote with the feet idea. This would leave NJS in more of a predicament, with no pilots to fly thier planes, and then put the resource sector into more risk, with no-one to drive them to and from work!!!
One could argue therefore that to protect the resource sector, NJS should simply do what it can to resolve the situation.
And media wonders why there is an apparent pilot shortage...who wants to put up with that kind of crap........
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Proposed Jet* bases YPPH/YPDN
BLASTER
What is the CIA's strategy to retain the "B" scalers when recruiting commences for Jet* bases in YPPH/YPDN?
Word on the street is the training captains(the ones that stay) are preparing for a busy period.
What is the CIA's strategy to retain the "B" scalers when recruiting commences for Jet* bases in YPPH/YPDN?
Word on the street is the training captains(the ones that stay) are preparing for a busy period.
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Displaced G....how the f$#k would I know what the CIA strategy is....their heads are so far up their ar$e they couldn't find a strategy if it was painted on their di(ks. My understanding is they had an opportunity to resolve this months ago but thought it might offend their bonuses or their string pullers in the motherland so have continued to fight on using illogical principles and lazy management. That is why I chose to give em a way out for me & I admire the efforts of you guys is trying to achieve what you want.
.......if I get a Christmas card with the CIA summer season strategy pasted inside I will let you know !!!
.......if I get a Christmas card with the CIA summer season strategy pasted inside I will let you know !!!
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Try This
Footnote to above : I still strongly encourage the rest of you still flying with me in NJS to also call up the 'most' ? reasonable CIA manager you can find, ask to sit down with them, prepare what YOU want out of a renewed AWA and say that it THE ONLY terms under which you would sign.....you might be surprised
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My past experience indicated that a collective action will gives the greatest result in any dispute. NJS pilots should stick together and let the company have it for what it is coming to them. It is all about greed how much bonuses the management will be receiving if they can pull this through and suppress wage cost. One thing the management don't realise is that without the pilots their jobs wouldn't exsit. Look at a great example, REX, what sort of trouble are they having now. So people don't give in stick with what you want and go head to head with the selfish greedy management whom don't give an ass about you at all.
All the best NJS boys and gals! Be the force with you!
All the best NJS boys and gals! Be the force with you!
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Gangster, I think the CIA will be relying on no Captains wanting to go back to right seat for 2-3 years ( no DECs for guys with no 320 time and wrong coloured shirts ) and the FOs not wanting to pay 35K......I'm guessing
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3 Capt's gone in a month... the grass must be greener, the J* PH/DN bases will only make things more interesting... not to mention one of the Capt's off to Tiger, and probably taking a bunch of his mates with him!