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Old 25th Oct 2007, 13:36
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Good argument there Amos, so eloquently put.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 22:42
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Good on you guys and girls at NJS

May this be the start of making piloting in Australia a career to aspire towards....

I heard from a good mate in NJS that management will be sh!++ing their pants and will just 'come to the party' -- lets hope

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Old 26th Oct 2007, 00:42
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I was actually agreeing with you Claret...that the system is nonsence!
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 00:46
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What what is it you DO want !!??

Well done my colleagues for your unity. I am neither a new pilot or a member of The Wan#!ers Umbrella and not covered by the threatened action as I preferred to sit down and discuss what NJS needed for me to give THEM so they could give ME an AWA over 5 years to keep pace (outrun) the inevitable growth of CPI under the ALP (NOTE: that is not criiticism of the ALP but will be a fact).

So I understand the chestbeaters now have legal permission to go along with their rhetoric but what is it they want other than a TWU logo on their document - and what are they willing to give so they won't send their company under along the way ???????????????

No.....hang on......you are allowed to wear what you want instead of a uniform so why not just on strike AND wear your costume of choice (which I am sure will be a clown suit with a big red nose) so you can audition for your next job at the same time !!!

Seriously though - good luck in any case - I understand why you are doing what you are doing - just don't think you need to be doing it.
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I am off to "Penny's" fancy dress hire right now.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 01:10
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Dear Mr Blaster, with the greatest respect, the mere fact that you have to resort to the rhetoric you do, suggests that your argument is flaccid and without foundation.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 01:15
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Dear Mr Claret - with return respect, I did not think it was rhetoric but a simple question = "what do you want"
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 01:43
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I thought that was rather obvious, but I'll spell it out just for you...

M.O.N.E.Y
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 02:07
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Quote: The Wan#!ers Umbrella

You're such a 'wit' blaster!?
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 02:13
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Personally FF, I think you've got the assessment 1/2 right.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 02:22
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Clarification?

I know this has probably come up before but...What are the current NJS/QLINK conditions and what is being sought?
Please, rational informed comment only.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 07:04
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Come on 5DOGS, spill the beans, what have you heard in the hallowed halls?

AMOS2, since you did it twice I assume it is genuine ignorance versus a typo- it is NONSENSE not NONSENCE.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 07:21
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Thumbs up

Anos I knew you'd say something funny one day....

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I like it!


Shame about the nonsence though.......
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 08:53
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Well, well, well, I'm actually on your side re NJS and what you're trying to achieve, even tho your cause means nothing to me personally.

Might have to change my mind about that if you're going to act like pathetic, pedantic little G/A pricks!!

And I stand corrected, by the way.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 09:14
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Blaster,

what are they willing to give
What did YOU give?
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 10:02
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Those assets would possibly be purchased by a company that was interested in actually running an air service company. If the airframes were still flying (as they would be in the West as nothing viable to replace them at a similar cost structure) then the engineers, cabin crew and pilots would still find work.
Cobham never really wanted NJS/QL they wanted the surveillance work as it aligns with the Cobham group core business.
Whichever way this goes NJS will change hands in the next two years. Probably a good thing, to be owned by someone with air service experience. Cobham do not have this experience and have had the wool pulled over their eyes by an ego driven and very ambitious CEO who is using his FIRST management job as a springboard into bigger and better things.

http://www.cobham.co.uk
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 11:36
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Has it started???

Just got info that "due to unforeseen circumstances a 146 has been grounded (not my words, but from someone else) at Murrin and ... a replacement aircraft has been sourced"
No info as to why yet from my source.......
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 15:28
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Not a blacklist - just assessing people based on their previous actions.
What about managements previous actions???????
Everyone gets held to account at some stage for their actions and is judged on them.
So we should just sit back and let threats like those keep us from getting what we deserve??? lets just keep getting screwed.

Be it in a court for some things or in the opinion of others.
It's funny you mention fascism given your opposition to capitalism - there is a big difference between an economic and political system.
Isn't Capitalism based on supply and demand??? Big differents between the political sysyem and economics????? US needs more supply of oil, US invades Iraq, a pretty connected situation there.

A competitive market system that assesses it's potential employees is far from fascism.
So do you pay us more or not?
If you don't then why cant we exercise our rights under the political system to make the capitalist system work how it should.
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 15:46
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Deserve?? ha! That's what is wrong with your opinion. You don't DESERVE anything.
?????

Really. Got some figures on the import of Iraqi oil into the US on a percentage basis of total imports? How big were the US Oil reserves in 2003? What does war do to the price of oil - a little fact all the "It's a war for oil" forget. The best thing the US could have done for their imports would have been to become best mates with Iraq.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE US IS UNHAPPY ABOUT THE CURRENT PRICE OF OIL???????? they own alot more oil now than before 2003 don't they????

'm happy for you to exercise your right. Your right to quit and get another job. Isn't there a pilot shortage?

If any of the NJS pilots wanted to move up to QF or DJ I reckon they have just put a black mark on their resume.
Well if the NJ get what they want or what the think they DESERVE then they wont have to apply for QF or VB will they???
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Old 26th Oct 2007, 15:48
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That's for shareholders to judge.
and if only they new what was going on. Hang on I have an Idea, lets advertise it.
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